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You're talkin about stats breh idc about regular season stats or 4000 yards passing or QBR this team aint shyt without Flacco
The thing is that this team does nothing well on offense, and that extends to joe too. They can't sustain drives, joe doesn't have much command at the line of scrimmage (we get a lot of delay of game penalties and false starts), he misses open guys all the time, races to his check down guy way too soon, overthrows on deep passes and underthrows on mid range passes all the time. He rarely extends plays with his legs, struggles with his progressions at times, and the team rarely tries play action passes so it's hard to even say at this point if he's good at it anymore. At this point he is what he is. He's at best an average quarterback. He's not going to elevate the play of the offense. If the rest of the team is bad, he's gonna look like one of the scrubs we used to trot out before drafting him.You're talkin about stats breh idc about regular season stats or 4000 yards passing or QBR this team aint shyt without Flacco
I was reading on the Ravens forum they said if we cut Doom,Webb,Pitta,and Suggs after the season we'd have 40 mill im cap space
I think we need to fire Harbaugh,cut those players and just let the new coach start fresh
Let him use the 40 mill and the draft to build the oline and bring in players who fit the new system
Its time to start over
Cam, dalton, teddy, luck, and Carr. They're all better. The rest of that list is a disaster (I'll give Griffin a pass for how his team and staff got him hurt and then sabotaged him seemingly intentionally afterwards)Not gonna ask which of these guys you'd take over Joe but here's the notable QBs that have been drafted since him (might have missed 1 or 2)
Matt Stafford
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton
Colin Kapernick
Ryan Mallett
Tyrod Taylor
Andrew Luck
RG3
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiler
Russell Wilson
Nick Foles
Kurk Cousins
Ej Manuel
Geno Smith
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Jimmy Garopplo
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Dak Prescott
Ya Im good with Flacco, he aint the problem. Hope he retires a Raven

Not gonna ask which of these guys you'd take over Joe but here's the notable QBs that have been drafted since him (might have missed 1 or 2)
Matt Stafford
Josh Freeman
Sam Bradford
Tim Tebow
Jimmy Clausen
Colt McCoy
Cam Newton
Jake Locker
Blaine Gabbert
Christian Ponder
Andy Dalton
Colin Kapernick
Ryan Mallett
Tyrod Taylor
Andrew Luck
RG3
Ryan Tannehill
Brandon Weeden
Brock Osweiler
Russell Wilson
Nick Foles
Kirk Cousins
Ej Manuel
Geno Smith
Blake Bortles
Johnny Manziel
Teddy Bridgewater
Derek Carr
Jimmy Garopplo
Jameis Winston
Marcus Mariota
Jared Goff
Carson Wentz
Dak Prescott
Ya Im good with Flacco, he aint the problem. Hope he retires a Raven
Look at his playoff numbers from 2008-2011 and in 2014 as well. 2012 was his one fluke run. To win one you'll need a great defense and a great running game too. We have neither of those anymore.agreed joe might not be a top 10 qb but he already prove you can win a superbowl with him
Brehs we are stuck with Flacco regardless so its no point of even going back and forth about him
We just need new coaches and more talent
Flacco will improve when we give him a line again
Stanley and Yanda are good but we need 3 new starters at the other positions
I don't know who are the top online free agents this offseason but we need to go after them
Build the line through free agency and the defense and WRs in the draft
I think Eric Berry a free agent
Sign him and 2 olineman
Then draft a CB in round 1 pass rusher in the 2nd and WR & oline in the 3rd
Fire Harbaugh and find a good college coach with a good offensive system...i don't want any of the shytty coaches in the nfl that keep getting rehired
Kyle shanahan? You're joking right?right now daivid shaw or kyle shanahann are the perfect men for the ravens job there schemes fit joe to a tee
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