The "expensive" car game is dead brehs.............

[88m3]

Buy a used Benz.



Have to twist my arm to buy a new one.

 

[edzyy]

Replacement parts for a high-end luxury sedan is still gonna be expensive

Agreed for the most part

Most wear & tear items aren't as expensive, though.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

The depreciation on older luxury cars is bad for new car buyers and great for used car buyers. Rich folks spend money like it grows on trees. They will eat the depreciation in lieu of looking good when driving around town. And, they can't look good if their car is 3 years old or older.
For middle class folks, these cars are steals. You get the same luxurious interior as they put in new luxury cars. The engine and parts are worn a bit. The cost of maintenance is higher if you go to a dealership. It's going to have more problems than a new car. If you can fix it on your own, then great. Cost of labor is $0 unless you have to go out and buy a tool you don't have. Cost of parts? It can get expensive compared to domestic cars. So for upper-lower income folks, these cars aren't a steal as maintenance can be the tipping point to going in the red.
This is why I don't want a BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Land Rover, or Jaguar. If my replacement parts cost as much as a used, nice motorcycle, I feel like I'm getting prison raped.

Rich people don't buy these cars, they lease them. Mercedes used to overengineer the hell out of cars so they lasted forever- durability was a luxury back then, so that's what it built its reputation on.

Now since most of their customers just lease they design the cars to last that long. Beyond that youre on your own And u BETTER have a 5 figure stash for potential repairs

 

[Captain]

MB vehicles of recent don't age well at all compared to the other German makers, it might even be intentional, planned obsolescence to separate their real customer base from the Mr me too. Their dramatic remodeling of the line-up year after year throws the previous gen cars in the bushes.

 

[GuChiMeng]

Rich people don't buy these cars, they lease them.

Nah, that's what middle class/20 something y/o people do to flex on everybody.

That said, I ain't even got my eyes on a German. I just want a Subaru STi.

 

[Scientific Playa]

The depreciation on older luxury cars is bad for new car buyers and great for used car buyers. Rich folks spend money like it grows on trees. They will eat the depreciation in lieu of looking good when driving around town. And, they can't look good if their car is 3 years old or older.
For middle class folks, these cars are steals. You get the same luxurious interior as they put in new luxury cars. The engine and parts are worn a bit. The cost of maintenance is higher if you go to a dealership. It's going to have more problems than a new car. If you can fix it on your own, then great. Cost of labor is $0 unless you have to go out and buy a tool you don't have. Cost of parts? It can get expensive compared to domestic cars. So for upper-lower income folks, these cars aren't a steal as maintenance can be the tipping point to going in the red.
This is why I don't want a BMW, Mercedes-Benz, Land Rover, or Jaguar. If my replacement parts cost as much as a used, nice motorcycle, I feel like I'm getting prison raped.

recently a tint shop owner told me he's been trading in and upgrading to new bmw models every 5 to 7 months and beating the depreciation game. i don't think he was giving me a ducktale. he told me it's a business decision and influences his high end customers.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

MB vehicles of recent don't age well at all compared to the other German makers, it might even be intentional, planned obsolescence to separate their real customer base from the Mr me too. Their dramatic remodeling of the line-up year after year throws the previous gen cars in the bushes.

I think BMW strikes the perfect balance. Audis age TOO well and have TOO long of a model cycle.

The planned obsolescence thing is real though. Most expensive German cars, but especially Benzes, are built to just last through a 3 year lease, if that.

Nah, that's what middle class/20 something y/o people do to flex on everybody.

That said, I ain't even got my eyes on a German. I just want a Subaru STi.

Im telling you. Nobody is buying a brand new S-Class. The lease game is HEAVY

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

recently a tint shop owner told me he's been trading in and upgrading to new bmw models every 5 to 7 months and beating the depreciation game. i don't think he was giving me a ducktale. he told me it's a business decision and influences his high end customers.

I feel like the first year is where the worst depreciation happens. Maybe not tho

 

[Captain]

I think BMW strikes the perfect balance. Audis age TOO well and have TOO long of a model cycle.

The planned obsolescence thing is real though. Most expensive German cars, but especially Benzes, are built to just last through a 3 year lease, if that.

Im telling you. Nobody is buying a brand new S-Class. The lease game is HEAVY

If you look at just the E class, there have been 2 complete redesigns just the last 5 years not a mid-cycle face lift other makers do but a complete overhall of the car, which of course makes previous gen look outdated hence the nose dive in price.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

If you look at just the E class, there have been 2 complete redesigns just the last 5 years not a mid-cycle face lift other makers do but a complete overhall of the car, which of course makes previous gen look outdated hence the nose dive in price.

The 2013 redesign was a strong facelift. Stil the W212 or whatever it is. Made that 2010 model look like a 2000 one, they went too far

Makes sense from their point of view. When that new model came out u had to upgrade. Ching ching!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[edzyy]

No one likes the older models?

E46 m3?
E39 m5?

Those are classics with timeless designs.

 

[Ricky Church]

No one likes the older models?

E46 m3?
E39 m5?

Those are classics with timeless designs.

fake ballers that want to "stunt" and rich people who need to keep up appearances are the only ones who really care about the new models year after year.

you can get an older E36 M3 and still feel like you won. like you said those are cars that are timeless. same goes for old model Audi's and Benz's... these aren't Dodge Neon's we're dealing with here.

 

[TLR Is Mental Poison]

No one likes the older models?

E46 m3?
E39 m5?

Those are classics with timeless designs.

O yea, those cars are GOAT status. No different from an E30 M3 or W124 500E. But those are well beyond the "fake baller" realm, way too old. If I could swing 15 MPG I would def mess with either of those cars.

 

[HookersandIceCream]

People and their hyperboles

http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-inte...s-are-sizzling-but-gm-has-a-cadillac-problem/

Caddy’s negative contribution to GM’s sales performance contrasts the role Audi is playing at Volkswagen AGVOW3.XE +2.97% in the U.S. VW, aiming to be the biggest auto maker in the world, is struggling to sell Volkswagen-branded vehicles in the U.S., but Audis are flying off dealer lots. Through August, Volkswagen sold 116,066 Audi vehicles, or about 2,000 more vehicles than Cadillac sold through eight months. Overall, VW sales are down 6% in the U.S., but the performance would be much worse without Audi’s 15% increase over the period.

 

[GuChiMeng]

People and their hyperboles

http://blogs.wsj.com/corporate-inte...s-are-sizzling-but-gm-has-a-cadillac-problem/

Caddy’s negative contribution to GM’s sales performance contrasts the role Audi is playing at Volkswagen AGVOW3.XE +2.97% in the U.S. VW, aiming to be the biggest auto maker in the world, is struggling to sell Volkswagen-branded vehicles in the U.S., but Audis are flying off dealer lots. Through August, Volkswagen sold 116,066 Audi vehicles, or about 2,000 more vehicles than Cadillac sold through eight months. Overall, VW sales are down 6% in the U.S., but the performance would be much worse without Audi’s 15% increase over the period.

Not even remotely surprising. Over half the reason people get German is to brag that they have one (IMO), and ain't nobody bragging about having a VW.