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how is 'be yourself' the worst advice?...the fact you cant be yourself is more damning and shows what you really think about yourself...which aint much if you dont think it's good enough to get with whomever...hell, that goes for more than just relationships...if you dont think you can get by in life by being yourself, you need to really do some self evaluation and make whatever changes you think you need to....like i tell people all the time: 'if you dont love you, no one will'....

I'm not saying that you can't be "true" to yourself...but your entire stance smacks of resistance to change and complacency.

Maybe you've accepted who you are...and thats fine, but all I hear from you is an ability to LEARN.
 

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so i'm lazy to change cause i be myself and dont play games? lol if you say so...

those things you named have nothing to do with being yourself...being yourself is more about your morals, values, how you treat/interact with people, etc...you can be yourself and realize you need to start going to the gym, get better grades, etc....but you're not being yourself if when you dealing with women, you tell them what they want hear to advance things, instead of saying what you really think/feel.....you not being yourself if you act a different way to advance things to reach a certain objective; and once that objective is reached, you start acting different and more like 'yourself'....that's what i'm talking about...i'm not talking about not changing to improve your life; we talking about interacting with females which is what this thread is about...if yall want to talk about other life shyt, we can do that, start a thread...

See, you wanna talk about self improvement under another name.

Dudes DO need to change themselves in some regards. That includes attitude adjustments and moral alignments.

Thinking that "who you are" is all you need, is a MAJOR obstacle to progress.
 

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Again you equate it to games but I don't think it's a game at all... to each his own. It's all for advancement whether you use strategy or not... the point is to actually get somewhere with these women, you're not hypnotizing them. I'm still treating females the way they want to be treated, I'm not lying to any females at all... but I'm looking out for numero uno and I'm going for mines. Things are the way they are it's not gonna change period..also women have a way they operate as well..it is what it is.. I'm just controlling the pace outchea

using your words: you purposely make yourself less available to females, dont pursue as much, etc. do things/act a certain with the intention of advancing with women cause you know it works...that's playing the game with the cheat code my dude lol....cause like i said before: you're right, that is how men/women relationships go...there is game playing in most cases...and using their (women) rules, us (men) have learned to play it better than women, which they hate....i haven't said it was wrong, just said i dont do it....
 

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I'm not saying that you can't be "true" to yourself...but your entire stance smacks of resistance to change and complacency.

Maybe you've accepted who you are...and thats fine, but all I hear from you is an ability to LEARN.

you said 'be yourself is the worst advice', that is saying you cant be true to yourself and get places with women...and i'm saying that's not true....

you're right, I've accepted and know who i am, and i love it....i hope everyone gets to this point in their life.....but that doesn't mean i cant learn/adapt as you're trying to imply...
 

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some takes time and patience.
 

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using your words: you purposely make yourself less available to females, dont pursue as much, etc. do things/act a certain with the intention of advancing with women cause you know it works...that's playing the game with the cheat code my dude lol....cause like i said before: you're right, that is how men/women relationships go...there is game playing in most cases...and using their (women) rules, us (men) have learned to play it better than women, which they hate....i haven't said it was wrong, just said i dont do it....
The lack of chit chat on the phone is doing myself a favor
I pursue since I got the number... So I did pursue... I also save all the talking for in person.... I don't see how that's games... and if it is then fukk it I'm doing something right..instead of wasting all my time on the phone I devote time to being with her in person... Aka I put myself first. Why lose p*ssy when I can avoid it... and still tell the truth?Courtship has always existed in your mind it wasn't always this way but IT ALWAYS was this way...So nothing changes . only the people who participate and the settings do. It's the same with politics.. during the royal courtship...and now in modern politics.

Yeah you can be that guy that met the girl who asked her out 15 times til she finally caved in... or you can be that guy that did it right the first time because he took some advice LOL... and trust me the way you met her will have a long lasting effect on how she views you forever.
 

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See, you wanna talk about self improvement under another name.

Dudes DO need to change themselves in some regards. That includes attitude adjustments and moral alignments.

Thinking that "who you are" is all you need, is a MAJOR obstacle to progress.

no i haven't...all the things I've said have been about men/women interactions, which is what the thread was about...yes, you can take the shyt i said and apply it to other aspects of life, but i wasn't talking about those things....everything has been about men/women and that interaction....but i'm gonna talk about life in general in response to the rest of your post:

thinking 'who you are is all you need' isn't a major obstacle, it's the opposite...it's a major advantage/bonus...when you have that confidence that who you are is enough to get you through whatever situation is a beautiful thing and helps make life a lil easier....now, that's not saying you cant improve in areas such as job, finances, education, etc....in fact, once you think and believe you're all you need, have that confidence in yourself, it makes it that much easier to make those advancements in life....when you dont have that understanding nor knowledge of self, that is a major obstacle and makes it harder to make those advancements...and just cause you know and are true to yourself doesn't mean you cant adapt....you can adapt to whatever situation, but being able to adapt to situations and changing who you are as a person for those situations are 2 different things...
 

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how is 'be yourself' the worst advice?...the fact you cant be yourself is more damning and shows what you really think about yourself...which aint much if you dont think it's good enough to get with whomever...hell, that goes for more than just relationships...if you dont think you can get by in life by being yourself, you need to really do some self evaluation and make whatever changes you think you need to....like i tell people all the time: 'if you dont love you, no one will'....

so i'm lazy to change cause i be myself and dont play games? lol if you say so...

those things you named have nothing to do with being yourself...being yourself is more about your morals, values, how you treat/interact with people, etc...you can be yourself and realize you need to start going to the gym, get better grades, etc....but you're not being yourself if when you dealing with women, you tell them what they want hear to advance things, instead of saying what you really think/feel.....you not being yourself if you act a different way to advance things to reach a certain objective; and once that objective is reached, you start acting different and more like 'yourself'....that's what i'm talking about...i'm not talking about not changing to improve your life; we talking about interacting with females which is what this thread is about...if yall want to talk about other life shyt, we can do that, start a thread...
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Bruh if you want anything in life you take 3 simple steps

Identify what you want ==>Find out what you need to do to get what you want ===> Do what needs to be done

I admire you sticking to your guns, I really do. But you sound like some type of masochist. Like some type of dude who'll go into a boxing match in the wrong stance cause he's convinced "my way's better". It reminds me of the dudes who first start peeping game and stubbornly cling to their nice guy dichotomy in spite of it.

No matter how you go about it, if you're going after something you want (women) you're BEING YOURSELF already. Some people may choose more ruthless methods than others but just their act of going for it is 100% honest and females know it no matter what line you can use to try to convince them otherwise.

You can frame yourself as "above" this and that (theres always someone who does in these types of threads)....but this game will just continue to be played with or without you. And a WHOLE lot more women are playing it than what you're banking on. And you're playing too whether you like it or not. your stance is just gonna quietly stick you in the losers bracket leaving you to philosophize.

Besides nobody told you to lie to these broads or do some switch up....the thread is about chilling on the pre-meetup chit chat for fukks sake

I always found it funny how dudes feel so comfortable groveling and castrating themselves to women but are so :whoa::whoa::whoa: to the idea of not returning a text
 
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The lack of chit chat on the phone is doing myself a favor
I pursue since I got the number... So I did pursue... I also save all the talking for in person.... I don't see how that's games... and if it is then fukk it I'm doing something right..instead of wasting all my time on the phone I devote time to being with her in person... Aka I put myself first. Why lose p*ssy when I can avoid it... and still tell the truth?Courtship has always existed in your mind it wasn't always this way but IT ALWAYS was this way...So nothing changes . only the people who participate and the settings do. It's the same with politics.. during the royal courtship...and now in modern politics.

Yeah you can be that guy that met the girl who asked her out 15 times til she finally caved in... or you can be that guy that did it right the first time because he took some advice LOL... and trust me the way you met her will have a long lasting effect on how she views you forever.

again: i haven't said what you're doing is right/wrong, just said i dont do it nor do i agree you need to do it...that's it...
 

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One more jewel for you youngins. See yourself is the Ebola virus. You plant yourself in her conscious and you slowly spread. Eventually she will infected by your personality your convo and your aura.

disclaimer: it can go either way though. If you a wack nikka, she will be turned off and will either stop fukking with you all together or put you in friend zone jail. :ufdup:

And just know she already knows is she will fukk you within the first 5 minutes of her meeting you. Whether or not she lets you is up to you.
 

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One more jewel for you youngins. See yourself is the Ebola virus. You plant yourself in her conscious and you slowly spread. Eventually she will infected by your personality your convo and your aura.

disclaimer: it can go either way though. If you a wack nikka, she will be turned off and will either stop fukking with you all together or put you in friend zone jail. :ufdup:

And just know she already knows is she will fukk you within the first 5 minutes of her meeting you. Whether or not she lets you is up to you.
LOL@ friend zone jail
 

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Bruh if you want anything in life you take 3 simple steps

Identify what you want ==>Find out what you need to do to get what you want ===> Do what needs to be done

I admire you sticking to your guns, I really do. But you sound like some type of masochist. Like some type of dude who'll go into a boxing match in the wrong stance cause he's convinced "my way's better". It reminds me of the dudes who first start peeping game and stubbornly cling to their nice guy dichotomy in spite of it.

No matter how you go about it, if you're going after something you want (women) you're BEING YOURSELF already. Some people may choose more ruthless methods than others just their act of going for it is 100% honest and females know it no matter what line you can use to try to convince them otherwise.

You can frame yourself as "above" this and that (theres always someone who does in these types of threads)....but this game will just continue to be played with or without you. And a WHOLE lot more women are playing it than what you're banking on.

Besides nobody told you to lie to these broads or do some switch up....the thread is about chilling on the pre-meetup chit chat for fukks sake

lol aight, let's see:

- i haven't said i was above this/that, just said i dont agree with what was being said....nor have i said how i approach women is better....
- I've said plenty of times you are right, the game (glad you finally admit it is a game) will continue...
- going after something and how you go about it are 2 different things....
- i'm not a masochist....and i'm not sticking to a nice guy anything...in fact, if you talked to most women that know me, they'd probably call me an a$$hole, muthafukka, or whore first lol..
- go back and read through the thread, cats are saying lie to the broads/switch up, it'll get you further...just said i dont think that's necessary...

...it's whatever though...i was just stating my thoughts/opinions on the topic...in the end, whatever works for you, keep doing...
 

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This girl at my gym started talking to me and seemed super interested...even some of the other dudes work out with said the same thing.

But one day I asked her if she wanted to go out sometime to hang out, have fun, etc as friends,....she starts talking about how she just got out of a serious relationship so she doesnt wanna hang out right now. :beli:....which is true about her just getting out of a relationship, but it's not the way she was acting at first.

So then I semi-ignored her one day and she goes out of her way to speak to me and kinda started acting interested again.

So I know how this goes, she likes attention from dudes. And she has a super nice body so I'm sure she's used to it.

But she's about to go on the permanent ignore list. :camby: Not to where I make it obvious, but just nothing more than a head nod or "sup".
 
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