The DNC is colluding against Bernie

[Donald J Trump]

Bernie alienates too many voters. Biden is boring but voters like boring. Trump vs Bernie would be embarrassing. He’d destroy Bernie by calling him a socialist and dragging him through the mud. Not so sure he’d have as easy a time with Biden.

Voters like boring eh Biden not winning in a debate versus a fast talking New Yorker

 

[rapbeats]

Bernie alienates too many voters. Biden is boring but voters like boring. Trump vs Bernie would be embarrassing. He’d destroy Bernie by calling him a socialist and dragging him through the mud. Not so sure he’d have as easy a time with Biden.

bernie alienates selfish voters as he should. he alienates the super rich selfish people and the super corporations holding all the money up. as ...he ...should.

who doesnt bernie alienate? Young voters that pay attention to things outside of MSNBC, CNN, and Fox news, he doesnt alienate the middle, lower class workers, he doesnt alienate actual unions rank and file members, he doesnt alienate people in jail that shouldnt be there or those that should but deserve the right to vote since they did not lose their citizenship, he doesnt alienate anyone who is not selfish and actually cares about his or her neighbor(s)/fellow citizens.

 

[Mr Hate Coffee]

Endorsements are overrated. Bernie endorsed Hillary and his ardent supporters were like I'm already seeing Mayor Pete's supporters give the to Biden

 

[rapbeats]

FDR was as establishment as it gets, his family history alone would have made him toxic based on today's standards. He was also willing to compromise with Southern Democrats on issues such as the anti-lynching bill and exclusion of certain professions that happened to be black dominated from social security

you do realize bernie has many times said he's coming with FDR like policies. thats what bernie has said out of his own mouth. every time someone tries to call his ideas radical he points to other westernized countries and to FDR to prove that his ideas are live and well in these other countries today.and that these ideas are the same/similar ideas from the past.


https://www.history.com/topics/great-depression/new-deal

...
Roosevelt’s quest to end the Great Depression was just beginning, and would ramp up in what came to be known as “The First 100 Days.” Roosevelt kicked things off by asking Congress to take the first step toward ending Prohibition – one of the more divisive issues of the 1920s – by making it legal once again for Americans to buy beer. (At the end of the year, Congress ratified the 21st Amendment and ended Prohibition for good.)

In May, he signed the Tennessee Valley Authority Act into law, creating the TVA and enabling the federal government to build dams along the Tennessee River that controlled flooding and generated inexpensive hydroelectric power for the people in the region.

^^^Sounds like bernie making weed legal on the federal level. and sounds like guaranteed government jobs fixing/updating our crumbling infrastructure in addition to a green new deal

June’s National Industrial Recovery Act guaranteed that workers would have the right to unionize and bargain collectively for higher wages and better working conditions; it also suspended some antitrust laws and established a federally funded Public Works Administration.

Sounds like bernie fighting to create more unions and increase union membership to have it back to the way it was years ago. more union power = higher wages/better benefits for not only union workers but also private sector workers. because when a union worker doing the same job as the private worker can get paid X amt per hour. that becomes the going rate for said job even without the union. but most people dont even know that.

Go back and re-read your history. not just you, but all of you. bernie aint saying nothing new in reality. we've done this before. and its time to do it again.

 

[TallMan_J]

here is one.

Your dumb bytch ass thinks he can't win without appealing to middle of the road voters while trump is literally burning the middle of the road and banking 100% of his BASE AND HIS BASE ALONE. He could give a shyt about moderation yet if he is favored, you clearly think moderation won't win.

It's one or the other. You can't say trump will beat bernie because bernie cant court moderates while trump doesnt give a fukk about moderates but then on the flip side say moderates can beat trump and worry about liberals not showing up making moderates lose.

Both can't be the reality.

I've been reading your responses, and I gotta say this shyt.....

You are extremely toxic, breh. Most Bernie supporters (like yourself) are no better than MAGAs. Bernie Bros are the "progressive" version of MAGA Trump supporters. People have the right to have their own opinions and people have the option to support who they choose. You don't have to go around disrespecting fellow Black people for their opinions, as long as they are not c00ning etc. You can conduct discourse with other Black Men without being disrespectful.

It's a shame too, because I've watched some of your "Black Sands" project and I think that it is amazing. But if you are the creator or owner of Black Sands, you are making your brand look really sketchy. You have the Black Sands picture of your project in your avi, links to donate all in your signature, yet you're on here disrespecting and belittling fellow Black people because they do not support the same old White man that you do. That is sad, embarrassing, and borderline c00n-like. I can understand you supporting him, but no self respecting Black Man should be caping for an old White politician like that. Nikkas did the same thing with Obama and he didn't do a fukking thing of significance for the Black populace (did a whole lot for LGBT, though).

It's so sad that I almost put you on ignore, because I didn't want to affiliate such toxic behavior with the Black Sands project. I've stated my peace and I hope that you do not take offense. But based on your previous responses in this thread, if you respond at all, I expect it to be irrational.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

Nobody is screwing Bernie but Bernie! That's the thing. Dudes wanna heap all kinds on blame on Hillary for this this and the third but Bernie never does anything wrong.


The voters failed Hillary ultimately. To me it always comes down to voters. The advantage the Republicans have is they realize it's a political war they need to win. With Democrats they have to be in love with their candidate.Has to appeal to everyone and at the same time appeal to certain groups. All The Damn Time! Republicans will vote for whoever. They don't mind holding their nose. The Left has to be in love. We aren't in war mode across the board. It comes down to voters. How can all the power be in your hands and yet deflect when a loss happens?

Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. I'm of the mindset that Sanders was always a losing proposition and what we are seeing with Biden wod always play out as leader of the moderates. Elections are about time and place in the world. Where are we at as a country. What is our biggest goal? Removal of Trump. That's it, full stop. This is not to say Bernie and his platform are flawed but it isn't going to win a national nomination right now. Change is incremental throughout history and most people, myself included, are not trying to hear all of the pie in the sky stuff being said because it won't go over well with the masses. This election is about electability. Maybe in twenty years, with a slow escalation of policies that makes a platform like Bernie has more palatable for people to digest but you are asking people to count to ten by fives by voting for Bernie and by ones by voting for a moderate. One is a shock to the system, one is not. Most of these polls you see are a loud and vocal minority screaming about Bernie and does not represent the masses.

Even as an aside, have you ever wondered why every single gop person seems to be rooting for Bernie, why Russia wants Bernie to win the nomination?





Or even telling people to vote for Bernie in the primaries.



It's because Bernie has been (correctly) identified as a weak candidate and the Republicans are on their art of war shyt. Trump hasn't been all over the world looking for dirt on Bernie like he did Biden. He's "cheering" for him in twitter. Big contrast.

Sometimes, the truth is going to end up revealing itself and smack you in the face. Instead of being mad that it smacked you, figure out why it's smacking you and move accordingly. This election is about electability. Biden is ridiculously flawed as a candidate and I'll hold my nose voting for him in November, knowing we have a chance. You won't get that same comfort with Bernie at the booth.

 

[Stone Cold]

Democrats fall in love, Republicans fall in line. I'm of the mindset that Sanders was always a losing proposition and what we are seeing with Biden wod always play out as leader of the moderates. Elections are about time and place in the world. Where are we at as a country. What is our biggest goal? Removal of Trump. That's it, full stop. This is not to say Bernie and his platform are flawed but it isn't going to win a national nomination right now. Change is incremental throughout history and most people, myself included, are not trying to hear all of the pie in the sky stuff being said because it won't go over well with the masses. This election is about electability. Maybe in twenty years, with a slow escalation of policies that makes a platform like Bernie has more palatable for people to digest but you are asking people to count to ten by fives by voting for Bernie and by ones by voting for a moderate. One is a shock to the system, one is not. Most of these polls you see are a loud and vocal minority screaming about Bernie and does not represent the masses.

Even as an aside, have you ever wondered why every single gop person seems to be rooting for Bernie, why Russia wants Bernie to win the nomination?





Or even telling people to vote for Bernie in the primaries.



It's because Bernie has been (correctly) identified as a weak candidate and the Republicans are on their art of war shyt. Trump hasn't been all over the world looking for dirt on Bernie like he did Biden. He's "cheering" for him in twitter. Big contrast.

Sometimes, the truth is going to end up revealing itself and smack you in the face. Instead of being mad that it smacked you, figure out why it's smacking you and move accordingly. This election is about electability. Biden is ridiculously flawed as a candidate and I'll hold my nose voting for him in November, knowing we have a chance. You won't get that same comfort with Bernie at the booth.

You know how much intel Giuliani got on Biden? Trump wants Biden more than anything

Right now Trump is trying to attract Bernie voters for the general election when they eventually cheat him out of the nomination. He’s going to release the flutes once Biden becomes the nominee now that he’s been acquitted and free to talk shyt

 

[Unemployed GM]

Bernie isn't really a true Democrat, but he's running as one.

The Millennials and Gen Z can get mad all they want, if those Super Pacs don't support you then you aren't getting the nomination. They put in unlimited funding and material behind what they want. A lot people in the Millennial and Gen Z crowd didn't pay attention to politics before 2008 when Obama came along and it shows at times.

I personally don't care which guy the Dems run either would be a better option than what's currently in the executive branch. I liked Warren as a candidate, but she hasn't polled well and it is probably going to be apparent after tomorrow that this is a two man race.

Middle aged and old Blacks aren't fooling with Bernie neither or moderates and center left Democrats. That shyt starts to matter when you hit that fly over country most inhabited by rednecks and middle aged to older Black folks.

I agree with you. But why do older blacks mess with Biden and Bloomberg?

 

[Pressure]

Dems will lose a whole generation of voters if they oust Bernie

Can't oust a nikka who isn't in the party.

 

[Trece]

Of course they are.... Bernie’s is a populist with extreme views just like Trump.

Bernie’s socialist policies to other rich corporate Dems is how rich republicans felt about Trump wanting to build a wall and keep out all their slave labor...

This is true- slave labor drives down wages..

Bernie used to be in favor of hard immigration enforcement because of this reason. Not sure why he wants to open the borders and give everyone who comes over free shyt (jobs, college and healthcare). That is not going to drive wages up for everyone else.

Tax the hell out the rich though.

 

[NkrumahWasRight Is Wrong]

negged for comparing FDR to Bernie Sanders...ya'll need help.

Top marginal tax rate under fdr was 94%

 

[Rarely-Wrong Liggins]

Bernie alienates too many voters. Biden is boring but voters like boring. Trump vs Bernie would be embarrassing. He’d destroy Bernie by calling him a socialist and dragging him through the mud. Not so sure he’d have as easy a time with Biden.

Are you serious? Biden was DEAD until black people in SC breathed life back into him. Nothing is certain with Biden. You all need to kill that electability nonsense. Hillary was electable too.

 

[iceberg_is_on_fire]

GOP knows who they want to run against them.

 

[Harry B]

The party will always have one of the sides as their favorites, just like the republicans went against Trump in 16 and McCain and Keyes in 2000.

Just like you will always support one candidate, if you only have one choice it is what it is, no biggie

 

[Jalether]

This country is going to continue to get what it deserves until it becomes nothing more than a footnote in history. I can tell a lot of you are going to be taken by surprise when this happens.

America is going to have the honor of watching it's youth suffer immensely. Seriously, some of you will see your children/grandchildren die in horrible ways. Or you'll wish for their deaths, as relief.

You'll look back and say, "We should have gotten in line behind the guy with the juice, like the GOP did with Trump." Policy change that was only openly discussed on the fringes a decade ago is now a strong possibility if not reality in many cases.

The left will always be losers. They have the right ideas but are handicapped because being "right" is more important than seeing your right ideas become a reality in their eyes. The Republicans have the levers of power and a dwindling but rabid base. The Democrats have the "moral high ground," Twitter hot takes and clapbacks, and the vast majority of the population on their side and they can't do a thing with it.

The fact that Trump won in the first place was a reflection of the impotence of the party. The fact that Trump will have four years of unmatched corruption, incompetence, apathy and political malevolence behind him and he even has a SLIGHT chance, let alone the very REAL chance he has at reelection, shows that the Democratic party needs to be blown up and rebuilt from the ground up.

This is a brilliant post. couldn't have said it better myself