The Cleveland Cavaliers have acquired Donovan Mitchell in a trade, sources tell ESPN.

[Shadow King]

His sole skill isn’t threes and even if it was it’s better than Barrett who isn’t good at anything. Just shows you don’t watch games.

If you actually watched games you’d see Markannen attacks close outs hard, he can attack off hand offs whether as a shooting threat or straight line driver, he’s even gotten reps as a ball handler on P&R’s at his size, he is creating more offense with step backs. He has made hook shots and shows a face up game. He’s unlocked his game with the freedom he’s had from the Euro tournament to this Jazz team. He is basically an athletic, mobile 7 footer who can create his own shot and play in motion within an offense too.

He’s also actually struggled as a three point shooter and has been hyper-efficient inside. 85% at the rim, 55% from floater range, 18 dunks in 8 games.

Yeah they “supposed” to be in the race for Wemby but they aren’t because of him and because their teams synergy and talent is generally slept on.

7 games my guy.

 

[ISO]

7 games my guy.

It doesn’t matter how many games it’s been it’s about the noticeable material improvements to his game and what he’s showing is shyt he showed at the Euro tournament which @Gil Scott-Heroin mentioned

He probably started working on his perimeter game more once Cleveland put him at SF

Markannen is making step backs at 7 feet…RJ been in the league 4 years and been a wing his whole life and can’t do that shyt

 

[Shadow King]

It doesn’t matter how many games it’s been it’s about the noticeable material improvements to his game and what he’s showing is shyt he showed at the Euro tournament which @Gil Scott-Heroin mentioned

He probably started working on his perimeter game more once Cleveland put him at SF

Markannen is making step backs…RJ been in the league 4 years and been a wing his whole life and can’t do that shyt

It does matter how many games when you're quoting area percentages and long range shooting slumps as if these things are going to remain the same for the course of the season.

Mind you, you mentioned "freedom". We know Markannen has freedom. Does the player you insist on shytting on have this same freedom? Has he ever? And do not say "if he had the skills he'd have it".

 

[ISO]

It does matter how many games when you're quoting area percentages and long range shooting slumps as if these things are going to remain the same for the course of the season.

Mind you, you mentioned "freedom". We know Markannen has freedom. Does the player you insist on shytting on have this same freedom? Has he ever? And do not say "if he had the skills he'd have it".

Those %’s are to show you the improvement which is what you are ignoring the improvements. It’s how he’s doing it. In the past Markannen would not be able to produce an 8 game stretch with that quality of paint play.

Markannen will have a more efficient season than Barrett offensively regardless if it holds…again.

Yes RJ has more freedom.

He leads us in field goal attempts and he has played big minutes and been allowed to shoulder a significant share of the offense for years. He has been allowed to shoot through slumps that would get most players benched and he’s been healthy. This season he’s supposed to be showing these improvements he has made but instead is off to one of his worst slumps ever. He is still a guy who doesn’t looks like he is good at any skill or scoring in any area of the floor but can rack up a decent (but inefficient) box score on bully ball, motor, and usage.

 

[Shadow King]

Those %’s are to show you the improvement which is what you are ignoring the improvements. It’s how he’s doing it. In the past Markannen would not be able to produce an 8 game stretch with that quality of paint play.

Markannen will have a more efficient season than Barrett offensively regardless if it holds…again.

Yes RJ has more freedom.

He leads us in field goal attempts and he has played big minutes and been allowed to shoulder a significant share of the offense for years. He has been allowed to shoot through slumps that would get most players benched and he’s been healthy. This season he’s supposed to be showing these improvements he has made but instead is off to one of his worst slumps ever. He is still a guy who doesn’t looks like he is good at any skill or scoring in any area of the floor but can rack up a decent (but inefficient) box score on bully ball, motor, and usage.

Markannen is not going to shoot 85% at the rim all season, or struggle with 3s all season.


RJ has the same freedom on a team with Julius Randle and Jalen Brunson trying to be competitive in the East? okay my guy. And I didn't know a rookie scale player missing 10 games a year was healthy but aight.

You brought up "the past" and what Lauri couldn't do. Which was my point and what my original statement was about. If Lauri improves and is clearly better than RJ this season that's fine. 6 months ago he was not and I was not to be convinced otherwise. This year is something different.

 

[ISO]

Markannen is not going to shoot 85% at the rim all season, or struggle with 3s all season.


RJ has the same freedom on a team with Julius Randle and Jalen Brunson trying to be competitive in the East? okay my guy. And I didn't know a rookie scale player missing 10 games a year was healthy but aight.

Yeah he’s not he’s gonna balance out to be more efficient than RJ again though and will likely shoot a career high in the paint.

Not sure what you are insinuating. There’s high hopes for this Knicks team and he’s the one letting us down. Julius and Brunson have been good. Markannen is the one who was put on a so-called “tanking” team and instead of falling flat on his face or reverting to bad habits is showing all the improvements he’s made. At least stay consistent with the narrative.

He’s played 70+ games the last two seasons in one of those seasons he played all games it was COVID. He hasn’t had significant injuries. Markannen’s development is the one that’s been hampered by injuries. RJ should be further along.

 

[Shadow King]

Yeah he’s not he’s gonna balance out to be more efficient than RJ again though and will likely shoot a career high in the paint.

Not sure what you are insinuating. There’s high hopes for this Knicks team and he’s the one letting us down. Julius and Brunson have been good. Markannen is the one who was put on a so-called “tanking” team and instead of falling flat on his face or reverting to bad habits is showing all the improvements he’s made. At least stay consistent with the narrative.

He’s played 70+ games the last two seasons in one of those seasons he played all games it was COVID. He hasn’t had significant injuries. Markannen’s development is the one that’s been hampered by injuries. RJ should be further along.

He's always been more efficient than RJ almost automatically because he's a better 3PT shooter. We know that. Once again, these 8 games do not reflect what I said X months ago and I'm telling you Lauri ending up better this year is whatever.

How are you unsure of what I'm insinuating? I didn't tell you Randle and Brunson aren't good, the fact that they are good and have the responsibilities they have on the Knicks means that no, RJ does not have the same freedom as going to a bad team and being told "do you". My narrative is absolutely consistent.

Once again, I did not know a 19-22 year old player missing 10-12 games every year is "healthy". Healthier than Lauri? Yes. Healthy on its own merit? Not really.

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

Said that man could average 30 in the right situation and that the Cavs were title contenders with him and nikkas tried to say he's Colin Sexton with long arms smmfh.

That man should've been a Knick, now I gotta wince everytime RJ takes a jumpshot.

I said the Cavs were title contenders earlier in this thread and got laughed at

 

[A Pimp Named Slickback]

If they kept Garland, Mobley and Allen this is a championship roster

nikkas in Cleveland don’t even believe this

 

[ISO]

He's always been more efficient than RJ almost automatically because he's a better 3PT shooter. We know that. Once again, these 8 games do not reflect what I said X months ago and I'm telling you Lauri ending up better this year is whatever.

How are you unsure of what I'm insinuating? I didn't tell you Randle and Brunson aren't good, the fact that they are good and have the responsibilities they have on the Knicks means that no, RJ does not have the same freedom as going to a bad team and being told "do you". My narrative is absolutely consistent.

Once again, I did not know a 19-22 year old player missing 10-12 games every year is "healthy". Healthier than Lauri? Yes. Healthy on its own merit? Not really.

1. Yes, he’s been more efficient he’s been better.

2. RJ leads the Knicks in shot attempts. He has freedom on this team he doesn’t capitalize.

3. He has not had major injuries. The ‘20 season was shortened. RJ played 56 out of 63 possible games in ‘20. All 72 games in ‘21. And 70 out of 82 games last season. What you are saying is flat out incorrect.

 

[Shadow King]

1. Yes, he’s been more efficient he’s been better.

2. RJ leads the Knicks in shot attempts. He has freedom on this team he doesn’t capitalize.

3. He has not had major injuries. The ‘20 season was shortened. RJ played 56 out of 63 possible games in ‘20. All 72 games in ‘21. And 70 out of 82 games last season. What you are saying is flat out incorrect.

1. Once again, making more 3s makes you more efficient. He was not better.

2. I did not say he lacks freedom. I said does he have Lauri's freedom. The answer is no.

3. The Knicks played 66 games in '20, he missed 10. Everything else you are clearly agreeing with me. What I'm saying is not flat out incorrect.
Edit: '21 was 72 games, so you got that.

 

[ISO]

1. Once again, making more 3s makes you more efficient. He was not better.

2. I did not say he lacks freedom. I said does he have Lauri's freedom. The answer is no.

3. The Knicks played 66 games in '20, he missed 10. Everything else you are clearly agreeing with me. What I'm saying is not flat out incorrect.
Edit: '21 was 72 games, so you got that.

1. He’s been more efficient from every area of the floor throughout his career. Lauri is just more skilled and 7 feet.

2. Both Lauri and RJ take about the same amount of shots this year. Throughout his career RJ has shot more. They both have freedom Lauri is just capitalizing on his freedom.

3. Dude hasn’t been injured like that. His injuries are always minor, nagging ailments that players typically get.

 

[Shadow King]

1. He’s been more efficient from every area of the floor throughout his career. Lauri is just more skilled and 7 feet.

2. Both Lauri and RJ take about the same amount of shots this year. Throughout his career RJ has shot more. They both have freedom Lauri is just capitalizing on his freedom.

3. Dude hasn’t been injured like that. His injuries are always minor, nagging ailments that players typically get.

A 7 footer is supposed to shoot better at the rim tha a 6'6" player. Relative to his position he has not been special in the paint in his career.

Freedom is not simply FGA, but you know that.

I didn't know nagging injuries early in one's career makes them healthy, but okay.

 

[Street Knowledge]

The knicks coulda drafted him too

 

[42 Monks]

RJ isn't even better than Mathurin