But then again, people hate on TPAB for its funk influences.. honestly, I loved the album and I would like to hear more funk influence in today’s hip hop.
The absence of Funk's influence is a big reason for the disconnect between old and new Hip Hop.
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Another thing.
Hip hop was born out of a specific set of circumstances in NY in the 70s.
It developed across the country through the 80s and early 90s due to circumstances in those other places.
Those circumstances have all changed dramatically. The world has. Time moves on. Things change. Nothing lasts forever.
What is marketed as hip hop now, isn’t really hip hop As we understood it in the 90s (which of course was different from what was going on in NY in the 70s).
Hip hop was born out of a specific set of circumstances in NY in the 70s.
It developed across the country through the 80s and early 90s due to circumstances in those other places.
Those circumstances have all changed dramatically. The world has. Time moves on. Things change. Nothing lasts forever.
What is marketed as hip hop now, isn’t really hip hop As we understood it in the 90s (which of course was different from what was going on in NY in the 70s).
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
What an amazing clip featuring The Godfather and his classics.
Backed by Letterman's band which had some of NYC's top recording session gunslingers.
This is what its all about.
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I'm brazilian and it's funny how the rap game NOWADAYS here is way superior than the U.S.A. rap game lol
I listen to yall americans negros cuz to us it's funny AF to see them videoclips. Lol at a bunch of knew groes with giant ass egos dressing suspect/funny lol and mumbling like crazy looool
Even tho I've show that whiteboi jakepaul videoclip (everyday bro) with lyrics to my n!ggas and they got mad AF cuz of a whiteboy talking all that crap lol
I listen to yall americans negros cuz to us it's funny AF to see them videoclips. Lol at a bunch of knew groes with giant ass egos dressing suspect/funny lol and mumbling like crazy looool
Even tho I've show that whiteboi jakepaul videoclip (everyday bro) with lyrics to my n!ggas and they got mad AF cuz of a whiteboy talking all that crap lol
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
This plays a big part in it... I've seen people surprised for whatever reason that I know as much music as I do. But growing up, shyt I listened to was pretty diverse. I was a little kid in the '80s, and even the 'urban' radio stations played a wide range of shyt. Now, you can turn on the 'urban' station and hear about 15 trap shyts back to back. Back then, they were playing R&B that ranged from the Jimmy Jam/Terry Lewis sound to the Teddy Riley New Jack sound to the smooth Anita Baker/Luther type stuff in a matter of minutes
Those of us who were musically-aware little kids in the 80s benefitted from probably being the last generation to experience radio, mobile deejays, and clubs that played diverse music for audiences.
Nowadays, you either have an abundance of music styles without any filtering (YouTube), or you have playlisted music for narrow audiences (commercial radio, mixtapes, podcasts, Spotify, iTunes).
In the early 80s, you could go to a party or jam and hear the deejay cut up "Never Too Much" by Luther Vandross, and then an emcee would jump on for a few bars. The deejay and the emcee were listening all day to radio stations that would play Luther, Cameo, The Bar-Kays, Chuck Brown, Steve Arrington, Janet, Secret Weapon, Fonda Rae, The Fat Boys, Shelly Thunder, Herbie Hancock, etc.
And even the "black" stations separated in the 1990s.
The 1990s "Hip Hop" stations were really white-programmed, commercial rap stations. They took all of the soul and innovation out Hip Hop that came from the deejaying of the b-boy era ("Hot this" or "Power that" ignored the break beats, or the groove-tunes like "Love Is The Message," "Good Times" "I Want To Thank You" "Set It Off").
And the 1990s black owned or programmed "urban" radio stations removed the funky rhythmic music, and went more in an all-day Quiet Storm direction. They lost the younger listenership to the white-programmed rap stations, BET and MTV.
and too add, it's funny how it's normal to be egocentrical in USA. In the hood here you get shot you stay too much time "I do this I do that" cuz simply nobody likes egocentrical nyggas here.
and also our tupac (sabotage) was all about humulity and he's like the jesus of rap here and even after more than a decade since his dead (similar to tupacs one), alot of new dudes in the rap game try to follow his steps lol
and also our tupac (sabotage) was all about humulity and he's like the jesus of rap here and even after more than a decade since his dead (similar to tupacs one), alot of new dudes in the rap game try to follow his steps lol
Wear My Dawg's Hat
Superstar
We're now at a point where any youth expression done by black youth is called Hip Hop.
Even if it has zero to do with what was going on in NYC in 1978.
Where black music culture innovated over and over again in the past with different genres and styles (Ragtime, Blues, Gospel, Swing, Bop, Cool, Soul, R&B, Rock N Roll, Funk, Disco, House, Go-Go, Reggae, Ska), we're now stuck calling everything Hip Hop for 40 years like its the film Groundhog Day.
ZEB WALTON
ayo! - BEZ
This.
Hip hops number one problem since the 90s (which becomes more prevalent each year) is the untalented using their resources to push to the top of the game. The people who appreciate funk and music in general are not who you are hearing on the radio. Those people will never have their music heard because hip hop is about everything BUT the music...
Say whatchu want... but if your in rock, unless your name was sid vicious you have to know how to play an instrument... in rnb you have to be able to sing and hit the notes.. in jazz you gotta be able to keep up with the band... in hip hop you can find a beat on youtube, literally lay down and chant a buncha bullshyt and people will say youre talented.. idk whi fault it is anymore.. the artists or the fans who support them because of tye size of dudes chain or whatever
Its a popularity contest so lack of funk is not the problem its the lack of soul and i aint talking bout the genre
From bambatta
to rundmc 
to public enemy to wu tang...To dipset 
to asap
to odd future
to dresses and colored dread squad
Hip hop in 2018 is about style. Flash. Fashion. Swag. Street credibility. Money... etc. everything BUT music; so blaming a genres lack of influence on hip hop as tye cause is... reaching.
It is too easy to make music today and we no longer have the labels weeding out the straight bums. For every dope rapper theres 50 trash ones and with so much trash its hard to even distinguish whos dope and whos not so we accept mediocrity cuz There isnt enough time in the day.
IllmaticDelta
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The ironic thing is that the hiphop of the 70's is closer to the 2000's crunk era than it is to the golden ages of the 80's or 90's.
@IllmaticDelta had you scattering
He ain’t do nothing but almost ruin the thread with off topic arguments for arguments sake.
But fukk all that, what did YOU do besides cheerlead other men.
You been acting like a straight bytch since the day I posted the thread
In terms of simplistic call and response?
Sure.
The sound was quite different though.
ISO
Pass me the rock nikka
Absolutely not.
This is the worst era for hip hop beats.