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Flywin Lannister

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I'm getting the Coli ready because the Jokic conversations as a Top 10 player of all-time will start soon and he deserves to be in the conversation. Jokic's resume and accolades will compare favorably to all the timers. He has 3 MVP's, more than Shaq, Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, Steph, etc. LeBron has 4 and MJ has 5. Jokic has a chance to pass them in MVP's. By the time Jokic's career ends, a lot of your favorite players will get be in the same convo as Jokic like Magic, Bird, Shaq, Steph, Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, Wilt, etc.
Top 10 players of all time are measured in

Rings
NBA Finals MVPs

Jokic could get 10 regular season MVPs. Sure the media will announce to us that this white man os the GOAT.

No.

MJ is and for a long time (likely forever) will be the GOAT.

6 RINGS
6x NBA FINALS MVP

Perfect example of being the best in the regular season not equaling greatness: The regular season is just the “are you good enough to be in the Playoffs?” test. Cavs and Spida dominated the East and just got sent home by a bunch of annoying kids from Indiana.
 
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Top 10 players of all time are measured in

Rings
NBA Finals MVPs


Jokic could get 10 regular season MVPs. Sure the media will announce to us that this white man os the GOAT.

No.

MJ is and for a long time (likely forever) will be the GOAT.

6 RINGS
6x NBA FINALS MVP

Perfect example of being the best in the regular season not equaling greatness: The regular season is just the “are you good enough to be in the Playoffs?” test. Cavs and Spida dominated the East and just got sent home by a bunch of annoying kids from Indiana.
No they’re not. That’s just shyt y’all think is the only thing that matters.

There’s more to all-time rankings than just rings and Finals MVPs.

It’s patently ridiculous to compare Jokic’s regular season dominance to Donovan Mitchell’s, as if it hasn’t translated to the playoffs. Jokic has already proven to be one of the greatest postseason performers ever, not just at his position, but players, period.
 

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I don’t understand why it would be uncomfortable.
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People have Curry in the top ten (I do). Wilt, Russell, Shaq and Kobe are all getting pushed out if they aren’t already out the top ten.
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I don’t think KD will get there even if he gets another title somehow. Giannis could have a chance but I see him going down hill soon. Plus if he gets to the Spurs, he might end up Wemby’s Robin if they get a chip.

Realistically that only leaves Joker as a possible top ten guy. Honestly, one more ring plus another MVP might put him there. That would push him passed Shaq and Kobe if you have them in your top ten.

I personally still have Wilt and Russell in my top ten.

MJ
Bron
Kareem
Magic
Bird
Duncan
Curry
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Are all Teflon. The last three spots are between Shaq, Kobe, Wilt, Russell, and Hakeem (I think Hakeem isn’t top ten worthy but many Coli Brehs do).

A current uncomfortable question is has Joker surpassed Hakeem as his career stands.
:lupe:
Has Joker already passed Giannis and KD?
:patrice:
@murksiderock thoughts?
 

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Jokic is top 10 to me.

The Jokic-Murray duo when they’re both playing at their best is crazy.
 

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Either is top 10 but they're right next to each other to me
Who comes out of the top ten?

My top ten would be:

MJ
Kareem
LeBron
Magic
Russell

Duncan
Shaq
Bird
Kobe
Wilt

All have more rings, and the bold have equal to or more MVPs than both Giannis and Jokic. Steph belongs on that list before we get to Giannis or Jokic. Moses Malone has the same credentials as Jokic (3 MVPs and one ring). Hakeem only has one MVP, but he’s a back to back champion with two DPOYS and one of three players to win an MVP and DPOY in the same season (he’s the only to win a championship that season).
 

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Who comes out of the top ten?

My top ten would be:

MJ
Kareem
LeBron
Magic
Russell

Duncan
Shaq
Bird
Kobe
Wilt

All have more rings, and the bold have equal to or more MVPs than both Giannis and Jokic. Steph belongs on that list before we get to Giannis or Jokic. Moses Malone has the same credentials as Jokic (3 MVPs and one ring). Hakeem only has one MVP, but he’s a back to back champion with two DPOYS and one of three players to win an MVP and DPOY in the same season (he’s the only to win a championship that season).
Curry is in my top 10 already. Wilt Shaq Kobe Duncan or bird can be replaced by most people who think joker is top 10 already I'm guessing. He not there for me yet.
 

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1 Jordan
2 James
3 Abdul-Jabbar
4 Johnson
5 Duncan
6 Bryant
7 Curry
8 O'Neal
9 Bird
10 Olajuwon
11 Jokic
12 Chamberlain
13 Durant
14 Antetokoumpo
15 Russell

That's my personal list. Cant really debate the top 5 unless you flip Duncan and Bryant in my opinion

One more ring and Jokic jumps up to 9 or 10 in my opinion. 2 more rings and he's #8. 4 rings...i'd hate to say it but he passes Curry :wow:

I dont care much for the players who did their work when it was only 8 teams.
 

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I refuse to entertain ANY Joker goat talk until he wins more rings.

He's an amazing player

but if he was a breh, him winning more would be the narrative......


I'm putting the same pressure that the media puts on black players


Win the chip you fat cac and then we can all talk :ufdup:

IDGAF how many MVP's the media gives him

and fukk anyone who's gonna try and convince me thats not what we do with black players :pacspit:

Giannis exists as we speak.....
 
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