'The Last of Us' - Season 2 Thread (NO GAME SPOILERS!) | HBO | April 13th, 2025 (7 Episodes)

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that’s been my whole argument since day one …. There really could never ever be a cure ; a vaccine is the best they could do
And they made a whole cold cut with a world-class scientist on the earliest days of the initial outbreak straight up telling a general to bomb the city before it spread because they were cooked.

Hell, the first scene of the series tells people that there is no cure.

But a veterinarian in a dingy hospital 20 years into a collapsed civilization, with all the support of a guerrilla movement that's getting stomped out all over the country is going to get it done.
 

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And they made a whole cold cut with a world-class scientist on the earliest days of the initial outbreak straight up telling a general to bomb the city before it spread because they were cooked.

Hell, the first scene of the series tells people that there is no cure.

But a veterinarian in a dingy hospital 20 years into a collapsed civilization, with all the support of a guerrilla movement that's getting stomped out all over the country is going to get it done.
If you can believe in mushroom zombies, then you can believe in a cure for the mushroom zombie virus being possible.

The end of TLOU Part 1 (and season 1 of the show) is meant to spark a debate ("What would you do in this situation?"). If a cure isn't possible, then the debate would be pointless... but that's not the case.

Joel killing the Fireflies in SLC is meant to be a morally gray situation. He's saving a teenage girl who he views as a "daughter" but simultaneously killing almost 20 people AND killing the chance for a cure to end the apocalypse.
 

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Neil already confirmed that a cure would’ve worked. There wouldn’t be a moral dilemma if the cure didn’t work. It’s the old question/trolley problem of “would you sacrifice 1 life to save millions.” Or “would you save 1 life but doom millions.” Stop trying to use irl science for video game logic lol.

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What does this mean?

Also, a vaccine would be a cure. Sooooooooo................................

it means the infected would never come back to being normal

The definition of a cure is when an individual has an ailment or a disease and takes treatment it kills the ailment/disease and will never come back into that individual at all.

The reason that I say a cure doesn’t matter is because the cordyceps whether the individual is bitten or inhaled spores the disease heads straight to the brain, and once it gets to the brain, it kills all its brain cells thereafter the fungi grows and develops and takes over their complete body

So even if they sacrificed Ellie and develop some type of treatment and thereafter they captured an infected and gave that infective the treatment which would kill the fungi that person is still brain dead and is completely a vegetable

and with all that said a vaccine is a completely different from a cure
The definition of a vaccine is created formula that can be given to an individuals to prevent them from getting said disease

Which I already stated would be an ideal thing in that post apocalypse world, but it really wouldn’t matter because the infected or not trying to bite, said individual. They’re literally aggressive and are trying to kill and ripped them apart.




And they made a whole cold cut with a world-class scientist on the earliest days of the initial outbreak straight up telling a general to bomb the city before it spread because they were cooked.

Hell, the first scene of the series tells people that there is no cure.

But a veterinarian in a dingy hospital 20 years into a collapsed civilization, with all the support of a guerrilla movement that's getting stomped out all over the country is going to get it done.

:salute:


I literally was going back-and-forth with a poster named ChatGPT something and once I posted this video, the dude completely fell back and never responded to me again


 

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Neil already confirmed that a cure would’ve worked. There wouldn’t be a moral dilemma if the cure didn’t work. It’s the old question/trolley problem of “would you sacrifice 1 life to save millions.” Or “would you save 1 life but doom millions.” Stop trying to use irl science for video game logic lol.

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that’s Neil Druckmann being incredibly disingenuous

Because we all know that the so-called cure/vaccine was ambiguous throughout the game it is said that they had other people just like Ellie and their sacrifice never worked

it’s the same disingenuous he did with Ellie being mad at Joel for saving her …. because if you remember just before they get to Marlene and Abby‘s father at the hospital , it’s a conversation between Joel and Ellie, where she clearly says after this is finished, we can go back to Tommy and pretty much live happily ever after …

Neil added these 2 crucial factors into his game/story to justify his own narrative
again that is being incredibly disingenuous
 

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:mjlol: No they didn’t lol

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doesn’t Joel find a tape throughout his journey where the recording is from a Doctor … who says something like = other patients who were immune died but their death shouldn’t be in vain to find a cure … paraphrasing what was said on the recording

:hubie:
 

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doesn’t Joel find a tape throughout his journey where the recording is from a Doctor … who says something like = other patients who were immune died but their death shouldn’t be in vain to find a cure … paraphrasing what was said on the recording

:hubie:
:mjlol:No
 
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doesn’t Joel find a tape throughout his journey where the recording is from a Doctor … who says something like = other patients who were immune died but their death shouldn’t be in vain to find a cure … paraphrasing what was said on the recording

:hubie:

Naw, they documented their experimentations but not on someone immune. They said Ellie was something they've never saw.
 

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If you can believe in mushroom zombies, then you can believe in a cure for the mushroom zombie virus being possible.

The end of TLOU Part 1 (and season 1 of the show) is meant to spark a debate ("What would you do in this situation?"). If a cure isn't possible, then the debate would be pointless... but that's not the case.

Joel killing the Fireflies in SLC is meant to be a morally gray situation. He's saving a teenage girl who he views as a "daughter" but simultaneously killing almost 20 people AND killing the chance for a cure to end the apocalypse.

A vaccine isn’t a “cure”. But I get what you mean as it wouldn’t prevent new infections.

Fungus zombies are a real thing. Those strains of fungus just don’t affect us yet…but that could easily change one day with a mutation or just an evolution based on need.
 

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if i’m wrong … then my bad :hubie:

I really don’t argue whether or not it would’ve worked…. I think the nuances around this whole sacrifice is more interesting than whether it would’ve worked or not.

That’s why I believe it’s a waste of time because nothing literally changes and like already said I’m a roll with the elder world class scientist who study cordyceps all her life …. then this so-called veterinarian
 
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