The Chef Hires A Servant To Stop The Kang From Ringing: Cavs vs Warriors III

[FlyRy]

Y'all think Shumpert will start the next game? He's the Cavs best on-ball defender & one of the few of them playing without fear.

He should be in fear of his FG%. Seeing him shoot is painful and pathetic.

 

[WMG the 2nd]

i don't think he's far superior.. but lets be serious

you put lebron on the warriors and KD on the cavs, is KD performing the same?

we talking about the dude who just blew a 3-1 lead to the warriors last year.. i say he's 2 in the game but still not better than bron.. he's not stopping bron from doing anything either. he shoots better but he doesn't out rebound, block, defend or pass better than bron.. and we not gonna use 2 games vs the other 82 plus playoffs, to suddenly make big ass assumptions like this

Put Lebron on the warriors for the past 8 season stuck with Russ and no shooting and give kd wade and bosh then kyrie and love

Also kd is blocking stealing and shooting better then bron right now and arguably did last year before he joined this team

 

[ALonelyDad]

Superteam Era May Be Here to Stay After LeBron and KD Changed Free-Agency Game

Though Durant says he did not consider James' precedent, he readily admits, "He paved the way."

 

[ALonelyDad]

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

@Nature Boy Ric Flair get in here and explain this

 

[Remote]

I don't know how you defend these damn near half court shots that Curry is making.

But god damn it I fukking hate Zaza Pechulia

 

[Kiyoshi-Dono]

Richard Jefferson fruity ass apologizing

 

[The Devil's Advocate]

Put Lebron on the warriors for the past 8 season stuck with Russ and no shooting and give kd wade and bosh then kyrie and love

Also kd is blocking stealing and shooting better then bron right now and arguably did last year before he joined this team

there is no arguably, there's facts (stats) so no he didn't, except shooting

i think lebron improves a team more than kd.. we acting like KD took some shytty ass team and made them great.. they fukking won 73 games last year and was up 2-0 in the finals with 20 point wins... they are doing nothing new

now kd left westbrook.... what did that team do? make the playoffs.. lebron was in the finals and playoffs every year... left cleveland... what happened? lottery team.. got kyrie.... lottery team... got love... what happened in games where lebron doesn't play... losing record


see this isn't a lot of guesswork.. these are facts that cannot be argued

the only guessing we doing is, what if they swapped teams.. but the past history, lebron has been better on worse teams.. we all thought russ was holding kd back.. but without kd last year cause of injuries.. without him this year at all.. we see that OKC is right where they was without him... getting to the playoffs and early exits


without lebron... the heat didn't do shyt and neither did cleveland

 

[23Barrettcity]

One of LeBron's greatest gifts can also be a detriment in terms of team construction.

LeBron has always been praised for his ability to run a team with his facilitating and high basketball IQ. This is undisputed facts. With that said, LeBron's inability (or is it unwillingness?) to play offball and let the game come to him on occasion means that his teams can be overly dependent on him. So when LeBron sits, the system sits. Is it that LeBron co-stars can't play winning basketball without him due to limitations in their own games, or is it because they've literally had no experience within their current team structure being tasked with developing their cohesiveness without the "LeBron System". Is it really that Wade + Bosh or Kyrie + Love ain't shyt without him, or have they been conditioned to not be shyt without him due the above? In a way, while LeBron has allowed Kyrie to flourish in his natural talent as an otherwordly scorer, it may have stunted his growth as a facilitator.

I feel similarly about Chris Paul's ball dominance. The difference is that him and Blake have both been injured on different occassions so often that LAC has learned how to run the team around Blake even when CP3 is hurt. I also wish Russ would let Oladipo control the offense more and also get Adams more touches (who I thought was going to make a big jump after last year's playoffs), but I'll fall back on that cuz I'm not tryna get into it with Loose.

Going back to my original LeBron narrative, on the flip side, Kevin Durant does not need to dominate the ball to be the best player on the court. On the contrary, KD's game allows for others to do their thing and he still finds way to have the most impact on the court. KD has the handle the facilitating ability to to also set others up, and does so in spots, but why would he do that all the time with teammates like Curry and Westbrook? Would be silly...

So with all that said, to those that feel you could swap LeBron for KD and they'd be even better, I actually disagree...strongly. They'd be worse because LeBron is nowhere near the offensive force KD is, he's not as versatile defensively, and the offense wouldn't flow as seamlessly.

Yeah, LeBron makes his teammates better, but his game also tends to stunt their growth to the point where their ceiling is a highly talented auxiliary component that loses their functionality when the masterboard is shut off for rest.

Does bron make them better or and hear me out , he dominates the ball so much ( he's a all world player ) that he just masks the flaws of others . That to me isn't the same as making players better , it's like if your spouse uses too much money so the other one controls the finances . That would make the person spend less but no improve their spending . Jr is still streaky and makes dumb decisions but he isn't expected to be anything else but what he is, Shump offense still sucks and defense is ok but he gets over aggressive

 

[Mantis Toboggan M.D.]

Does bron make them better or and hear me out , he dominates the ball so much ( he's a all world player ) that he just masks the flaws of others . That to me isn't the same as making players better , it's like if your spouse uses too much money so the other one controls the finances . That would make the person spend less but no improve their spending . Jr is still streaky and makes dumb decisions but he isn't expected to be anything else but what he is, Shump offense still sucks and defense is ok but he gets over aggressive

In my opinion, I think he's capable of making other great players better (look at how good Wade became at playing off the ball while they were teammates) and he's always been great at masking the flaws of some teammates (taking the ball out of Irving's hands some helps with his tunnel vision, but he doesn't remove bad habits that players have. That's a coaches responsibility.

LeBron's teammates didn't help him grow into a willing and great defender, Mike Brown did that. His teammates didn't help him improve as a post player and make him more willing to post up, his sessions studying with Hakeem and letting Spo coach him did that. Same way that Jordan's coaches convinced him to trust his teammates even in cases where they miss shots, and Leonard has been quoted as saying pop taught him that calling a play for him doesn't mean a play for Leonard to score, just that he's a large part of this play for someone on the spurs to score.

 

[street heat]

Wait a minute.. Harrison Barnes had 65 points the entire 7 game series last year?! I didn't realize it was that bad until I read the preview for game 3 a short whole ago.

Kd with 71 in two games and Barnes couldn't get that in 7. fukking guy..

He was the 4th option, kd is the first option.

 

[MicIsGod]

He was the 4th option, kd is the first option.

You nikkas man.

 

[Brief Keef]

I respect the honesty breh

We gon keep our foot on yall neck tho

Shouldna been talkin shyt

he might be the funniest bron stan

 

[fifth column]

there is no arguably, there's facts (stats) so no he didn't, except shooting

i think lebron improves a team more than kd.. we acting like KD took some shytty ass team and made them great.. they fukking won 73 games last year and was up 2-0 in the finals with 20 point wins... they are doing nothing new

now kd left westbrook.... what did that team do? make the playoffs.. lebron was in the finals and playoffs every year... left cleveland... what happened? lottery team.. got kyrie.... lottery team... got love... what happened in games where lebron doesn't play... losing record


see this isn't a lot of guesswork.. these are facts that cannot be argued

the only guessing we doing is, what if they swapped teams.. but the past history, lebron has been better on worse teams.. we all thought russ was holding kd back.. but without kd last year cause of injuries.. without him this year at all.. we see that OKC is right where they was without him... getting to the playoffs and early exits


without lebron... the heat didn't do shyt and neither did cleveland

Only Lebron shines in the Lebron system. His teams are not constructed to be successful without him orchestrating everything. KD is KD wherever

 

[Dak Pickscott]

-no reaction by lebron after curry was dancing/flexing/talking noise. mush him? bump him? something b. lefriendly
-18 shots aka 1 shot in the 4th aka lefieldgoalpercentage; get some shots up b
-quit blaming jr smith. he was who we thought he was
-40 pts in the 1st? 100 pts in 3 quarters? is this all star weekend smh
-who cavs getting this offseason after this L? cousins? george? melo? paul?