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You're talkin about stats breh idc about regular season stats or 4000 yards passing or QBR this team aint shyt without Flacco
The thing is that this team does nothing well on offense, and that extends to joe too. They can't sustain drives, joe doesn't have much command at the line of scrimmage (we get a lot of delay of game penalties and false starts), he misses open guys all the time, races to his check down guy way too soon, overthrows on deep passes and underthrows on mid range passes all the time. He rarely extends plays with his legs, struggles with his progressions at times, and the team rarely tries play action passes so it's hard to even say at this point if he's good at it anymore. At this point he is what he is. He's at best an average quarterback. He's not going to elevate the play of the offense. If the rest of the team is bad, he's gonna look like one of the scrubs we used to trot out before drafting him.
 

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I was reading on the Ravens forum they said if we cut Doom,Webb,Pitta,and Suggs after the season we'd have 40 mill im cap space

I think we need to fire Harbaugh,cut those players and just let the new coach start fresh

Let him use the 40 mill and the draft to build the oline and bring in players who fit the new system

Its time to start over

agreed it's time for new leadership from top to bottom one thing people can't say the 2 main factors why the ravens are constantly losing close games are harbaugh and flacco
 
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Not gonna ask which of these guys you'd take over Joe but here's the notable QBs that have been drafted since him (might have missed 1 or 2)

Matt Stafford
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton
Colin Kapernick
Ryan Mallett
Tyrod Taylor
Andrew Luck
RG3
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiler
Russell Wilson
Nick Foles
Kirk Cousins
Ej Manuel
Geno Smith
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Jimmy Garopplo
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Dak Prescott


Ya Im good with Flacco, he aint the problem. Hope he retires a Raven
 

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Not gonna ask which of these guys you'd take over Joe but here's the notable QBs that have been drafted since him (might have missed 1 or 2)

Matt Stafford
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton
Colin Kapernick
Ryan Mallett
Tyrod Taylor
Andrew Luck
RG3
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiler
Russell Wilson
Nick Foles
Kurk Cousins
Ej Manuel
Geno Smith
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Jimmy Garopplo
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Dak Prescott


Ya Im good with Flacco, he aint the problem. Hope he retires a Raven
Cam, dalton, teddy, luck, and Carr. They're all better. The rest of that list is a disaster (I'll give Griffin a pass for how his team and staff got him hurt and then sabotaged him seemingly intentionally afterwards)
 
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teddy and dalton over joe? :scust:

carrs been great but dont overate him yet. you can have cam and luck who were both 1st overall picks

so ya, im good with flacco
 

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Not gonna ask which of these guys you'd take over Joe but here's the notable QBs that have been drafted since him (might have missed 1 or 2)

Matt Stafford
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton
Colin Kapernick
Ryan Mallett
Tyrod Taylor
Andrew Luck
RG3
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiler
Russell Wilson
Nick Foles
Kirk Cousins
Ej Manuel
Geno Smith
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Jimmy Garopplo
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Dak Prescott


Ya Im good with Flacco, he aint the problem. Hope he retires a Raven

agreed joe might not be a top 10 qb but he already prove you can win a superbowl with him
 

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agreed joe might not be a top 10 qb but he already prove you can win a superbowl with him
Look at his playoff numbers from 2008-2011 and in 2014 as well. 2012 was his one fluke run. To win one you'll need a great defense and a great running game too. We have neither of those anymore.
 

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Brehs we are stuck with Flacco regardless so its no point of even going back and forth about him

We just need new coaches and more talent

Flacco will improve when we give him a line again

Stanley and Yanda are good but we need 3 new starters at the other positions

I don't know who are the top online free agents this offseason but we need to go after them

Build the line through free agency and the defense and WRs in the draft

I think Eric Berry a free agent

Sign him and 2 olineman

Then draft a CB in round 1 pass rusher in the 2nd and WR & oline in the 3rd

Fire Harbaugh and find a good college coach with a good offensive system...i don't want any of the shytty coaches in the nfl that keep getting rehired
 

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Brehs we are stuck with Flacco regardless so its no point of even going back and forth about him

We just need new coaches and more talent

Flacco will improve when we give him a line again

Stanley and Yanda are good but we need 3 new starters at the other positions

I don't know who are the top online free agents this offseason but we need to go after them

Build the line through free agency and the defense and WRs in the draft

I think Eric Berry a free agent

Sign him and 2 olineman

Then draft a CB in round 1 pass rusher in the 2nd and WR & oline in the 3rd

Fire Harbaugh and find a good college coach with a good offensive system...i don't want any of the shytty coaches in the nfl that keep getting rehired


right now daivid shaw or kyle shanahann are the perfect men for the ravens job there schemes fit joe to a tee
 

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I read if we got rid of Flacco after next season it's a 28 mill cap hit(its 24 if we keep him)

That's only a 4 mill difference

That's good news because I thought we were stuck with him at least 2 or 3 more seasons but it might only be 1

I think we should trade him after next season

If Sam Bradford can command a 1st round pick we should be able to get one for Flacco too

Probably could get more than a 1st if we find a team desperate enough
 
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