The joys of dating an up front woman.

[KingBeez]

Girls that are "upfront" are only upfront with the information they're comfortable with giving you, which is usually sex, but trust that they're hiding key information that's worst than her bodycount or if she's been in a train or not.

Make sure to ask additional questions (if you're tryna cuff) like, "How did you treat your last bf? Do you feel like you've could've done better? If so, why?" if she says she couldn't do better and she was perfect, you know she's not really upfront, but if she's being critical on herself, you may have a real one

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

man that's crazy

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

unbelievable

 

[Abstract83]

I have a question about more promiscuous women and this may need to be its own thread...

But do brehs find that a woman with a lot of bodies craves more pain during sex?

I dont know about pain but I know they crave sex more.

 

[Neo. The Only. The One.]

it is what it is

 

[Saltmoney]

Nobody (neither man, nor woman) is owed anything, we actually do agree on that.
Which is why splitting the bill on dates would go a long way to even the playing field. But that's not how it often goes is it? So unfortunately that's a factor on how many dates she delays the gratification by.

shyt, if I could go on 10 dinner dates with the same woman without getting the cheeks but she's somewhat charming and attractive AND paying for the meals, I'd enjoy them meals for sure! No rush at all!

But now addressing the "Who goes on a date and thinks to themselves, "Hmmm, I wonder how fast he/she slept with that other dude 5-10 years ago?" part. That's not really how it goes, usually guys just go in blind, it's only after they're told (usually DURING or more often AFTER the relationship) that home girl gave it up easy to such and such that it hurts. Especially when you're lead to believe that the delay to sex instantly means that she's more than what she appears to be (it's basic math, if she doesn't give it up easy then hopefully she's been like this for many men before you).

There ARE men that went on several dates with a woman that turned out to have a far shyttier personality or attitude than a past fling that gave it up on day 1. And THAT'S the real mind fukk. That's when it hits you that you wasted your time getting to know a woman - while investing time and money - that was just putting up a front.

So money is the great equalizer between being fine with not getting sex or being upset about it? Aka wasting time.

That means men and women are essentially on the same page in that they don't want their time and resources wasted.

(Some) women don't want to sleep with guys just to be strung along or labeled a certain way and (some) men want sex above else and thus don't like paying for dates unless it leads to intimacy, fast.

The goals often just don't match up.

 

[Claudex]

So money is the great equalizer between being fine with not getting sex or being upset about it? Aka wasting time.

That means men and women are essentially on the same page in that they don't want their time and resources wasted.

(Some) women don't want to sleep with guys just to be strung along or labeled a certain way and (some) men want sex above else and thus don't like paying for dates unless it leads to intimacy, fast.

The goals often just don't match up.

Men and women have always been on the same page. it's just that women focus more on what they've got to lose. So much so that some women actually believe that men don't have any disadvantages in the current dating game.

Both genders use dating as a screening endeavor, it's not just women.

As for the perfect number of dates: 3 dates. That ought to be enough to determine what's up on both sides.

And let me correct you on something: (some) men want sex above else and thus don't like paying for dates unless it leads to intimacy, fast. No man actually likes paying for dates, it's just a tolerable expense because it establishes an advantageous position.
A man dreaming about paying for a date is just unheard of. Yes we will offer, and yes we will sometimes even demand you just stay put while we foot the bill, but that's by design not choice.

As for women not wanting to be strung along and etc...refer back to the 3 dates principle. Which is the most advantageous for both genders, one doesn't get to look like a hoe and the other doesn't get to waste too many resources.


Hope I helped brehette.

 

[Bossino]

I just went on a date with a chick last week. The chemistry was insane we vibe a lot and we talked almost everyday. But shes upfront and she told me some stuff that scared the shyt out of me. I thought I could handle it but my ego was down for the count. We decided to be friends for now. Let's just say she's ummm waaaay more experienced than me.

Be thankful she gave you the information to make the decision, many men never get a true picture of the women they're dating until it's too late

 

[Bossino]

I don’t get this part at all and it comes up plentiful on this site....

Why do y’all care what another guy maybe decades ago got from a girl?

It’s such a weird way of thinking to me, like back when we were kids and they handed out candy and little Johnny got upset because another kid got two M&Ms more than him.....

Don't play dumb it's a direct indicator of how strongly a woman is feeling a man. I'd rather die alone then KNOWINGLY be a chicks second choice.

 

[Bossino]

This comes from a place of being owed something though, which is just a wrong way of thinking. Nobody is owed anything apart from basic human respect.

Who goes on a date and thinks to themselves, "Hmmm, I wonder how fast he/she slept with that other dude 5-10 years ago?".

Most women who take sex out of the equation are either just looking to protect themselves (physically or mentally), or want to see if this could be something serious and the usual pattern of behavior when looking for something more than friends with benefits + wanting to be taken seriously is to delay instant gratification.

The only thing I can understand is being apprehensive about someone having had a large amount of sex partners in general in the past, as that shows me how much self control you have/willpower and just lets me know if I'm dealing with a hoe or not.

Harsh but it is what it is......

Some people say it doesn't matter, especially in regard to men but I guess I disagree. Wholeheartedly.



Having sex early is treating you well?

That's just the reason you're going on the date to begin with but that isn't always the goal of the woman you're going out with.

The info about past relationships that I'd like to know is limited to maybe the reason why it ended and if severe issues like DV or other psycho behavior happened. I don't want to know how often, in which ways and on what days their sex life happened.

And I sure as hell won't be mad and start and argument because he kissed Ashley A on the first date, had sex with Ashley B on the second and didn't make hasty advances at me until the third date.



It's less confusion but more so apprehension to just flat out say that this is a stupid way of thinking.....

Being so focused on the past intricacies of your dates relationships just seems so childish and bitter; bitterness about something that never had anything to do with you.

It's outright coming out of a place of fear about missing out on something and it reeks of desperation to be honest....

This is a prime example of women more or less wanting men to bail them out for bad past behavior/wanting men to take what's given as opposed to have standards

 

[FaTaL]

No having to read any signals

No having to guess at what she means.

The open communication.

It's a dream fellas.

Holla if ya here me. WOOOOOO

What’s her body count? He bet she’s lying on that

 

[SATAN]

No such thing

 

[Dwolf]

Does her past matter if she’s good now, especially if she doesn’t have kids?

Yes

 

[Kairi Irving]

Congrats on your accomplishment of finding that rare gem, because most ladies aren't transparent like that.

You have to be upfront with them and tell them that's how you operate, if she starts acting strange bush her

Very very simple.

 

[Saltmoney]

Men and women have always been on the same page. it's just that women focus more on what they've got to lose. So much so that some women actually believe that men don't have any disadvantages in the current dating game.

Both genders use dating as a screening endeavor, it's not just women.

As for the perfect number of dates: 3 dates. That ought to be enough to determine what's up on both sides.

And let me correct you on something: (some) men want sex above else and thus don't like paying for dates unless it leads to intimacy, fast. No man actually likes paying for dates, it's just a tolerable expense because it establishes an advantageous position.
A man dreaming about paying for a date is just unheard of. Yes we will offer, and yes we will sometimes even demand you just stay put while we foot the bill, but that's by design not choice.

As for women not wanting to be strung along and etc...refer back to the 3 dates principle. Which is the most advantageous for both genders, one doesn't get to look like a hoe and the other doesn't get to waste too many resources.


Hope I helped brehette.

Women focus more on what they have to lose because they're the only ones who really have something to lose!

Lets say maybe

spending $100 on a date > sleeping with a stranger with unknown intentions.

Are you saying after 3 dates women should feel trustful enough to have sex with a new guy?

I'd imagine one would like paying for dates if you actually like the person you've invited and want to put your best foot forward?

Like gift giving for example, it's fun if you like the person so you imagine what would bring them joy etc./things y'all can do together to get to know each other more....

I guess it would be different if my expectations were more in the line of, "hopefully getting some sex out of this!".

I'd be more inclined to split the bill if it's a date stemming from maybe online dating/apps as you don't know the person at all vs. someone that a friend introduced you to/someone from work/social gatherings.

Like the kind of date where you pick the woman up from her home and then go out, splitting the bill would seem ridiculous to me.

Meeting someone somewhere from tinder/any other random dating site would make more sense to split the bill.

Don't play dumb it's a direct indicator of how strongly a woman is feeling a man. I'd rather die alone then KNOWINGLY be a chicks second choice.

Absolutely not.

Do you know how many women purposely don't shave leading up to a date/wear their ugliest underwear to the date to make themselves hold back on sleeping with a guy too fast?

Just because she slept with Humpty on the first date and with Dumpty on the third/later doesn't necessarily mean she likes Humpty sooo much more.

There could be various reasons like having had too much to drink, weak willpower that day, really horny that day, he wore her down, ugly underwear didn't do the trick etc.

This is a prime example of women more or less wanting men to bail them out for bad past behavior/wanting men to take what's given as opposed to have standards

And the standard would be what?

Have sex with me within the first week of knowing you or else it's bushes are standards?