The college scholarship illusion

[concise]

I wanted to make a post in here, but it will just get lost in this convo between 2 hotheads.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

If you think life is a competition to "figure it out" then you haven't figured out life This idiot thinks life is some competition to get enslaved by some conglomerate to 50 and 60 hr workweeks and an ok salary

Also, it isn't access to loan money but HOW much loan money. The GI bill was irresponsible in bloating the cost past what most could afford because wages didn't keep up with inflation.

ACTUALLY the tuition crisis can be focused on how easy it is to get loans.

schools have no incentive to cut tuition since the students will pay for it anyways.

Thats why if you're not on your shyt in High School, you'll pay dearly to attend college if your state doesn't have a decent program like HOPE or some lottery funded scholarship or whatever.

 

[Richard Wright]

@Napoleon @Poitier I hope yall realize your both right. This debate isnt going anywhere heading into the future, for society not just u two.
Theres a reason John Galt double majored in physics and philosophy.

 

[Wild self]

I actually evolved in both so far ( humanity& sanity ). Built relationships with people from different ethnicity and countries. So far being the only one that has a "ghetto" upbringing. And yes i am happy the avg starting pay is 70k ,also knowing that i have a degree that guarantees me into law and medical school...

What documentary got yall shook ?

Nah, I saw living examples of people that done that shyt strictly for a paycheck. He had to go to therapy and on medication simply cause he wanted to make his mom and dad happy.

 

[Poitier]

who said I thought it was "logical?"

Are we talking about how to win, or how to bytch and moan?

It'd be great if i could be a professional philosopher. I'd drag half you dudes under the table anyways

...but oh well..that doesn't afford me the life I want...so I'm supposed to do what I love now? Whats that? Sit at home, troll the internet, and read shyt on wikipedia next to a nude woman in bed? ...yeah... good luck with that.

You couldn't see me on your best day, gnat. A professional "philosopher" could be a politician, a lawyer, a social worker, etc. It's literally the most portable and base level tangible skill there is in society. Society exist because of the very people you are trying to diminish.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Well youre right but what im speaking from is more with an understanding of what college was intended to be. Like going back to the greek universities. Idk what the greek word it came from was but basically college was for people who were rich af and just wanted to think all day.

Calculus changed everything

well we can talk about what the bible was supposed to mean too, but that doesn't get us very far either, does it?

Look.

I get it.

people wanna validate their BS degrees and interests...just don't ask me to subsidize your efforts

 

[Poitier]

I'm done. Everyone else can get their say.

 

[Wild self]

ACTUALLY the tuition crisis can be focused on how easy it is to get loans.

schools have no incentive to cut tuition since the students will pay for it anyways.

Thats why if you're not on your shyt in High School, you'll pay dearly to attend college if your state doesn't have a decent program like HOPE or some lottery funded scholarship or whatever.

Nah, They should go after the schools that do it and pay back the people that paid too much for their tuition. Its a scam.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Tell CEOs to slash their annual bonuses,

I'm not touching this comment.

give then back to the employees,

see then we have to get into the whole "socialism" thing...i'm not touching this one right now.

give the employees more money to stimulate small businesses,

I don't even know why this would be a good idea...to a business owner

make small businesses easier to start up with lower interest rates,

yeah. i'm with that

pay off debt faster,

banks have no incentive to make this easier.

stop raising tuition/ slash it if it needs to be, and make more varied jobs for everyone to live an easier life.

So a lot of "demands"...but no solutions.

Must be nice to have "theories"

Guess that humanities degree worked out.

 

[Richard Wright]

well we can talk about what the bible was supposed to mean too, but that doesn't get us very far either, does it?

Look.

I get it.

people wanna validate their BS degrees and interests...just don't ask me to subsidize your efforts

first of all stop saying BS degree, BS means bachelor of science, the degree you say to get, and youre just speaking in terms of today when im trying to put you in perspective of why humanities exist in the first place. without philosophy, we dont have math. without the relationship beetween math and physics, you dont have sciences. Everything has its place.

I would never pay money for a non engineering degree though

 

[Richard Wright]

well we can talk about what the bible was supposed to mean too, but that doesn't get us very far either, does it?

Look.

I get it.

people wanna validate their BS degrees and interests...just don't ask me to subsidize your efforts

And hey man, its the College of arts and sciences subsidizing your labs, lmao

 

[Poitier]

first of all stop saying BS degree, BS means bachelor of science, the degree you say to get, and youre just speaking in terms of today when im trying to put you in perspective of why humanities exist in the first place. without philosophy, we dont have math. without the relationship beetween math and physics, you dont have sciences. Everything has its place.

I would never pay money for a non engineering degree though

If cost were not an issue would you get a degree in the humanities?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

They'll live a more fulfilled life than you,

define fulfilled? I'm about to be living a life that can afford me the experiences i want to have and grant me the security to take risks in other endeavors.

definitely. I'm not naive to think a person with a job in a tangible trade is going to do better,

but you're caping HARD.

if money is the only predictor, but I'm also informed enough to know that's because we live in country where the educational model is obtuse.

i'd love to know your solution here.

You talk about wanting "educated citizens" but don't wanna admit that you just want people who don't fit into some paradigm...which doesn't mean anything.

You have no macro view,

you'd be surprised.

you are a product of the external forces of the plutocrats who want idiots like you to go to school,

i'm about to be employed because no one else can do what I do. Keep trolling. I'm an asset, not a liability

get your major and work long hours thinking you did something, even though you work for someone else and don't own your own business or have any conception of what a fulfilling life really is about.

Its hilarious how little you know of me.

When i retire, i'll be more of the businessman than you thought you were in a field with such a high barrier to entry, you'll just complain that I didn't play fair.

Thats whats so funny here.

THERES LEVELS TO THIS shyt.

When are you gonna get that?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

And hey man, its the College of arts and sciences subsidizing your labs, lmao

Yep.

 

[Poitier]

. I'm an asset, not a liability

You are an asset.... TO SOMEBODY ELSE lol

and you will more than likely be the good ole asset you were trained to be in college because you don't have the proper base in the humanities

Good boy