The 2015 MLB Random Thoughts Thread

[HHR]

He should be easy to resign inf the Mets want to...I don't think there is going to be a big market, if one at all for Cespedes

No market for Cespedes?

He'll come close to $100M contract.

 

[HHR]

He'll be very difficult to resign, was just explained why in this thread

He has some weird language in his contract that will make it difficult on the Mets

All the language says is that the Mets can't make him a qualifying offer. Which means any team that signs him this off-season will NOT have to give up a draft pick to do so. This makes him more appealing and likely more expensive.

 

[Miggs]

I feel this Jays offense could put up 7 runs every night...that Tulo,Donaldson,Bautista,Encarnacion top 4

Teeing off on the royals bullpen

 

[3rdLetter]

The way Soto throws the ball back to the pitcher is kinda weird.

 

[Captain Crunch]

No market for Cespedes?

He'll come close to $100M contract.

Really?
He doesn't get on base or play a premium defensive position. I understand power is scarce, but whomever signs him is likely getting a .800 or so OPS. That's pretty good numbers for a center fielder or middle infielder, but for a LF that doesn't steal bases is

 

[The War Report]

No market for Cespedes?

He'll come close to $100M contract.

100 mil? :huhldup2:

 

[HHR]

100 mil? :huhldup2:

I don't see why he won't at least come close. $100M may be too high, bit he's 4 years younger, and has been healthier, than Cruz...who got 4/$58 this past off-season. I think he'll be the 3rd best OF on the market too, after Gordon and Upton.

 

[Regular_P]

Yeah........where are the receipts on this contractual anomaly?

You took @Regular_P word for it.

Right, wrong or indifferent.

All the language says is that the Mets can't make him a qualifying offer. Which means any team that signs him this off-season will NOT have to give up a draft pick to do so. This makes him more appealing and likely more expensive.

The Mets have a five day window after the World Series ends to negotiate a deal with Cespedes. After those five days, they have to outright release him and they cannot extend a qualifying offer (so no draft pick) and teams can't re-sign a player they released until May 15th.

Basically, there's no way in hell he's staying with the Mets unless they offer him something outrageous in those five days like 5/$125 million (and their owners are cheap as hell). No agent is going to let a player coming off the best season of his career (at least, up to this point) not hit the market and get the best offer available.

Detroit has a much better chance of signing him now than had they kept him.

Ken Rosenthal broke it down: Tigers might trade Cespedes ... to keep him?

Get this: If the Tigers want to re-sign left fielder Yoenis Cespedes, they might be better off trading him than keeping him.

Sounds counter-intuitive. It is counter-intuitive. But if the Tigers keep Cespedes, a unique clause in his contract effectively will close the Tigers'€™ negotiating window with him five days after the World Series is over.

Cespedes had leverage when he signed with a four-year, $36 million contract with the Athletics after leaving Cuba in Feb. 2012. His agent at the time, Adam Katz of the Wasserman Sports Group, used that leverage to gain the right for him to be released at the end of his deal (Cespedes is now represented by Roc Nation).

A team cannot extend a qualifying offer to a released player under the collective-bargaining agreement. Nor can it re-sign him as a free agent until after May 15 of the following year.

In other words, the Tigers hold exclusive negotiating rights with Cespedes only through the five-day window at the end of the World Series. After that, they would be at a disadvantage unless he was willing to sit out until May 15.

If, on the other hand, the Tigers traded Cespedes, they would lose the ability to negotiate with him for the rest of the season and through the exclusive negotiating window. But they would gain equal footing with other clubs in free agency, and could sign Cespedes without losing a draft pick.

Will any of this influence the Tigers'€™ decision on whether to move Cespedes? Perhaps not - the Tigers might not trade anyone, considering that they are only three games back in the wild-card race. Besides, Cespedes is telling friends he wants to re-sign with the club, regardless of the circumstances.

Still, Cespedes'€™ contract adds a fascinating wrinkle to an already complex decision. Normally teams damage their chances of retaining a player by trading him. This time, that is not necessarily the case.

 

[Brady-Carter]

That's 3 straight for the Jays..

I know you here our footsteps...

 

[3rdLetter]

I don't think that was a balk

 

[FaTaL]

No market for Cespedes?

He'll come close to $100M contract.

but theres always one dumb team out there

 

[Regular_P]

Really?
He doesn't get on base or play a premium defensive position. I understand power is scarce, but whomever signs him is likely getting a .800 or so OPS. That's pretty good numbers for a center fielder or middle infielder, but for a LF that doesn't steal bases is

100 mil? :huhldup2:

Uh, you guys forget that insane contract fukking Shin Soo Choo got a couple years ago? :smhkobe:

 

[Brady-Carter]

13 games against the Yanks still. @The War Report We are coming for you dudes..

 

[Regular_P]

Holy shyt @ that play by Robles. That's gotta be top five for the year.

Edit: Overreaction to him doing the splits as he threw a runner out.

 

[FloorGeneral]

Yeah, the key part of the Cespedes language is that he automatically gets released, so the team that he's with (and that "releases" him) can't re-sign him until May 15. So now, if (in this case the Mets) actually want to keep him, they're gonna have to come to an agreement between now, and 5 days after the World Series ends. Or he can sit out the first month+ of the season and wait til May 15th to sign back with the Mets, which is certainly not gonna happen.