The average car note in the US is $400 for a used car:scusthov:

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I mean it's all relative to what he makes as well as his other expenditures.

If duke has good credit, plus makes significantly more, I'm guessing north of 8,000 / month take home, then it shouldnt be a problem.

We all have vices we spend our money on. No should be a penny pincher 24/7. That's no way to live.


It would problematic is dude had a subpar credit score under 700, which mean he doesnt have a habit of paying his bills or a high debt to income ratio, as well only made median income (50k).

that's my point...a car note is $800+ on it, I pay $556...and the lease payment is less than 10% of my monthly net. I put 8% pre-tax toward my retirement & still save/invest 10 to 15% of my net pay each month. I can understand why he may see it as not ideal but I'm a Finance Director, all of my monthly allocations are set in stone.

I'd only recommend paying 500 for a note if you make $90k + and not $40k to $70k
 

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I couldn't imagine paying that type of money for a car per month. It's not even that it's unaffordable I'd just look at that and go there's ways that money could be making me more money instead of losing me money. I'm kinda unhappy paying $164 a month for what I got and can admit that it was a mistake to finance the car at all. I could have took that $10K down payment and got a whole car and been done.

Now if I was balling to the point where I could walk in the store and buy that car cash like it was a pack of gum or some shyt to me I might be able to see it but even then my nature would say don't do it. I don't ever really wanna spend more than $20K on a car.

My 2016 Honda Civic EX gets the job done probably at a higher level than I really needed. Exceptional gas mileage and enough modern features to get by.

this is exactly how i feel about buying a car. it's one of the worst purchases you can make. unless i'm swimming in money one day i'll always buy used and get the minimum features to meet my convenience.

it just doesn't make sense to splurge on something that depreciate in value especially if your money is tight.
 

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Y’all brehs laughing but right now this is the absolute best time to get a new vehicle.. low intersect rates 0% apr financing, this car manufacturers literally giving away these shyts now. I don’t like car notes either but afte suffering catastrophic engine failure on my car when I was driving home 2 weeks ago changed my mind.. my car was in perfect condition and I stayed on top on the maintenance.. I’m driving and my engine just cut off no warnings no nothing.. had the shyt towed to a shop and the next day they said my engine hydro locked smh wtf I had no warranty or nothing as it was a 9 yr old vehicle and it was my family mover.. I locked around to source used engines and the cheapest for one was 10gs.. I wasn’t spending 10 stacks and then another 2 stacks to install a engine that only had a 1 Ye warranty I was not gonna do it.

so I ended up trading in the vehicle for a 2019 INFINITI QX60, my credit union gave me a 0.9 apr financing and my payments are $285 a month.. Then a week ago I went dodge and copped me a New 2019 Dodge Charger Hellcat with 0% apr for 72 months along with getting dodge cash that knocks another 8gs off the price and I put down 12gs for a total down payment of 20gs.. so the price of the car came out to $35k and monthly payments are $440

Guess what tho I ain’t never got to worry about maintenance or catastrophe failure again.. If them shyts fukk up it’s the dealers problem they have to let me know when the shyt is finished... I loved used old cars that I can fix up and drive but at the same time I got 3 young kids and I can’t have them in something unreliable or my wife getting stranded because I’m being cheap, I make enough where car notes are not an impact on my finances.. But honestly if it wasn’t for this corona shyt I prob wouldn’t of even financed anything and just bought the Infiniti outright but since these institutions giving away interest free money I had to take advantage
 

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Anyone leasing or buying directly from a dealer is crazy. Find you a lease broker on one of those Lease/finance deal websites and they will do all of the dirty work for you and find you a ridiculous deal. Especially if you live in the tri state/California/ or Florida.

I hate the buying process and saved about 250 a Month on my fully equipped 2020 Volvo XC90. Trust me on this.
 

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I mean it's all relative to what he makes as well as his other expenditures.

If duke has good credit, plus makes significantly more, I'm guessing north of 8,000 / month take home, then it shouldnt be a problem.

We all have vices we spend our money on. No should be a penny pincher 24/7. That's no way to live.


It would problematic is dude had a subpar credit score under 700, which mean he doesnt have a habit of paying his bills or a high debt to income ratio, as well only made median income (50k).
man I cant do it.
Pre Corona I was set to make about $110K this year...I still cant stomach a car note.
Im single, no kids...but im cheap.

Im old enough to have taken some financial losses and know how quickly life can go downhill.
You can go from ballin to broke real fast...and that car note is a bytch when youre trying to get back on your feet.

I would rather stack my cash and invest it all.
If im going to splurge on something its going to be on a crib w/ a dope ass view.

IMO there are too many nice used Toyotas/Hondas/Lexus out there for under $20K to be had.

Breh in that video I posted on page 2 is a day trader...his trading account is about $1.5 million...and he's still driving a used cars.
 
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man I cant do it.
Pre Corona I was set to make about $110K this year...I still cant stomach a car note.
Im single, no kids...but im cheap.

Im old enough to have taken some financial losses and know how quickly life can go downhill.

You can go from ballin to broke real fast...and that car note is a bytch when youre trying to get back on your feet.

I would rather stack my cash and invest it all.
If im going to splurge on something its going to be on a crib w/ a dope ass view.

IMO there are too many nice used Toyotas/Hondas/Lexus out there for under $20K to be had.

Breh in that video I posted on page 2 is a day trader...his trading account is a bout $1.5 million...and he's still driving a used cars.
Same here, I've been broke ass shyt.

My car note and insurance are cheap(5k annually), but I'm like damn I hate paying for this shyt. I was broke as a joke at one point in between jobs and literally all my free money was being absorbed by these bills.

But if someone has the means and can justify spending less 10% of their income on it :yeshrug:
 

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My 2019 Honda Civic Sport is barely $300 a month. But, I still hate it (the payment). I've never paid no more than $200 a month before this car. Had a car all paid off and shyt too, but then it wanted to start giving me trouble to I traded it in and upgraded. Can't wait to return to #NoCarNote gang :mjcry:

Not to mention, a nikka went from only paying $90 in ins to damn near $200 :bryan:
 

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Y’all brehs laughing but right now this is the absolute best time to get a new vehicle.. low intersect rates 0% apr financing, this car manufacturers literally giving away these shyts now. I don’t like car notes either but afte suffering catastrophic engine failure on my car when I was driving home 2 weeks ago changed my mind.. my car was in perfect condition and I stayed on top on the maintenance.. I’m driving and my engine just cut off no warnings no nothing.. had the shyt towed to a shop and the next day they said my engine hydro locked smh wtf I had no warranty or nothing as it was a 9 yr old vehicle and it was my family mover.. I locked around to source used engines and the cheapest for one was 10gs.. I wasn’t spending 10 stacks and then another 2 stacks to install a engine that only had a 1 Ye warranty I was not gonna do it.

so I ended up trading in the vehicle for a 2019 INFINITI QX60, my credit union gave me a 0.9 apr financing and my payments are $285 a month.. Then a week ago I went dodge and copped me a New 2019 Dodge Charger Hellcat with 0% apr for 72 months along with getting dodge cash that knocks another 8gs off the price and I put down 12gs for a total down payment of 20gs.. so the price of the car came out to $35k and monthly payments are $440

Guess what tho I ain’t never got to worry about maintenance or catastrophe failure again.. If them shyts fukk up it’s the dealers problem they have to let me know when the shyt is finished... I loved used old cars that I can fix up and drive but at the same time I got 3 young kids and I can’t have them in something unreliable or my wife getting stranded because I’m being cheap, I make enough where car notes are not an impact on my finances.. But honestly if it wasn’t for this corona shyt I prob wouldn’t of even financed anything and just bought the Infiniti outright but since these institutions giving away interest free money I had to take advantage


WTF are you babbling about here. Sounds like your situation is different. Most people can’t afford these cars and most will and are not getting any kind of great apt because their credit isn’t good enough.

You are an outlier.
 

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WTF are you babbling about here. Sounds like your situation is different. Most people can’t afford these cars and most will and are not getting any kind of great apt because their credit isn’t good enough.

You are an outlier.

Shut up dumb ass the point is even if you dont want to put money into a down payment or little as possible the car manufacturers offering 0%apr financing.. That’s free money
 

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I paid off my 2013 Mazda 6 back in 2017. I will never have another car note, I was paying $410/month :hhh:,

I hated sending in that payment every month. The Mazda has given me A few problems over the years but it has served me relatively well. I have 99K miles on it and figure I can keep it going for another 3-4 years or up to 150K miles before I need to seriously look at getting something else. Which will definitely be a used car from 2017 and newer.
 

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Y’all brehs laughing but right now this is the absolute best time to get a new vehicle.. low intersect rates 0% apr financing, this car manufacturers literally giving away these shyts now. I don’t like car notes either but afte suffering catastrophic engine failure on my car when I was driving home 2 weeks ago changed my mind.. my car was in perfect condition and I stayed on top on the maintenance.. I’m driving and my engine just cut off no warnings no nothing.. had the shyt towed to a shop and the next day they said my engine hydro locked smh wtf I had no warranty or nothing as it was a 9 yr old vehicle and it was my family mover.. I locked around to source used engines and the cheapest for one was 10gs.. I wasn’t spending 10 stacks and then another 2 stacks to install a engine that only had a 1 Ye warranty I was not gonna do it.

so I ended up trading in the vehicle for a 2019 INFINITI QX60, my credit union gave me a 0.9 apr financing and my payments are $285 a month.. Then a week ago I went dodge and copped me a New 2019 Dodge Charger Hellcat with 0% apr for 72 months along with getting dodge cash that knocks another 8gs off the price and I put down 12gs for a total down payment of 20gs.. so the price of the car came out to $35k and monthly payments are $440

Guess what tho I ain’t never got to worry about maintenance or catastrophe failure again.. If them shyts fukk up it’s the dealers problem they have to let me know when the shyt is finished... I loved used old cars that I can fix up and drive but at the same time I got 3 young kids and I can’t have them in something unreliable or my wife getting stranded because I’m being cheap, I make enough where car notes are not an impact on my finances.. But honestly if it wasn’t for this corona shyt I prob wouldn’t of even financed anything and just bought the Infiniti outright but since these institutions giving away interest free money I had to take advantage

No hate against you at all, it's your money breh, but you basically went from having no car note, to having 2 car notes that quick?

The 2019 Infiniti QX60, that's a $35-40000 vehicle, even with 0.9 financing, at 285/month how long are you financing it for? Gotta be at least 7-8 years, if not more. I can't imagine you got that much from your trade in w/a blown engine.

And your Dodge Hellcat, you dropped 12gs down ( I understand Dodge gave you 8gs extra), and your payment is still 35000, 440/month? So that's gotta be for at least 7-8 years too.

Those are both long commitments on vehicles that quite honestly do not have a good reputation for reliability. Nissan been unimpressive since the Renault merger, and Dodge, well lets just say Chrysler and Fiat aren't known to bring quality to the table.

So you're looking at 750+/month in car payments for at least 7,8, if not more years, on an expense (cars are not assets, they are basically an expense) plus you gotta do full coverage on both of those vehicles during the duration of your financing, and I imagine the property taxes are exponentially more than what you had before.

What car did you have before that cost 10gs for an engine replacement? That seems high for most cars, unless you had a German car like an Audi/BMW/Mercedes (all of which become huge money pits as time passes).

You said you were going to buy the Infiniti outright, so it sounds like you make a good income and/or you're good at saving money. So if these purchases didn't affect your living that much, more power to you and I can understand the logic of borrowing money at rock bottom interest rates. But unfortunately most live above their means, and these types of purchases can put a lot of pressure on people to keep up...
 

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Y’all brehs laughing but right now this is the absolute best time to get a new vehicle.. low intersect rates 0% apr financing, this car manufacturers literally giving away these shyts now. I don’t like car notes either but afte suffering catastrophic engine failure on my car when I was driving home 2 weeks ago changed my mind.. my car was in perfect condition and I stayed on top on the maintenance.. I’m driving and my engine just cut off no warnings no nothing.. had the shyt towed to a shop and the next day they said my engine hydro locked smh wtf I had no warranty or nothing as it was a 9 yr old vehicle and it was my family mover.. I locked around to source used engines and the cheapest for one was 10gs.. I wasn’t spending 10 stacks and then another 2 stacks to install a engine that only had a 1 Ye warranty I was not gonna do it.

so I ended up trading in the vehicle for a 2019 INFINITI QX60, my credit union gave me a 0.9 apr financing and my payments are $285 a month.. Then a week ago I went dodge and copped me a New 2019 Dodge Charger Hellcat with 0% apr for 72 months along with getting dodge cash that knocks another 8gs off the price and I put down 12gs for a total down payment of 20gs.. so the price of the car came out to $35k and monthly payments are $440

Guess what tho I ain’t never got to worry about maintenance or catastrophe failure again.. If them shyts fukk up it’s the dealers problem they have to let me know when the shyt is finished... I loved used old cars that I can fix up and drive but at the same time I got 3 young kids and I can’t have them in something unreliable or my wife getting stranded because I’m being cheap, I make enough where car notes are not an impact on my finances.. But honestly if it wasn’t for this corona shyt I prob wouldn’t of even financed anything and just bought the Infiniti outright but since these institutions giving away interest free money I had to take advantage
This post uses the classic excuses and rationalizations people do to justify bad financial decisions. I know this because I made a bad decision on a car but it was mild. I put 60% down on a 2016 Honda Civic though. I could have took my down payment and bought a car outright. 5 year finance at $164 a month @2.99% APR back in 10/2019. I pay what I own and I pay myself that same amount every month so I'll have the money in just about 2 years from now to pay the thing off completely.

There's an opportunity cost to owning those cars. You went from being fine driving a 9 year old car to having it fail and getting tied up in at least $900 a month in both car and insurance payments if not more.

The compound interest calculator says just for that Charger Hellcat if you took that down payment and it's monthly payment without the insurance you're obviously paying for it invested it compounded at a 7% growth rate over the length of the term you're losing about $12K in growth. In 6 years you'd have an estimated $56K invested. Instead in 6 years if you still have that car you'll likely have something that's worth a few thousand over the down payment you made. Let's be generous and say in 6 years that car is worth $20K That's a $36K swing between what you could have and what you will have.
 
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