I think a lot of kids today don't even know what people playing live music looks like. SAD
The absence of Funk's influence is a big reason for the disconnect between old and new Hip Hop.
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Ardamus
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I agree with letting them youngins be themselves but that shouldn't warrant dissing the generations before them and vice versa. Plus, I don't think it hurts to learn from the generations before in order to develop in the present. Constructive criticism and disrespect are different lanes of citing what you dislike.
And the whole thing with the 70s and 80s heads being mad at the heads in the 90s and 2000s, I mean, I get it because from the times before...times were different as well as the feel of the music. So I think naturally, there will be some push back. However, all generations could learn from one another if all parties are willing to understand.
And the whole thing with the 70s and 80s heads being mad at the heads in the 90s and 2000s, I mean, I get it because from the times before...times were different as well as the feel of the music. So I think naturally, there will be some push back. However, all generations could learn from one another if all parties are willing to understand.
Music now days is computer generated no soul no feeling. i think times have changed and we lost a good part of our history. you can listen to instrumentals but if you dont have that live sound the music is going to be different.
i love the old soul music but if you try to blend it in to this new sound you better come correct cuz the feel is not the same.
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i love the old soul music but if you try to blend it in to this new sound you better come correct cuz the feel is not the same.
http://yibster.com/
Biz markie suffered the worst, he had to remove his album off the shelf because of a sample. I had that tape, and lost it!
Ardamus
Unpopular Opinions About Battle Rap
Biz markie suffered the worst, he had to remove his album off the shelf because of a sample. I had that tape, and lost it!
Yep. That's why I am not mad at these royalty free sites. At least they're trying to help out those who want to sample. I feel like clearing samples got so screwed up. Its obvious that these judges and lawyers who just looked at copyright infringement didn't know as much about the actual art of sampling except for the fact they saw it was a way of not trying to play an instrument. 9 times out of 10, they're white and didn't get that hip hop's beginnings came from the DJ bringing back a break beat because, those kids could not afford music lessons.
And now, we even have tracklib.com trying to help out the process. From one person in particular or two who had to deal with sample clearance issues before.
the lack of swing in the beat, and melodies, is why music sounds so stiff now.
I didn't even think about it, until you posted this video!
When you add swing to the music it gives the music a more real feel.
Its the equivalent of dancing between blacks, and whites. When we dance it isn't exactly in & out, it has a smoothness to it. When a lot of whites dance, they try to catch the beat exactly. Its like this joke Dave chappelle had on his show. The white guy is counting his steps in his head, instead of grooving to the beat. I wish I can find that skit on his show, but it was funny as shyt!
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I'm sayin, dudes really they're making a compelling argument by saying "funk is everything/nothing"
I hate to break up this dap-fest, but its not that serious.
not saying that I disagree with alot of stuff thats being said, but the problem is not the beats at all. this is one of the best eras for hip-hop beats.
the real disconnect stems from there being a bunch of rappers who cant rap AT ALL. and the fact that this bullchit has been purposely pushed for the past 15 years now.
that and kids today growing up on a music that was already raped, pillaged & overly-commercialized before a lot of their parents lost their virginity.
but nobody ever wants to address the REAL issues behind-the-curtain, that have been prominent for about two decades now.
with that said, ive always felt a disconnect with half or most people my age & younger. and I'm 32.
good points.
not saying that I disagree with alot of stuff thats being said, but the problem is not the beats at all. this is one of the best eras for hip-hop beats.
the real disconnect stems from there being a bunch of rappers who cant rap AT ALL. and the fact that this bullchit has been purposely pushed for the past 15 years now.
that and kids today growing up on a music that was already raped, pillaged & overly-commercialized before a lot of their parents lost their virginity.
but nobody ever wants to address the REAL issues behind-the-curtain, that have been prominent for about two decades now.
with that said, ive always felt a disconnect with half or most people my age & younger. and I'm 32.
the lack of swing in the beat, and melodies, is why music sounds so stiff now.
I didn't even think about it, until you posted this video!
When you add swing to the music it gives the music a more real feel.
Its the equivalent of dancing between blacks, and whites. When we dance it isn't exactly in & out, it has a smoothness to it. When a lot of whites dance, they try to catch the beat exactly. Its like this joke Dave chappelle had on his show. The white guy is counting his steps in his head, instead of grooving to the beat. I wish I can find that skit on his show, but it was funny as shyt!
good points.
wait.
so this thread is about soundcloud rappers that aren't even known for rapping in their own neighborhoods??.....most of them from the suburbs???
I never hear young buls offline playing or listening to 80% of the rappers that are hot-topics on here.
all that tekashi and xxxtenacion chit. that travis scott guy, none of that bullchit.
This part is so true. I seen my cousins kids the other day, and they into Jake and Logan Paul musicbasically they cacs with black skin at this point. And this is probably true for a lot of other aa kids growing up today
who is Jake and logan paul?
This plays a big part in it... I've seen people surprised for whatever reason that I know as much music as I do. But growing up, shyt I listened to was pretty diverse. I was a little kid in the '80s, and even the 'urban' radio stations played a wide range of shyt. Now, you can turn on the 'urban' station and hear about 15 trap shyts back to back. Back then, they were playing R&B that ranged from the Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis sound to the Teddy Riley New Jack sound to the smooth Anita Baker/Luther type stuff in a matter of minutes.. and in addition to that, you could hear freestyle music, hip-hop, reggae, go-go, even some pop records. So it wasn't strange (at least for me) to know about Janet Jackson, Keith Sweat, Big Daddy Kane... but ALSO about 'Silent Morning' by Noel, 'Telephone Love' by JC Lodge, 'Father Figure' by George Michael, etc., etc... and then, I also listened to the pop station which had me on to all the pop music, and also rock and even a country song or two. The stations were pretty diverse back then, you could listen to two stations and get a super-wide range of shyt. This probably kept on until the very early-90s, when stations started becoming more separated- black radio pretty much became all R&B and hip-hop, pop stations became all pop music, etc... and it kept shrinking and shrinking thru the '90s. The '90s was more "my era", but I still feel like no decade was more diverse than the 80s as a listener. There weren't just so many different genres, but you could hear them all at the same time in the same place. One of the things that limit so much popular music today (and make DJing pretty boring at times) is that most people now just want that one thing and it's hard to deviate at all from that one thing. And so that also spills over into what the artists are making.
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Those old groups who thought and knew their drawing days were still existing when they were not. I bet they are all feeling it and will feel it more in the future. As they have to accept the reality their actual music contribution is dead because of their fukk'n wack outdated greed.
All those old groups who needed hiphop to rejuvenate them In The market place. I bet they are hoping something comes along to help their draw get rejuvenated. Yet they were completely against and demonstrative to the actual culture and its music.
that would have kept them relevent and in the market place. Well and away after their draw was dead.
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