That’s loyalty thing rears it’s ugly head again .... Demar derozen

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The most popular black man in AA culture is a Canadian though :jbhmm:

What does that have to do with anything?

International pop stars have always been a thing.

If you peel away the culture sharking and listen to Drake talk he is Canadian as hell.

Which isn’t a bad thing, cause I got mad Canadian people’s.

But it’s just different at the core.

I personally feel a lot of the shyt Pusha went at Drake for had a basis in a difference in culture growing up.

But I digress.
 
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I know Derozan is mad but why would the Raptors give him a heads up and risk the deal falling thru and now you are stuck with a player that’s unhappy you were thinking about trading him. That makes no sense. And Toronto is not exactly a free agent prime spot. They’re not hurting themselves at all. This is how teams operate.

Raptors have already taken care of Derozan and after 8-9 years they want to move on. I dont get the crying for Derozan.... I can think of other players that have been fukked over by teams. Derozan ain’t one. He’s in a better situation. Go ball out and prove them wrong
 

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I know Derozan is mad but why would the Raptors give him a heads up and risk the deal falling thru and now you are stuck with a player that’s unhappy you were thinking about trading him. That makes no sense. And Toronto is not exactly a free agent prime spot. They’re not hurting themselves at all. This is how teams operate.

Raptors have already taken care of Derozan and after 8-9 years they want to move on. I dont get the crying for Derozan.... I can think of other players that have been fukked over by teams. Derozan ain’t one. He’s in a better situation. Go ball out and prove them wrong

Because they lied to him?

If Lebron has told Cleveland he plans to resign and he wasn’t leaving in FA, told them he plans on retiring there, and then left them with no more contact until he signed a contract with LA...you wouldn’t think people would call that disloyal?

If Durant did that same shyt to his OKC teammates and told them he ain’t going anywhere but then zoomed off to the GSW...that’s not grimey
 

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Where / when did the Raps lie to Derozan? May have missed that in the thread

One of DeRozans is claiming during SL Raptor management told him he wouldnt be dealt....

So the official word is you cant change ur mind if a deal presents itself and Masai stating on TV that the entire roster was open for trade now didnt exist.


If DeRozan and Lowry are naive enough to believe they were safe and no deals were coming despite masai saying otherwise in his exit interview and the fact Casey was canned then thats on THEM :yeshrug:
 

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Because they lied to him?

If Lebron has told Cleveland he plans to resign and he wasn’t leaving in FA, told them he plans on retiring there, and then left them with no more contact until he signed a contract with LA...you wouldn’t think people would call that disloyal?

If Durant did that same shyt to his OKC teammates and told them he ain’t going anywhere but then zoomed off to the GSW...that’s not grimey


Im willing to wait and see what Masai says before going off of what one of Demars associates says...and his goofy ass social media messages dont mean shyt to nobody...
 

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I know Derozan is mad but why would the Raptors give him a heads up and risk the deal falling thru and now you are stuck with a player that’s unhappy you were thinking about trading him. That makes no sense. And Toronto is not exactly a free agent prime spot. They’re not hurting themselves at all. This is how teams operate.

Raptors have already taken care of Derozan and after 8-9 years they want to move on. I dont get the crying for Derozan.... I can think of other players that have been fukked over by teams. Derozan ain’t one. He’s in a better situation. Go ball out and prove them wrong
They didn’t have to say shyt to his ass. Why sit up there and lie in his face knowing a trade was coming
 
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Because they lied to him?

If Lebron has told Cleveland he plans to resign and he wasn’t leaving in FA, told them he plans on retiring there, and then left them with no more contact until he signed a contract with LA...you wouldn’t think people would call that disloyal?

If Durant did that same shyt to his OKC teammates and told them he ain’t going anywhere but then zoomed off to the GSW...that’s not grimey

Those are hypotheticals. I’m talking about this particular situation. And who the hell is Demar Derozan to KD and Bron?? They’re in completely diff echelons. Someone of their caliber demands different rules. And anyway Demar got his money and had his chances in the playoffs and came up very short. You want the team to continue to be happy with that b/c they don’t want to hurt his feelings and be loyal to him? What business works like that. You tell me.

Demar is a good player but if I can get Kawhi Leonard for him and possible resign him long term. I’m doing that any day of the week.
 
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They didn’t have to say shyt to his ass. Why sit up there and lie in his face knowing a trade was coming

Again, what if the trade fell thru and he remained with the Raptors? You’re going to ignore you star players request for an answer and expect him to be happy to be there next year? shyt happens, he needs to get over it. His situation is ideal
 

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Those are hypotheticals. I’m talking about this particular situation. And who the hell is Demar Derozan to KD and Bron?? They’re in completely diff echelons. Someone of their caliber demands different rules. And anyway Demar got his money and had his chances in the playoffs and came up very short. You want the team to continue to be happy with that b/c they don’t want to hurt his feelings and be loyal to him? What business works like that. You tell me.

Demar is a good player but if I can get Kawhi Leonard for him and possible resign him long term. I’m doing that any day of the week.

Who said be happy?

Lying to your teammates/associates and telling them you have every intention of staying with them, that you won’t be leaving, and that you’re with them through the long haul only to duck outta there to sign with another team...is that a hoe move or not?

Would your teammates respect a move like that? Or is telling them the truth, that you might be leaving and your exploring other options because you not sure if this is the direction you wanna go?

If a player did the equivalent of this to their teammates, he’d be called all kinds of shyt. Durant left in free agency and people blasted him for not discussing it with Westbrook but straight up lying to his teammates face would be way worse.
 

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Again, what if the trade fell thru and he remained with the Raptors? You’re going to ignore you star players request for an answer and expect him to be happy to be there next year? shyt happens, he needs to get over it. His situation is ideal

So you’re saying that everyone should lie and be fake while looking out for their own interests? Players should lie to their teammates too?
 

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they ignoring it because a lot of undercover cacs here have that mentality that athletes get paid a lot so they can be treated however :sas1:


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Because they lied to him?

If Lebron has told Cleveland he plans to resign and he wasn’t leaving in FA, told them he plans on retiring there, and then left them with no more contact until he signed a contract with LA...you wouldn’t think people would call that disloyal?

If Durant did that same shyt to his OKC teammates and told them he ain’t going anywhere but then zoomed off to the GSW...that’s not grimey

Exactly. Dudes gonna find a way to juelz their way outta this.
But if KD would do this shyt to the okc FO, this board and internet would be on fire.
 

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I don't think DeMar is pissed that he's going to SA, I think he's pissed that he's going anywhere period. He didn't take a shot at SA.
 
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Who said be happy?

Lying to your teammates/associates and telling them you have every intention of staying with them, that you won’t be leaving, and that you’re with them through the long haul only to duck outta there to sign with another team...is that a hoe move or not?

Would your teammates respect a move like that? Or is telling them the truth, that you might be leaving and your exploring other options because you not sure if this is the direction you wanna go?

If a player did the equivalent of this to their teammates, he’d be called all kinds of shyt. Durant left in free agency and people blasted him for not discussing it with Westbrook but straight up lying to his teammates face would be way worse.

Players and organizations are not the same. So why are you here comparing them as hypotheticals like they are apples to apples?
You’re missing the point by trying to make this a blanket comparison when it doesn’t have to be.

Raptors are not going to risk hurting a potential trade and their own franchise by giving a player a heads up. For all we know they may have been trying to keep him up until they signed the agreement. You call it lying but that’s called business. Like it or not. That’s my point.

So you’re saying that everyone should lie and be fake while looking out for their own interests? Players should lie to their teammates too?

I haven’t said any of these things that you’re saying I said.
 
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