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I'd give Nas 2001 or better yet, at the very least, 2002 since Ether carried over into 2002
The Best Rapper Alive, Every Year Since 1979 (Complex)
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2001 going into 2002, ether dropped, yall. just sayin.
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50 cent and best rapper....hahahahaha fukk outta here
prophecypro
Hollywood North
I'd put Bron in the comparison of Kanye. Both are all time greats already but you still get people who feel strange compariing them to the one time MVP greats even if he might hav surpassed them (Kobe,Shaq, Hakeem). In that same respect, Kanye is the artist of the decade but when we start talking about if he surpassed 90s legends and icons from a Hip Hop talent perspective opinion is varied.
Drake is like maybe Nash getting the MVP twice, like you recognize the talent but you wouldnt see him head and shoulders above all time greats or even their current peers
Cabbage Patch
The Media scene in V is for Vendetta is the clue
actually a pretty good list but u already know some bitter nikkas gonna be pickin it apart with the generic "fukk complex" comments because their favorite no ones weren't listed
lol @ the un-intentional revisionist disrespect for DMC these days.
q-tip in 1991?
change it to post 1998(MAYBE 1999) and i'll come back and dap. the list went to hell after that.
its like they changed up their criteria as soon as the 2000s hit and turned into a pop list with most of the '00s picks.
theres no way you can have nas winning in '94, but then turn around and give years to people like eminem, drake, kendrick, kanye & old jay-z. theyre clearly not using the same critieria thru this whole list.
its simple.
jay-z had rocafella records.
he also had the better album & singles.
q-tip in 1991?
change it to post 1998(MAYBE 1999) and i'll come back and dap. the list went to hell after that.
its like they changed up their criteria as soon as the 2000s hit and turned into a pop list with most of the '00s picks.
theres no way you can have nas winning in '94, but then turn around and give years to people like eminem, drake, kendrick, kanye & old jay-z. theyre clearly not using the same critieria thru this whole list.
its simple.
jay-z had rocafella records.
he also had the better album & singles.
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you're still living in 2010
everybody has Kendrick Lamar in their playlist now.
biggie took off moreso in 1995.
plus, youre forgetting about the junior mafia album run.
THIS.
THIS.
q-tip shouldnt be there tho. but still.
THIS.
they should come back and do one strictly for the groups, so we can chit on that too, and they can get their hits & $$$.
this list wasnt bad until they got to the 2000s. its actually easy for people to agree on lists like these. thats why its so painful to look at the 2000s portion.
THE ONES I DISAGREE WITH.
1983 & 1984: at least one of those years should go to DMC. or they should just have run dmc up there together. i hate how history is now being told as if DMC was some sort of complimentary rapper. yes, Run was the star & the main one that sold the group but DMC was THE MAN. to put it in '90s standards, Run was method man but DMC was raekwon.
1986: i'd give it to RUN DMC again.......or maybe ll cool j again?
i think theyre jumping the gun a tad bit and purposely put KRS there so that he, rakim, slick rick & kane could all have a year on the list without anyone getting their toes stepped on. chuck d still got snubbed thru that era of years.
1991: should be ICE CUBE again
treach, ll cool j, chuck d and maybe some others should be mentioned before q-tip. low-key, he wasnt even the nicest on the mic in his group either.
1992: i'd give it to KOOL G. RAP
no disrespect to redman but they know theyre reaching with that pick.
1997: should be MASTER P
aint nobody even mentioned him yet. my my my, how history has been revised.
1999: should be DMX again OR JUVENILE
DMX clearly was still out-shining jay. he had the east crown still and arguably still had the whole map........but JUVENILE had a HUGE year too.
2000: should be JAY-Z
eminem never had a year. they need to stop with the blatant white-washing. this is the 1st year i give to jay. and he can keep 2001. thats 2 years for camel.
2002: i'd give it to NAS again
year was wide-open really. might as well give it to nas for a 2nd time.
2004: i'd give it to CAMRON
lol @ T.I. being on top. that dude was running around trying to pick a battle with lil flip and trying mad hard to be seen. then he ended up getting demolished by ludacris and dropped that weak "urban legend" album.
2006: i'd give this one to T.I. actually.
he didnt have the best album like the hype says, but he certainly had the best year..........he got destroyed by ludacris again tho.
2007 - 2013
i'd give a couple years to LIL WAYNE. he clearly was the most popular in all facets of the game, even tho people knew he wasnt really the best.
give a year to GUCCI MANE. and possibly a 2nd year to JEEZY. i'd maybe throw BOOSIE a year but he didnt really hit the east like that.
RICK ROSS has had at least 3 years & counting. this is his era.
i really dont care like that to break '07-13 down. this is when rap died, especially mainstream rap which became pop. and complex' version of this list caters towards that. plus they started blocking niccas out the game, which is the reason why all these years look identical. being on top of those years dont mean chit b. but congrats to the people i listed anyway.
kool moe dee was an old school rapper in the mid-late '80s breh. what made him a goat contender is the early '80s stuff with the treacherous three. the fact that he managed to stick around thru the early '90s just added to his legend, being the 1st rapper with ridiculous longevity - before LL did it.
puff & mase were blowing up anyway. biggie was alive when "cant nobody hold me down" & the original benjamins blew up, and he was nowhere near those records aside from possibly ghostwriting some of puff's stuff.
and lets keep it real, if big didnt die, "life after death" would not be held anywhere near the same regard. he wouldve caught alot of flack and been labeled a sellout.
this list wasnt bad until they got to the 2000s. its actually easy for people to agree on lists like these. thats why its so painful to look at the 2000s portion.
THE ONES I DISAGREE WITH.
1983 & 1984: at least one of those years should go to DMC. or they should just have run dmc up there together. i hate how history is now being told as if DMC was some sort of complimentary rapper. yes, Run was the star & the main one that sold the group but DMC was THE MAN. to put it in '90s standards, Run was method man but DMC was raekwon.
1986: i'd give it to RUN DMC again.......or maybe ll cool j again?
i think theyre jumping the gun a tad bit and purposely put KRS there so that he, rakim, slick rick & kane could all have a year on the list without anyone getting their toes stepped on. chuck d still got snubbed thru that era of years.
1991: should be ICE CUBE again
treach, ll cool j, chuck d and maybe some others should be mentioned before q-tip. low-key, he wasnt even the nicest on the mic in his group either.
1992: i'd give it to KOOL G. RAP
no disrespect to redman but they know theyre reaching with that pick.
1997: should be MASTER P
aint nobody even mentioned him yet. my my my, how history has been revised.
1999: should be DMX again OR JUVENILE
DMX clearly was still out-shining jay. he had the east crown still and arguably still had the whole map........but JUVENILE had a HUGE year too.
2000: should be JAY-Z
eminem never had a year. they need to stop with the blatant white-washing. this is the 1st year i give to jay. and he can keep 2001. thats 2 years for camel.
2002: i'd give it to NAS again
year was wide-open really. might as well give it to nas for a 2nd time.
2004: i'd give it to CAMRON
lol @ T.I. being on top. that dude was running around trying to pick a battle with lil flip and trying mad hard to be seen. then he ended up getting demolished by ludacris and dropped that weak "urban legend" album.
2006: i'd give this one to T.I. actually.
he didnt have the best album like the hype says, but he certainly had the best year..........he got destroyed by ludacris again tho.
2007 - 2013
i'd give a couple years to LIL WAYNE. he clearly was the most popular in all facets of the game, even tho people knew he wasnt really the best.
give a year to GUCCI MANE. and possibly a 2nd year to JEEZY. i'd maybe throw BOOSIE a year but he didnt really hit the east like that.
RICK ROSS has had at least 3 years & counting. this is his era.
i really dont care like that to break '07-13 down. this is when rap died, especially mainstream rap which became pop. and complex' version of this list caters towards that. plus they started blocking niccas out the game, which is the reason why all these years look identical. being on top of those years dont mean chit b. but congrats to the people i listed anyway.
kool moe dee was an old school rapper in the mid-late '80s breh. what made him a goat contender is the early '80s stuff with the treacherous three. the fact that he managed to stick around thru the early '90s just added to his legend, being the 1st rapper with ridiculous longevity - before LL did it.
puff & mase were blowing up anyway. biggie was alive when "cant nobody hold me down" & the original benjamins blew up, and he was nowhere near those records aside from possibly ghostwriting some of puff's stuff.
and lets keep it real, if big didnt die, "life after death" would not be held anywhere near the same regard. he wouldve caught alot of flack and been labeled a sellout.
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kendrick and nas (94) probably had the same criteria: their universally acclaimed albums
kendrick album is universally acclaimed on what planet?
lets stop with the denial and tell the truth. kendrick is a plant whos adored by white people & stiff-niccas.
nas in '94 didnt have to beg for attention and pull stunts like the control verse.
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kendrick didn't need that either. gkmc earned the universal acclaim way before the release of control and the verse dropped a few weeks after the platinum plaque.
the album has a total score of 91/100 on metacritic, which means it has been praised by publications of every musical genre and some of the critics even gave it a perfect 9 or 10 because of the alarmingly high amount of praise by music listeners.
he earned universal acclaim with whom?
its not about sales. he moves empty numbers like j.cole. and i seriously doubt either of them really moved the units that they claim.
he earned universal acclaim with whom?
its not about sales. he moves empty numbers like j.cole. and i seriously doubt either of them really moved the units that they claim.
nas's universal acclaim comes from the critics, same shyt for kendrick and they're both praised by music listeners in general.
Kendrick was undershipped (1st week) and still managed to go plat (and the album is still selling as we speak)... and most people I know own the album so stop being in denial
nas's universal acclaim comes from the critics, same shyt for kendrick and they're both praised by music listeners in general.
Kendrick was undershipped (1st week) and still managed to go plat (and the album is still selling as we speak)... and most people I know own the album so stop being in denial
only thing they have in common is props from the critics.
nas' main acclaim came from the streets & the culture. kendrick cant say that. it doesnt matter how many times you try to repeat yourself.
arent you from the west coast? that would explain alot.
for a guy thats platinum in this era, he sure is moving like an artist that sold under gold. and he definitely lacks impact.
Yo somebody drop me a PM and let me know if its cool to still hate on Complex or have we gone full circle yet? Not sure if i should irrationally hate or give them props? Just dont make me actually read this shyt b.