The Long-Shot Candidate Who Has the White House Worried - Joe Biden has a Cornel West problem.

[Voice of Reason]

I shared this a while ago, but its a RACE and CLASS issue:

I can't speak for you all, but I am not interested in helping upper middle class and wealthy black people like @Pressure achieve racial paradise of going to weddings with wealthy whites and playing polo on an even playing field, while standing on the head and necks of lower class and poor black people.

You can't ignore class when it comes to race, just like you can't ignore race when it comes to class.

As for your stuff about black women, I don't get how we have a wide problem with black child poverty but black women are doing as good as white women----which that Brookings report doesn't say, btw. Even in the Brookings article you shared, it says black women with families face being stuck poverty at a higher rate than black men with families.

You ignored the data that said Blacks born to wealthy parents are very likely to fall out of that class status at disproportionate rates because of RACE.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You ignored the data that said Blacks born to wealthy parents are very likely to fall out of that class status at disproportionate rates because of RACE.

He didn't ignore that though, he said it's a RACE and CLASS issue, and explicitly said, "You can't ignore class when it comes to race, just like you can't ignore race when it comes to class."

 

[mastermind]

Is the Coli broken? I can't view pages the same anymore.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Yet another lie, his comment quoted approvingly the exact thing @LOST IN THE SAUCE said, that Class Reductionism does exist. And he affirmed it himself. Did you not even read the comment?

You dapped a post saying it doesn't exist

I sunk your battleship

Just like your anti-capitalist rants saying racism is driven by economics

Just like your bernie cultist defenses

Just like your repeated assertions of class reductionist thinkers

We got you

Do you like when DSA hits it from behind?

Do you have a moral compass, at all? Or are you just purely "the ends justify the means" and don't give a shyt how much you have to lie and distort to get there?

Winning elections is a "moral conundrum" now

 

[mastermind]

You ignored the data that said Blacks born to wealthy parents are very likely to fall out of that class status at disproportionate rates because of RACE.

I've never denied race, thats why I am breaking this down from a racial perspective.

You ignore class, and some how want to focus this solely on black men. You need to broaden your thinking, brother.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

“I’ve come upon something that disturbs me deeply. We have fought hard and long for integration, as I believe we should have, and I know we will win, but I have come to believe that we are integrating into a burning house. I’m afraid that America has lost the moral vision she may have had, and I’m afraid that even as we integrate, we are walking into a place that does not understand that this nation needs to be deeply concerned with the plight of the poor and disenfranchised. Until we commit ourselves to ensuring that the underclass is given justice and opportunity, we will continue to perpetuate the anger and violence that tears the soul of this nation. I fear I am integrating my people into a burning house.” - Martin Luther King Jr.



@Pressure (because I've given up hope of the other one being an honest conversation partner), do you believe that MLK Jr. was a class reductionist?

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Personally, I don't think he was. I think he was correctly concerned with race and class both. But that particular statement is far closer to class reductionism than anything y'all have quoted me saying, because he's suggesting that antiracism could fail if not matched with a class struggle as well. So what exact point are y'all trying to make here?

MLK wasn't a class reductionist but you would't know that from white leftists who try to claim him into their fold.

When I started peeping this I knew I couldn't trust them because white leftists can't even deliver their own voters to this utopian project

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Why would we read shyt that the person posting it hasn't even read? No one believes for a moment that you've read or watched all that shyt. As always, you're just spam-posting things you find on social media in order to bury previous instances of yourself being embarrassed by actual dialogue.

oh.

I ve read it all. I've posted all the links and videos over these years. 2016 was a few years ago. I've been on this beat for a minute. Maybe it's you that needs to read.

run along

do your homework kiddo

its over

The PMC meets the Tucker Carlson Left

Comrade Motopu uncovers the reactionary politics underpinning Catherine Liu's new book and her social media presence.

libcom.org

Ethno-Nagleism is the Idpol of fools

Comrade Motopu is not a fan of nationalism and did not enjoy the latest article by Angela Nagle.

libcom.org

Class Reductionism Is Real, and It’s Coming from the Jacobin Wing of the DSA - Left Voice

The Jacobin wing of the DSA tends towards class reductionism. This is a big problem for the largest socialist organization in the country. The Black-led uprising against police violence and institutional racism has brought this issue to the fore and presents an opportunity to rectify it.

www.leftvoice.org

 

[mastermind]

I think that the AI device behind Napoloen broke this thread.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

@Rhakim and @mastermind should watch this on their lunch break

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

I think that the AI device behind Napoloen broke this thread.

I broke your class reductionism and exposed your white leftist leadership

 

[Professor Emeritus]

You dapped a post saying it doesn't exist

Do you think that if you repeat the lie often enough, people will believe it?

I already quoted two different statements from that exact comment where he says that class reductionism exists, and I've already explicitly said myself that it exists several times in this same thread. So what is the point of you continuing this line of deflection? All you're proving is how much you don't want to debate issues or be intellectually honest. You just like calling people names and spamming the thread with links.

 

[Professor Emeritus]

#neverforget

That message, incidentally, was sent to me when I'd had him on ignore for 4 years. So he had no beef with me because he wasn't emotionally distracted by arguments with me. Even though we had already been through the Bernie 2016 and AOC 2018 elections by that point, even though I was an out-and-forceful socialist, even though my biggest post on the history series he enjoyed was a nuanced love letter to a Black socialist....he doesn't actually have a problem with my arguments so much as the fact that I'm arguing with him.

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Either that or the account has a love/hate relationship with me depending on whose shift it is at the call center.

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

#neverforget

So?

I’m not a dead ender like you. I’ll drop you like a hot rock if I need to.

This nikka posting 4 year old DM’s cause he thinks if white voters get their debts paid they’ll stop being racist

 

[LOST IN THE SAUCE]

I broke your class reductionism and exposed your white leftist leadership

Oh boy, can we unpack this now? What do you mean white leftist leadership? Who do you consider leftist leadership?

 

[☑︎#VoteDemocrat]

Oh boy, can we unpack this now? What do you mean white leftist leadership? Who do you consider leftist leadership?

Your boy in Vermont.

Bernie thinks he can fix this.

This is the sort of thinking that CL(ASS) REDUCTIONISTS like @Rhakim et al think they can fix: