The case against Bernie Sanders

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I see rich folks are getting nervous about Sanders, so here comes the hit pieces.

1. Bernie Sanders is barely qualifies for a Socialist.

2. What it really comes down to for Bernie is more equal playing field for all Americans. Less money in politics, healthcare and quality education for all Americans, the wealthy paying their fair share in taxes......

This redistribution nonsense that is being pimped by right wing lackeys is hot term just like "socialist" and "commies"

Gets low information voters afraid.
Bernie doesn't say what you said in as muted terms. You realize this, right?

And frankly, I don't know if I can trust Bernie to handle geopolitics as well as Hilary would. We're going through some massive changes right now and you have to consider who you want to represent the interests of AMERICA when it comes to the rest of the world.
 

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Bernie doesn't say what you said in as muted terms. You realize this, right?

And frankly, I don't know if I can trust Bernie to handle geopolitics as well as Hilary would. We're going through some massive changes right now and you have to consider who you want to represent the interests of AMERICA when it comes to the rest of the world.

:dwillhuh: His entire underlying point is dismantling the overbearing influence the wealthy have on American politics, economy and geopolitics...........


If it isn't stopped now, the future will be a nightmare
 

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:dwillhuh: His entire underlying point is dismantling the overbearing influence the wealthy have on American politics, economy and geopolitics...........


If it isn't stopped now, the future will be a nightmare
I support removing money out of politics.

But Bernie offers no specifics.

Inequality is NOT a bad thing...the problem is people say the "bottom" hasn't risen high enough and I do not know what that means. The BBC just had a podcast about this.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p03d52kp
 

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Yeah, at the cost of enslavement of one race and the genocide of another. The USA wouldn't be where it is without it. fukk that shyt.
I am one of the last to ignore that, as a black man...BUT...the stake and welfare of black people is the greatest in the US more than any other country on earth. We have the greatest promise here and its OUR duty to maintain that leverage.
 

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I support removing money out of politics.

But Bernie offers no specifics.

Inequality is NOT a bad thing...the problem is people say the "bottom" hasn't risen high enough and I do not know what that means. The BBC just had a podcast about this.

How Much Inequality Is Too Much?, The Inquiry - BBC World Service


AS PRESIDENT, I WILL:
  • Only appoint Supreme Court justices who will make it a priority to overturn Citizens United and who understand that corruption in politics means more than just quid pro quo.
  • Fight to pass a constitutional amendment making it clear that Congress and the states have the power to regulate money in elections. I have been a proud sponsor and leading champion of such an amendment in the Senate.
  • Fight for a publicly financed, transparent system of campaign financing that amplifies small donations, along the lines of the Fair Elections Now Act that I have been pleased to co-sponsor, and an effective public financing system for president.
  • Insist on complete transparency regarding the funding of campaigns, including through disclosure of contributions to outside spending groups, via legislation, action by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Election Commission, and Federal Communication Commission, and an executive order requiring government contractors to disclose their political spending.
  • Fight to eliminate super PACs and other outside spending abuses.
  • Work to aggressively enforce campaign finance rules.


Get Big Money Out of Politics and Restore Democracy - Bernie Sanders
 

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AS PRESIDENT, I WILL:
  • Only appoint Supreme Court justices who will make it a priority to overturn Citizens United and who understand that corruption in politics means more than just quid pro quo.
  • Fight to pass a constitutional amendment making it clear that Congress and the states have the power to regulate money in elections. I have been a proud sponsor and leading champion of such an amendment in the Senate.
  • Fight for a publicly financed, transparent system of campaign financing that amplifies small donations, along the lines of the Fair Elections Now Act that I have been pleased to co-sponsor, and an effective public financing system for president.
  • Insist on complete transparency regarding the funding of campaigns, including through disclosure of contributions to outside spending groups, via legislation, action by the Securities and Exchange Commission, Federal Election Commission, and Federal Communication Commission, and an executive order requiring government contractors to disclose their political spending.
  • Fight to eliminate super PACs and other outside spending abuses.
  • Work to aggressively enforce campaign finance rules.


Get Big Money Out of Politics and Restore Democracy - Bernie Sanders
if they removed the corporate identification of them being "people" that would fix a majority of this.

I don't know if limiting personal financial amounts on donations is fair.
 

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i was writing up a big response to this post but once i saw the moron who wrote it i stopped :mjlol:

i did go to see if any other journalists had responded to this non sense :sas1:

the only thing i agree with chait on is that if sanders does get eleceted it's going to be hard as hell for him to get through meaningful reforms without the help of people on the ground :patrice:

but i do want to respond to this:

the issue with obama's volunteers is that they needed OBAMA to keep them engaged when it should've been the VOLUNTEERS keeping OBAMA engaged on their issues. :camby:

the # of supports is not as important as making sure they're well informed and keep up sustained efforts throughout the presidency instead of sittin at home complaining :dame:

Pretty thorough rebuttal and spot on in my opinion...
 

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My parents weren't even born here...and I KNOW I have more passport stamps than you.

But what does this change?

I have my perspective about the black diaspora and you have yours.

I've been to 56 different countries traveling for NATO as a counterintelligence analyst for both CENTCOM and AFRICOM. I'm betting you don't.
 

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The USA is the poster child for economic success. Hands down.

So talking about "redistribution" worries me because in a nation that has strived on letting people do what they want, why does he keep making it sound like people who have followed the law, done the right thing, and still made money deserve to lose money to a few hands who have bended rules to do so? Bernie lacks that nuance, and frankly its unsettling.
Because of exploitation, unequal opportunity gaps on a gross scale, and the majority being left out of the economic heaven dream.
 
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