That’s loyalty thing rears it’s ugly head again .... Demar derozen

[FlimFlam]

Because it’s Canada and to most Americans Canada = Alaska but with French speaking people.

Outside of them country isolated no name towns, pretty much everyone speaks english outside of fresh immigrants ...in my brief experience at least

 

[tremonthustler1]

Lol at Toronto being a small market team. They're a top 10 city in North America in terms of population. Have a huge multicultural population, safe, clean, influencing urban culture with drake, the weeknd, tory lanes, etc. Offer major incentives to movie companies to shoot in the city. Yes, you might get a week or two in the winter when it's extremely cold, but so do many of the larger eastern US cities.

Only a week or two?

 

[drifter]

I get what you’re saying but I also have an obligation as a team to better my situation. Let’s keeo it 100. DeRozan tapped out of the Cleveland series. Everyone agreed Toronto had to do something drastic to change things. That meant DeRozan too. If it wasn’t him it woulda been Lowry who was loyal. It woulda been Ibaka who was loyal. That team to their credit has been together for a while, so the “loyalty” angle would have popped up no matter what.

NBA players for all the power they have are as delicate as butterflies. In football cuts happen. In baseball trades go down and it’s accepted. In basketball it always gets taken personally. From my experience I always looked at like this: everybody leaves. After a while you’re detached from the players that come through the team. I can do that because I was used to players leaving. Fans can’t subscribe to that and don’t wanna subscribe to that.

I'm primarily talking from the player's pov btw, you do what you think is best if you're Toronto. I just don't agree with how it was handled if he's up for trade then tell him out the gate. The loyalty angle wouldn't be as prominent if Derozan hadn't been told the past 11 days he isn't going anywhere, Lowry & Ibaka weren't told the same and if they were it wasn't reported. That's the difference.

American fans are more loyal to faces than teams imo, and the loyalty narrative is pushed more in basketball than the other major sports I feel like. Probably because one singular player could be the difference between playoff ball and ping pong balls.

 

[drifter]

Lol at Toronto being a small market team. They're a top 10 city in North America in terms of population. Have a huge multicultural population, safe, clean, influencing urban culture with drake, the weeknd, tory lanes, etc. Offer major incentives to movie companies to shoot in the city. Yes, you might get a week or two in the winter when it's extremely cold, but so do many of the larger eastern US cities.

No one called Toronto a small market. If anything LeBron going to Toronto is bigger than LA/NY, you'd have a whole nation of fans eating out of your hands. Yet it still trails NY & LA.

 

[Oldschooler]

You don't tell your franchise player 2 weeks before they are being traded if nothing is concrete. You risk losing them mentally for the rest of their contract and end up with a kawhi situation if the trade falls through. Can we even confirm the rumors? Raptors have been very loyal to demar since the beginning, they gave him the keys to the organization when no one (including raptors fans) believed he would amount to anything. He would not have been who he is today had it not been for all the opportunities to fail that he's had.

 

[The God Poster]

If a team says they won’t trade you and it’s not in writing in the contract, it’s hot air. It’s not a snake move. It’s business. They’re your employers not your parents

It's bad business to lie to a current player tho. Gotta think about future players.

 

[IVS]

Its like Young Nino told Scotty: Always business; Never Personal...memba dat

 

[tremonthustler1]

It's bad business to lie to a current player tho. Gotta think about future players.

As I said I wouldn’t have said that to him or at least gone out of my way to say it. However DeRozan is fragile. No response might as well be “yeah we’re keeping our options open.”

 

[drifter]

If your best player comes to you and asks about trade potential, you don't even have to give a committed yes or no answer because things change, but you owe it to them to at least admit the possibility. If Derozan gets put off you still get your cap space so nothing's lost.

I can't imagine seeing it any other say so there's no need going back and forth over it, just gotta agree to disagree.

But one thing that's not up for argument is the player reaction and how they view it every time something like this happens, they're the ones that shape the NBA. Unless there's something in the CBA, we'll see what it all leads to soon enough.

 

[Armchair Militant]

They get taxed higher in Toronto and it's cold. I'm not surprised guys don't want to sign there.

 

[Big Blue]

This is why I hate it when people shyt on athletes for not signing with a team that they have tenure with.

 

[The God Poster]

As I said I wouldn’t have said that to him or at least gone out of my way to say it. However DeRozan is fragile. No response might as well be “yeah we’re keeping our options open.”

It's not just about Derozen . I'm sure a big time FA would prefer them to had said nothing than blatantly lie. This is twice in one off season they have flat out lied.

 

[Jesus Is Lord]

thought he was done losing to bron in the playoffs

The big picture

 

[CoCKy GeNiuS]

Derozan better be happy he is going to a coach that will continue making him LOOK like a all-star. Because after what I witnessed in the ECF the boy is fugazi.

 

[Miggs]

I'm primarily talking from the player's pov btw, you do what you think is best if you're Toronto. I just don't agree with how it was handled if he's up for trade then tell him out the gate. The loyalty angle wouldn't be as prominent if Derozan hadn't been told the past 11 days he isn't going anywhere, Lowry & Ibaka weren't told the same and if they were it wasn't reported. That's the difference.

American fans are more loyal to faces than teams imo, and the loyalty narrative is pushed more in basketball than the other major sports I feel like. Probably because one singular player could be the difference between playoff ball and ping pong balls.

Masai said in his exit interview the entire roster was available to be had.....DeRozan can write what he wants and be in his feelings but hes not an idiot,he and Lowry and everyone knew the organization is trying to break up the core...Theres no chance DeRozan or lowry is back after the current deals are up,why act surprised like this hasnt been the MO of the team since the playoffs ended...