The Illusion and Luster of Alpha Male in has Ruined Black Men, Black Women and Ultimately the Black Family.

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

I know where you’re coming from but if we surveyed other females here I bet you’d be surprised on their answers

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Would you look down on your significant other if he made less money(or none at all) than you but kept your house and spirit at peace?

No offense but I prefer to stay out of these debates in here lately, Respectfully

 

[jay83]

Been noticing this as well as I get older. A Black man with an obvious level of intelligence still has to have an "edge" to him to be respected by many Black women and OTHER Black men.

Tupac's skill and lyricism alone wasn't enough, it was the "thug" image he portrayed that aided his success. This theme has continued for modern-day rappers.

A community activist can't simply earn respect by helping out and warning against gang culture, he needs to have prior experience in the streets to be taken seriously by "the hood".

A straight-laced, no-nonsense Black man, whether working class or professional, blue collar or white collar, is still viewed as "boring" or "lame" by many in our community (particularly under the age of 30), but trappers and scammers are respected for "getting it out of the mud".

I'm noticing a growing number of Black men my age who no longer feel pressured to act out the stereotypes that the men before us did, which gives me a sliver of hope, however the future still looks bleak.

We need to take a concerted effort to rip the control of the American Black man's image out of the hands of rappers, athletes, and entertainers. Otherwise, the blemishes will never be wiped away.

In my late 30s and I can’t hang with people who use the n word a lot. Feels like I’m losing IQ points. A lot of grown folks are acting childish though. That’s why I despise many you tubers. They are in their 40s and 30s still acting like high school kids. What examples to the youth do we have to show when many adults are thirst trapping, beefing, and in their second childhood anyway?

 

[MMS]

Wolf packs don't actually have alpha males and alpha females, the idea is based on a misunderstanding

This alpha/beta male talk is childish and smacks of insecurity

I know we went back and forth on it but ironically it’s a higher level pattern of African belief systems dealing with its sons/daughters(Asia and Europe)

That’s why I say I’m pro-Min. Folk think sky daddy but I think of it as darth Vader in my trousers

The ability to fire game changing seed into the dialogue is what changes human history

All that wolf lion carnivore shyt just creates cannabalistic mindsets

 

[MMS]

No offense but I prefer to stay out of these debates in here lately, Respectfully

It’s no prob, do you and I hope you are well beloved

 

[Kenny West]

That’s not just true.

They just know better not to choose you

At least I have your mother to fall back on

 

[Nkrumah Was Right]

I know we went back and forth on it but ironically it’s a higher level pattern of African belief systems dealing with its sons/daughters(Asia and Europe)

That’s why I say I’m pro-Min. Folk think sky daddy but I think of it as darth Vader in my trousers

The ability to fire game changing seed into the dialogue is what changes human history

All that wolf lion carnivore shyt just creates cannabalistic mindsets

What African belief system(s) in particular?

 

[The Fade]

For real.

That era of black men born after the Civil Rights/Black Pride movement but before the 90s fukked us over bad.

You can’t even talk to most of those nikkas about anything outside of sports, entertainment or women.

Hell, you even see it on here.

The first thing those old lames will say if they disagree with you is “you don’t get p*ssy” or “you must be suburban”.

A bunch of second childhood ass nikkas.

The Freaknik Gen

 

[RickyDiBiase]

At least I have your mother to fall back on

My mother prefers military men. Men of stature and responsibility. Not pathetic, whiny lil fakkits who wanna flea the country cause they can’t get a chick to respect them.

You’re unfukkable, cause you’re you.

 

[ObsidianDev]

Our underbelly is not supposed to always represent our Overworld

This is what's so damn frustrating about our community.

Look at the Chinese and Japanese, whether in America or in their respective countries. Out in public and online they put forth an image of being hard-working and studious, i.e. "noble".

Behind the scenes however, their underworlds are ruled by the Triads and the Yakuza engaging in organized crime via drug trafficking, sex trafficking (i.e. Asian massage parlors), and counterfeiting.

Yet, you don't see young Asian males getting Yakuza-style tattoos or yelling shyt like "TRIAD GANG!", or Asian women saying they need a "gokudo boy" on camera or online for the whole world to see.

 

[Kenny West]

My mother prefers military men. Men of stature and responsibility. Not pathetic, whiny lil fakkits who wanna flea the country cause they can’t get a chick to respect them.

You’re unfukkable, cause you’re you.

So ya mom single, GOT IT. Though I could have guessed that two interactions ago

 

[Stuntone]

In my late 30s and I can’t hang with people who use the n word a lot. Feels like I’m losing IQ points. A lot of grown folks are acting childish though. That’s why I despise many you tubers. They are in their 40s and 30s still acting like high school kids. What examples to the youth do we have to show when many adults are thirst trapping, beefing, and in their second childhood anyway?

The problem is, the Youth, Thugs, Celebrities dictate what's cool in our communities, these are far from the brightest of us. Actually the brightest and wise leave our communities.

 

[old pig]

No other Men desires to be Alphas (Thug Alpha) as much as Black Men.

No other Women desire to be with an Alpha as much as Black Women, many of our women go to their graves refusing to settle for anything other than a Alpha.

your argument is based solely on wild/loose conjecture

 

[MMS]

What African belief system(s) in particular?

Min, Resheph, Iwnt(“The Holy Temple”)

At any time you can bring fertility or you can bring destruction, the woman is either giving you time extensions or time contraction(cyclical vs static eternities)

The biblical David was aware of Min. Both are powerful perspectives but only one keeps possibility open and probability on your side

We are living in a world of illusion

A lot of good stuff in sufi mysticism too: The Sufi imagination – Mark Vernon “So praise to the One Who remains unknowable, so He is not known – and Who is known, so that He is not unknown!” Ibn ‘Arabi exclaims in a typically paradoxical theophany. :patrice::bryan: this is what im currently...

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Considering this context it’s obvious why Moses, Jesus and Muhammad’s metaphysical seed is so prevalent. Basically the temple has spoken to what she will propagate, and he who remembers the Lord God and his seed will always keep a blessing

 

[ObsidianDev]

The problem is, the Youth, Thugs, Celebrities dictate what's cool in our communities, these are far from the brightest of us. Actually the brightest and wise leave our communities.

What's crazy when you think about is that every other group has their adolescent heroes/idols, but they eventually GROW out of it past like age 21.

Any older dudes on here have any insight into when this Peter Pan syndrome shyt started happening to us? Black men specifically?

 

[badboys11]

The "alpha male" concept is a myth. It doesn't exist. One scientist observed a wolfpack and made some assumptions that turned out not to be true. I don't know how the idea took off and became so popular but here we are.

A real man provides for himself, his loved ones and his community

There is nothing "alpha" about selling poison to drug addicts. I live in a community surrounded by drug dealers selling on street corners. All it takes is one white man in a police car and they scatter like roaches. What the hell is tough about that?

Real men don't wait in unemployment lines or work in labor pools. We have legitimate jobs and when the police roll through my neighborhood I stand right there and watch them. That's "alpha"

A conversation needs to be had about how retarded most modern woman have become in today's dating game, they stuck on stupid. If your a "babys momma" it means your a failure not only to yourself but your children. As a man, if I have a "baby momma" and not a wife, it means that man failed in one of the most critical aspects of being a man.

But what do I know speaking as a man who manages a finance office and operates a very successful business on the weekends. A woman tells me to assault someone for disrespecting her she won't be my woman anymore, more similar to a wild animal than a human being. Which is where this whole "alpha" concept came from