The 3-Day Return to Office Is, So Far, a Dud

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I'm currently a software developer intern at a company ( in NYC ) , which allows you to be fully remote and never go in.

They seem to have employees from all over the world like Mexico , UK , Canada and Vietnam.

I would still go 3 times a week (mon,tues,wed) just for the experience and to learn better.
 
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LOL @ companies being scared to mandate working in the office

If every company mandates working in the office where are the workers who threaten to quit going to go to? Lol
this double down clearly hasn't worked

companies ready to drop the traditional stuff are able to poach skilled employees, for less money, and save on office costs :dead: i can't imagine a better time to push a start up
 

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I said it before, if my company starts pushing the office I'm leaving unless they give me some insane increase in yearly monetary salary - that'll be higher than whoever I recently get a job offer from.



Idiots losing all their top talent, to their competitors.

There is no sense mixing up people who prefer to be in-office with people who prefer to be remote.

Best option: have your desks and workspaces at your office be first-come, first-serve. If you want to come in that day then fine, but if not then fine.

I'm not going in though.



I wonder if this will change with the recession. I'm pondering a career move but my company is recession proof and I got a good job. I don't mind coming into the office a few times a week either. But I wanna capitalize on this competitive labor market cuz these 5% merit increases aint what's up
 

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Btw.. I just started at a new company. I did it for pay but mainly for other reasons outside of that as well…

Mainly to learn more and try to increase my value

Regardless, they’re rolling back on remote work. Even though I’ve been working remotely mostly since I started, this shyt aint it as far as coming into the office.

I literally have to wakeup at 330, just to be gone by 430 so I can be at work before 530…

Main reason why… TRAFFIC and PARKING. You literally have to park almost a mile away just to find a decent spot if you come in after 6.

I’m a disabled vet too.. not out of shape but leg issues was the reason why I got out. The main if not only reason. So the position I’m they’re putting me in literally is not work from home.. yet there are others that do it (mainly because of the shyt I have to do).

I’m already not feeling this part of the job. Plus, it’s no longer shift work. If it was shift, It would be easier imo. Nope, here doing the same rat race shyt again. I’m goving this about another month I think. If shyt doesn’t improve, I might even go back to the old gig because at least it was shift and at least I was able to miss the traffic and parking bullshyt I ran into before
 

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I wonder if this will change with the recession. I'm pondering a career move but my company is recession proof and I got a good job. I don't mind coming into the office a few times a week either. But I wanna capitalize on this competitive labor market cuz these 5% merit increases aint what's up
I wouldn’t be making that switch now. First one in , first one out.
 

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Gov job here, unions pushed back hard enough to get hybrid for 3 days in 2 days remote til July 2023, then I expect it to be gone or 4 days in 1 remote at the max...

They even made the Web team come back in even though they can literally work anywhere in the world and be effective.

Then we had to sign a remote work from home agreement with a valid address on file to ensure we are there and to dress in a professional manner for virtual meetings....

Companies in general are clamping down due to WFH abuse (going shopping, sleeping, vacation traveling, etc)....

Party is over come this next recession...
 

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I will say this again

If the workforce was as easily replaceable at the drop of a hat as the press and employers would have you think you would already be gone

why isn't your job currently being done by someone in another country at a 1/3 of the price?
 

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I will say this again

If the workforce was as easily replaceable at the drop of a hat as the press and employers would have you think you would already be gone

why isn't your job currently being done by someone in another country at a 1/3 of the price?
It's mainly because the majority of these outsourcing company employees suck. And they're having even worse issues retaining talent.

I was close to losing my job at my old company. But the crew they hired over in India kept breaking shyt. Forcing us to drop everything and help them fix things each time. They tried everything including paying to send them off for extra training. But no matter what they did you couldn't trust these guys to not cause some catastrophic failure once a quarter. Forcing us to jump on a zoom call and try to undue what they did.

At my current job we spend half our time babysitting them. And reviewing their work for accuracy. Upper Management keeps coming up with different ideas to make them more self-sufficient. But doesn't understand for one half the problem is cultural. I've seen it at way too many companies outsourcing work to India. And it's been the same issues at each one of them.
 

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It's mainly because the majority of these outsourcing company employees suck. And they're having even worse issues retaining talent.

I was close to losing my job at my old company. But the crew they hired over in India kept breaking shyt. Forcing us to drop everything and help them fix things each time. They tried everything including paying to send them off for extra training. But no matter what they did you couldn't trust these guys to not cause some catastrophic failure once a quarter. Forcing us to jump on a zoom call and try to undue what they did.

At my current job we spend half our time babysitting them. And reviewing their work for accuracy. Upper Management keeps coming up with different ideas to make them more self-sufficient. But doesn't understand for one half the problem is cultural. I've seen it at way too many companies outsourcing work to India. And it's been the same issues at each one of them.

These companies gon cut "payroll costs" and see a tsunami of other business related costs
 

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A lot of engineers in big tech don’t want to go back into the office because they picked up a second job during Covid.

And even if you have nobody watching over your shoulder maintaining a second job is near impossible in the office. But it’s trivial at home.
 

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It's mainly because the majority of these outsourcing company employees suck. And they're having even worse issues retaining talent.

I was close to losing my job at my old company. But the crew they hired over in India kept breaking shyt. Forcing us to drop everything and help them fix things each time. They tried everything including paying to send them off for extra training. But no matter what they did you couldn't trust these guys to not cause some catastrophic failure once a quarter. Forcing us to jump on a zoom call and try to undue what they did.

At my current job we spend half our time babysitting them. And reviewing their work for accuracy. Upper Management keeps coming up with different ideas to make them more self-sufficient. But doesn't understand for one half the problem is cultural. I've seen it at way too many companies outsourcing work to India. And it's been the same issues at each one of them.
That’s the direction of almost all companies unfortunately. And I get it…

1. They are cheap. Dirt cheap.
2. There is an abundance of them.
3. They typically have no career trajectory. So bonuses and promos are out of the picture.
4. The IST workday is US after hours. Important for production maintenance windows.


But then you have to be careful because…

9 out of 10 are frauds. They lie and cheat on literally everything. Resumes, exams, interviews…they have mastered cheating.

I hate saying shyt like that because it feels racist. But the only way you can properly vet Indians is with other Indians. You should hear some of the shyt I’ve heard about Indians from others Indians….they are shiesty as fukk
 

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That’s the direction of almost all companies unfortunately. And I get it…

1. They are cheap. Dirt cheap.
2. There is an abundance of them.
3. They typically have no career trajectory. So bonuses and promos are out of the picture.
4. The IST workday is US after hours. Important for production maintenance windows.


But then you have to be careful because…

9 out of 10 are frauds. They lie and cheat on literally everything. Resumes, exams, interviews…they have mastered cheating.

I hate saying shyt like that because it feels racist. But the only way you can properly vet Indians is with other Indians. You should hear some of the shyt I’ve heard about Indians from others Indians….they are shiesty as fukk

They are awful at all levels, googled answers, poor english, and crappy software with a majority being dishonest...
 
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