The Downfall of HipHop began when...
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nikka got Big killed and then went on to usher in the pop era of music 
fukk that nikka from the bottom of my heartThere were several turning points. The worst, by far was gangsta rap. Pac dying was another, not at all because of what he stood for but because his absence opened the lane for straight garbage and subpar southern wack rap. Your wankstas wouldn't have come up. Your master P's and stuff. Cash money brothers or whoever baby an them claim to be. Your Ja Rules and 50's.
When pac died it went into a coma. When biggie died after pac. Hip hop was done...
<<TheStandard>>
I Am A God
To me it was around 96/97 when you started to see the clear divide between "Mainstream" music and "underground". I still don't quite understand........whether it was Puffy and Bad Boy's takeover but you had rappers feeling like they had to floss, sell out and what not in order to sell records. This is what hurt the genre. I think there was a large divide between people who said fukk it I'm gonna pretend to be an Italian Mobster, drink champagne in every video, floss and the guys who just wanted to keep it real. Which is why NaS got so much hate from his transition for Nasty to Nas to Nas Escobar. I think Rawkus kept the spirit alive for a bit.......but for the most part it was a wrap.
Look at this Mic Geronimo Record....Nothing Move But the Money
It's nothing more than a ridiculous cookie cutter Puff produced single meant to generate sales. Mic Geronimo was a damn good MC but this is what rappers were forced into doing if they wanted to keep a career.
You even saw Jay-Z try to fit in with this goofy shyt
Look at this video B.....WTF part of the game is this.
and making records like this (which I love, but still.....coming from Reasonable Doubt you knew what he was doing when he did this shyt)
It's like Puff figured out the formula to sell the most records and instead of labels being happy with the gold artist or whatever, letting artists do them, rap became a popularity contest of who can sell the most. I'm not blaming Puff but any means, everything associated with him and his label for the most part has been dope and has lived up to a certain standard.....I do think his actions opened pandoras box.
Look at this Mic Geronimo Record....Nothing Move But the Money
It's nothing more than a ridiculous cookie cutter Puff produced single meant to generate sales. Mic Geronimo was a damn good MC but this is what rappers were forced into doing if they wanted to keep a career.
You even saw Jay-Z try to fit in with this goofy shyt
Look at this video B.....WTF part of the game is this.
and making records like this (which I love, but still.....coming from Reasonable Doubt you knew what he was doing when he did this shyt)
It's like Puff figured out the formula to sell the most records and instead of labels being happy with the gold artist or whatever, letting artists do them, rap became a popularity contest of who can sell the most. I'm not blaming Puff but any means, everything associated with him and his label for the most part has been dope and has lived up to a certain standard.....I do think his actions opened pandoras box.
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<<TheStandard>>
I Am A God
I also think Master P kind of introduced a drug dealer 2 for 5 like mentality that kinda cheapened the genre...
i came REEEAL close to puttin puff on there too, because of the shiny suit shyt as well, but brehs..i can't even lie...i was feelin some of that shyt lol
remember The lox & mase are both products, or rather became more famous,becuz of that shiny era..
remember The lox & mase are both products, or rather became more famous,becuz of that shiny era..
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Well... Mackelmore's Grammy win was proof that Hip Hop has been completely white washed
isn't that now?
SuburbanPimp
Giving game to lames since the 90s
When the Internet era took over.... Once all albums began leaking and ANYBODY could drop a mixtape/album.....
The quality of the music began to drop. It became more a having a hit song/ringtone than having a soild body of work.... Rap Groups started dying, videos stopped being played. Rappers started beefing on social media than on songs.
I would say sometime between 04-07 when the downfall began
The quality of the music began to drop. It became more a having a hit song/ringtone than having a soild body of work.... Rap Groups started dying, videos stopped being played. Rappers started beefing on social media than on songs.
I would say sometime between 04-07 when the downfall began
after this song dropped is when the south took over and NYC lost its identity.