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Is George Zimmerman and the cop who killed this kid still alive?

How will a Riot or protest change that?
 

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no one said that wasn't a problem...i merely pointed out that in this case it's not an apples to apples comparison. if the cop were black, the outrage would have been the same. when two civilians kill each other, regardless of race, 9 times out of 10 it's not that big a deal because it happens so much.,

No sir...it would not be...because it wouldnt be a "racial" vibe to it.....this whole thing is racial
 

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Black People Are Not Ignoring 'Black on Black' Crime
The politics of changing the subject
TA-NEHISI COATESAUG 15 2014, 8:53 PM ET

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the tragic murder of Knijah Bibb, offers an incarnation here:

We’ve been through this so many times. Brown, from all reports, was a good kid who had just graduated from high school and was about to enroll in college. But young black men are automatically assumed to be dangerous thugs—and are not given the benefit of the doubt that young white men are accorded. This is racist and wrong, and it must change.

But we should be just as outraged over Knijah’s death—and just as determined that this kind of killing should never happen again.

The entire Prince George’s County police force—not just the homicide division—has been working long hours to try to find Wallace and is motivated by what a police spokesman called a “sense of moral outrage.”

That feeling should be universal. The near-constant background noise of black-on-black violence is too often ignored. Yet it continues to claim victims at a rate that our society should consider outrageous and unacceptable.

There are a number of things wrong here. To the extent that killings by the police generate more outrage, it is completely understandable. Police in America are granted wide range of powers by the state including lethal force. With that power comes a special place of honor. When cops are killed the outrage is always different than when citizens are killed. Likewise when cops kill under questionable terms, more scrutiny follows directly from the logic of citizenship. Great power. Great responsibility.

More importantly Robinson's claim is demonstrably false. The notion that violence within the black community is "background noise" is not supported by the historical recordor by Google. I have said this before. It's almost as if Stop The Violence never happened, or The Interruptors never happened, orKendrick Lamar never happened. The call issued by Erica Ford at the end of this Do The Right Thing retrospective is so common as to be ritual. It is not "black on black crime" that is background noise in America, but the pleas of black people.

There is a pattern here, but it isn't the one Eugene Robinson (for whom I have a great respect) thinks. The pattern is the transmutation of black protest into moral hectoring of black people. Don Imus profanely insults a group of black women. But the real problem is gangsta rap. Trayvon Martin is killed. This becomes a conversation about how black men are bad fathers. Jonathan Martin is bullied mercilessly. This proves that black people have an unfortunate sense of irony.

The politics of respectability are, at their root, the politics of changing the subject—the last resort for those who can not bear the agony of looking their country in the eye. The policy of America has been, for most of its history, white supremacy. The high rates of violence in black neighborhoods do not exist outside of these facts—they evidence them.

This history presents us with a suite of hard choices. We do not like hard choices. Here's a better idea: Let's all get together and talk about how Mike Brown would still be alive if Beyoncé would make more wholesome music, followed by a national forum on how the charge of "acting white" contributes to mass incarceration. We can conclude with a keynote lecture on "Kids Today" and a shrug.
 

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While black on black homicides remain a serious problem it is a problem that is being addressed within communities of color. In 2011, according to FBI statistics 2447 African-Americans were murdered by members of their own race in the United States. While that number is tragic, it pales in comparison to the 7361 who were killed by fellow African-Americans two decades earlier in 1991. Black on black homicide has decreased by 67 percent in two decades, a sharper rate of decrease than white on white homicide. During the 1990s, black on black homicide was more common than white on white homicide. In 2011, more white Americans were murdered by fellow whites than the number of black Americans killed by other blacks. Yet, no right-wing commentator has spoken about the fact that white on white homicides now outnumber black on black murders in the United States.

http://www.politicususa.com/2013/07/21/east-ny-myth-addressing-black-black-homicide.html
 

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no one said that wasn't a problem...i merely pointed out that in this case it's not an apples to apples comparison. if the cop were black, the outrage would have been the same. when two civilians kill each other, regardless of race, 9 times out of 10 it's not that big a deal because it happens so much.,

I think their point is if black on black civilian crime is also a (bigger) problem, how come blacks don't protest and riot for that?

And no I'm not a "cac".
 

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Black killing blacks is a problem, but this is a political problem, a deep-rooted problem which was created by the oppression from the white people.

However black on black violence is usually about people playing the game, if you are in the game you accept the rules and risks that come with it. (although you most likely don't cause you are just drawn into the game due to poverty, just being a kid, ignorance created by a rigged system).

But without going any deeper, if you are in the game and get murked it's on you. Now if you're a normal kid just walking down your street minding your own business and you get harassed, beaten, shot etc.. That's not on you, therefore the outrage.
 

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Black killing blacks is a problem, but this is a political problem, a deep-rooted problem which was created by the oppression from the white people.

However black on black violence is usually about people playing the game, if you are in the game you accept the rules and risks that come with it. (although you most likely don't cause you are just drawn into the game due to poverty, just being a kid, ignorance created by a rigged system).

But without going any deeper, if you are in the game and get murked it's on you. Now if you're a normal kid just walking down your street minding your own business and you get harassed, beaten, shot etc.. That's not on you, therefore the outrage.

Alot of black on black and brown on brown violence victims are not people that are "in the game", you reaching. Unless by "in the game" you mean living in poverty.
 
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I think their point is if black on black civilian crime is also a (bigger) problem, how come blacks don't protest and riot for that?

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and how do you know blacks dont riot/protest for that? you know how many community leaders put forth time,energy,money into educational centers, outreach after school programs, gang intervention, rally's etc. just in East Oakland alone.. but of course the media isnt going to publicize that because its not gonna move the ratings....... Can't believe we have so many simple minded dudes on here.
 

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I read in the paper today that like 95 percent of shooting victims and perpetrators in nyc are black and latino

Yikes
 

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and how do you know blacks dont riot/protest for that? you know how many community leaders put forth time,energy,money into educational centers, outreach after school programs, gang intervention, rally's etc. just in East Oakland alone.. but of course the media isnt going to publicize that because its not gonna move the ratings....... Can't believe we have so many simple minded dudes on here.

I never gave MY opinion buddy

Relax
 

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And what's with everyone accusing everyone else of being a white boy on here?

That shyt is sooooo corny
 
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