That’s loyalty thing rears it’s ugly head again .... Demar derozen

[#1 pick]

"But Pepperidge Farms ain't just gonna keep it to Pepperidge Farms' self, free of charge...."



But yeah...I been saying this for years. Loyalty is a fallacious ideology in team sports because it REALLY only goes one way - only the players are supposed to be loyal. For the owners, the front office and even to an extent some fans, loyalty is not applicable, apparently.

I am okay when the players move on. Al left Atlanta for Boston and that was fine with me. Loyalty in professional sports is dumb. You got a short shelve life, never take less than the max

 

[#1 pick]

no trade clause = loyalty

Not even Bron can get that from LA or Curry from GS. That's more expensive than a max contract to me.

 

[I AM WARHOL]

There's a clear double standard. Teams can always rely on the "its business" motto.

When players leave it's just all emotions.

 

[#1 pick]

zac greinke said it best


"it's obviously the No. 1 thing," Greinke said. "I could play for the worst team if they paid the most. ... If the last-place team offers $200 million and the first-place team offers $90 million, I'm going to go for the $200-million no matter what team it was." (

it's the best sport as cacs dont be on that stupid loyalty tip. LeVeon Bell is a prime example. Get cha money young man

 

[Rekkapryde]

Not even Bron can get that from LA or Curry from GS. That's more expensive than a max contract to me.

Bron could have EASILY gotten it if he wanted to.

If fukkin Melo can get it.

 

[hayesc0]

 

[010101]

he should be ecstatic

the squad he's on now has a real championship pedigree

fukking dinosaurs will never win shyte



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[Colejeezy]

derozan in his feelings turn down your hometown team couple years ago and now be in san antonio breh

 

[drifter]

Nearly every trade stems from the point of “well we were gonna keep you, but shyt happened.” I could say it, but shyt happened that changed that line of thinking. Now if I’m the Raptors I don’t say shyt, but if I don't say shyt, then it’s as if I’m saying to DeRozan to be ready for a trade.

It looks like we're both agreement in how Toronto mismanaged this, but I don't agree with they should've handled it. You can either say nothing or you can tell the player the truth and if it falls through you go back to the player say you decided in a different direction. I'm sure Derozan as a Toronto player and as a grown man would rather have transparency. End of the day it's all business but you at least have honesty and integrity with your players, it beats this



That's not a good look for a team that already had troubles in free agency.

And I saw your post in the other thread about if you're not 4 or 5 teams in the league to pack it up, the league has historically been carried by 4-5 teams at any given point. That changes with small markets drafting and developing stars that have a sense of loyalty and want to win in their tiny market, you used to be or still are a Wolves fan so this resonates with you.

Derozan actually chose to stay rather than play in the glamour market and is traded. I'm sure Lillard is second guessing his faithfulness to POR, Giannis is an upcoming unrestricted FA and MIL won't get over the hump to contention before it happens, Kawhi will do what he wants in due time, Towns is in a clownshoes show especially now that Butler has NY dreams.

With stories about Nike's involvement moving Durant to GS and their big plans with Bron now in LA, it's telling me these small markets are about to get start getting left in the dust. These shoe company already want nothing more than for all their clients to play in LA, NY, CHI, PHI now the players are looking at the business differently than the past.

 

[David_TheMan]

If a team says they won’t trade you and it’s not in writing in the contract, it’s hot air. It’s not a snake move. It’s business. They’re your employers not your parents

.Lying in a persons face is and will always be a snake move, especially a business partner. It says a lot about you that you dont see it that way. Ainge is cold blooded but he is honest he told smart this what im paying you if you dont like it go find something better. Heinke and Morey are straight shooters too

 

[FlimFlam]

On a tangent..

Outside of travel...potentially that... I can't see why that would be an issue as it's only 4 hours away from Detroit and 8 from Chicago...

why is toronto an undesirable sports location? Its easily better than most american cities by far...i dont get it

 

[tremonthustler1]

It looks like we're both agreement in how Toronto mismanaged this, but I don't agree with they should've handled it. You can either say nothing or you can tell the player the truth and if it falls through you go back to the player say you decided in a different direction. I'm sure Derozan as a Toronto player and as a grown man would rather have transparency. End of the day it's all business but you at least have honesty and integrity with your players, it beats this



That's not a good look for a team that already had troubles in free agency.

And I saw your post in the other thread about if you're not 4 or 5 teams in the league to pack it up, the league has historically been carried by 4-5 teams at any given point. That changes with small markets drafting and developing stars that have a sense of loyalty and want to win in their tiny market, you used to be or still are a Wolves fan so this resonates with you.

Derozan actually chose to stay rather than play in the glamour market and is traded. I'm sure Lillard is second guessing his faithfulness to POR, Giannis is an upcoming unrestricted FA and MIL won't get over the hump to contention before it happens, Kawhi will do what he wants in due time, Towns is in a clownshoes show especially now that Butler has NY dreams.

With stories about Nike's involvement moving Durant to GS and their big plans with Bron now in LA, it's telling me these small markets are about to get start getting left in the dust. These shoe company already want nothing more than for all their clients to play in LA, NY, CHI, now the players are looking at the business differently than the past.

I get what you’re saying but I also have an obligation as a team to better my situation. Let’s keep it 100. DeRozan tapped out of the Cleveland series. Everyone agreed Toronto had to do something drastic to change things. That meant DeRozan too. If it wasn’t him it woulda been Lowry who was loyal. It woulda been Ibaka who was loyal. That team to their credit has been together for a while, so the “loyalty” angle would have popped up no matter what.

NBA players for all the power they have are as delicate as butterflies. In football cuts happen. In baseball trades go down and it’s accepted. In basketball it always gets taken personally. From my experience I always looked at like this: everybody leaves. After a while you’re detached from the players that come through the team. I can do that because I was used to players leaving. Fans can’t subscribe to that and don’t wanna subscribe to that.

 

[drifter]

On a tangent..

Outside of travel...potentially that... I can't see why that would be an issue as it's only 4 hours away from Detroit and 8 from Chicago...

why is toronto an undesirable sports location? Its easily better than most american cities by far...i dont get it

More to do with it being in a different country and Americans not caring about anything except Murica.

I'd rather play in Toronto than NY or LA tbh

 

[tremonthustler1]

On a tangent..

Outside of travel...potentially that... I can't see why that would be an issue as it's only 4 hours away from Detroit and 8 from Chicago...

why is toronto an undesirable sports location? Its easily better than most american cities by far...i dont get it

Because it’s Canada and to most Americans Canada = Alaska but with French speaking people.

 

[Oldschooler]

Lol at Toronto being a small market team. They're a top 10 city in North America in terms of population. Have a huge multicultural population, safe, clean, influencing urban culture with drake, the weeknd, tory lanes, etc. Offer major incentives to movie companies to shoot in the city. Yes, you might get a week or two in the winter when it's extremely cold, but so do many of the larger eastern US cities.