As for Non-Hip Hop media rating a Hip Hop album, I see nothing wrong with it. If they rate all genres of music, why not drop a review on a Hip Hop album? Music is music, they don't have to be in tune with the culture to review an album. Now if they are dropping commentary on Hip Hop as a culture, that's a different story.
the critics sh!tting on MCHG.
- Thread starter Mike Otherz
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Eh.
MCHG is a quality, 4/5 album. Sure, it doesn't have the depth, insight or candidness of Reasonable Doubt or Blueprint, but there's something to be said for execution. His stunting raps are still dope, the conceptual songs are still pretty solid as far as how they deliver the concepts (even if they aren't "deep"), the flows are on point, he's still got some really rewindable lines with double/triple-entendres, and the production is dope. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him be even more thoughtful too, but let's not act like it's a weak album just because it isn't philosophical and shyt. It's not envelope-pushing, but it's still quality rap music at the end of the day. This, especially compared to albums like BP3 and Kingdom Come, is a project where he brings everything together really well
. There's a reason everyone is saying it's his best since Black Album; lots of people were hating on BP3, both then and now, so the whole "ohhhhhhhhh Jay stans love everything 
" argument doesn't apply.
As much as I want Jay to be more thoughtful/insightful, I really just need to accept the fact that he isn't Nas, Kendrick Lamar, old Talib, etc. That's just not who he is. He's still a well-rounded artist either way. On his songs like that, I'll just enjoy the cleverness and the concept execution - because both of those are always going to be on point - and be on my way.
I think Yeezus was an interesting project, but that critics went so crazy about it because it gave them an opportunity to indulge in their own egos as writers the same way as Kanye does with his music. That's not to say that the album doesn't deserve any of its acclaim, because I do think it's a quality record for the most part. But I think the minimalist approach from someone like Kanye makes critics/music nerds dig deeper for things on their own, that people give Kanye the benefit of the doubt since he's already seen as uber-creative, and that people are so happy to see him experiment that they want to praise it.
MCHG is a quality, 4/5 album. Sure, it doesn't have the depth, insight or candidness of Reasonable Doubt or Blueprint, but there's something to be said for execution. His stunting raps are still dope, the conceptual songs are still pretty solid as far as how they deliver the concepts (even if they aren't "deep"), the flows are on point, he's still got some really rewindable lines with double/triple-entendres, and the production is dope. Don't get me wrong, I'd like to see him be even more thoughtful too, but let's not act like it's a weak album just because it isn't philosophical and shyt. It's not envelope-pushing, but it's still quality rap music at the end of the day. This, especially compared to albums like BP3 and Kingdom Come, is a project where he brings everything together really well
. There's a reason everyone is saying it's his best since Black Album; lots of people were hating on BP3, both then and now, so the whole "ohhhhhhhhh Jay stans love everything " argument doesn't apply.As much as I want Jay to be more thoughtful/insightful, I really just need to accept the fact that he isn't Nas, Kendrick Lamar, old Talib, etc. That's just not who he is. He's still a well-rounded artist either way. On his songs like that, I'll just enjoy the cleverness and the concept execution - because both of those are always going to be on point - and be on my way.
I think Yeezus was an interesting project, but that critics went so crazy about it because it gave them an opportunity to indulge in their own egos as writers the same way as Kanye does with his music. That's not to say that the album doesn't deserve any of its acclaim, because I do think it's a quality record for the most part. But I think the minimalist approach from someone like Kanye makes critics/music nerds dig deeper for things on their own, that people give Kanye the benefit of the doubt since he's already seen as uber-creative, and that people are so happy to see him experiment that they want to praise it.
spliz
SplizThaDon
Ur setting urself up for failure if this is what u expect from this album..I'm tellin u right now..
spliz
SplizThaDon
onlything i'll say is at least its better then bp3
It is...BUT...Thank You>>>>>>this whole album...
OnlyInCalifornia
Southern California/Vegas
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MouseTeeth
All Star
Who fukkin cares?
this is true. but you missed one key point. This time around. this album was rushed. and you can tell it was rushed. great beats, lyrics are decent enough for this era of wack rap. but he could've easily had better jigga like SONGS with a better story line in each song. but you cant do that in a couple of weeks of recording if you didnt walk in with this great idea of what you were going to do on this album.
i think samsung hit him up, or his people hit up samsung about an idea like this. to get paid upfront for a mil copies. and that was all the pre thought that went on for this album. he did it. made history,and threw some songs together. i think if he knows this opportunity is coming around again next year, that next album will be more in line with what jay stans want to hear. vs him giving you a light weight rushed product.
Professor Polo
80s Baby
Don't nobody worry about what cacs think of rap, but you're the first to use albums sales (mostly bought by white people) in an argument as to why Jay is still relevant...
yesiambowling
Pro
3/5 or a B is considered a positive score.
I done road with Jigga many of summers, but damn this shyt was weak
not Yeezus status, but it was just weak.
The joint with Ross is tuff tho
not Yeezus status, but it was just weak.
The joint with Ross is tuff tho
@ shytting on MCHG and praising YeezusBoth are weak discs and in the bottom halves of both rappers' catalogs
if the responses were reversed.