The National Baptist Convention Of America (3.5 million strong) forms partnership with ADOS.

[GoAggieGo.]

I still don't see this church partnership as a net positive for #ADOS. But I guess we'll see.

I look at it like this: if you’re able to get even one person in the church to change his/her views, and take a serious look at some of the data being presented, then it’s a net positive IMO. Now, I don’t want them bringing this stuff up during the service, but the church houses many sub organizations within its walls, and this information can be passed along that way.

I can remember as a kid, going on convention trips with the church that was affiliated with this organization. This has the potential to get to people like my aunty and grandparents.

 

[truth2you]

Some of yall are some scary people. Don't you think the same people who made up ADOS chapters, and have been following Yvette & Tone over the years, are the same people who can also steer the direction things are going?

I think some of yall are scared because you are just comparing it to the past not realizing ADOS followers who are serious tend to be more into educating themselves on politics as opposed to people who just go to church, and follow whats being said, back in the day. The thing is you need those people as well. I'm not into the church, but I know one thing, I always hear all these conscious community, Panafricnaist, and "I read tons of books, I know whats good for you" types, talk down on the church, but NONE of them helped people in the hood like the church.

I seen people on drugs get help from the church, people need help with bills get help from the church. Meanwhile the other groups just talk. NOI helped people, but you have to be a part of them to get help. If most black people are part of the church, why not use them to gain traction? Some of yall have too much damn fear. Keep acting like that, and YOU will be the next Tariq Nasheed, paranoid about so much shyt nothing gets done, except for yourself. I would be worried if this were most other groups. ADOS followers has shown me they are about their business, and call out bullshyt, so I have no worries about the church joining in. The truth is a lot of people just have hate for religion, and that is why they are mad, I don't understand why people have so much hate for the black church like that

 

[8WON6]

You mean those organizations aren't called Jewish and Mexicanos?

I mean yeah.


Yall trying to jokey joke shyt away. I know my point stands. Tone and Yvette pulled a switch up. Im not the only person that sees it.

 

[Silky Johnson]

Some of yall are some scary people. Don't you think the same people who made up ADOS chapters, and have been following Yvette & Tone over the years, are the same people who can also steer the direction things are going?

I think some of yall are scared because you are just comparing it to the past not realizing ADOS followers who are serious tend to be more into educating themselves on politics as opposed to people who just go to church, and follow whats being said, back in the day. The thing is you need those people as well. I'm not into the church, but I know one thing, I always hear all these conscious community, Panafricnaist, and "I read tons of books, I know whats good for you" types, talk down on the church, but NONE of them helped people in the hood like the church.

I seen people on drugs get help from the church, people need help with bills get help from the church. Meanwhile the other groups just talk. NOI helped people, but you have to be a part of them to get help. If most black people are part of the church, why not use them to gain traction? Some of yall have too much damn fear. Keep acting like that, and YOU will be the next Tariq Nasheed, paranoid about so much shyt nothing gets done, except for yourself. I would be worried if this were most other groups. ADOS followers has shown me they are about their business, and call out bullshyt, so I have no worries about the church joining in. The truth is a lot of people just have hate for religion, and that is why they are mad, I don't understand why people have so much hate for the black church like that

 

[truth2you]

Dislikes maybe, but hate, IDK?

 

[Secure Da Bag]

I mean yeah.


Yall trying to jokey joke shyt away. I know my point stands. Tone and Yvette pulled a switch up. Im not the only person that sees it.

To me, it's more what Tariq said. They left it purposefully unclear. But I've distinguished between ADOS and #ADOS before this became a thing. And other people did as well. But I can see how people who don't follow politics all that closely would not see the difference.

 

[GMoney]

I mean yeah.


Yall trying to jokey joke shyt away. I know my point stands. Tone and Yvette pulled a switch up. Im not the only person that sees it.

Breh, did you read anything we posted? They've been courting democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson for months now and the c00nection with the baptist church goes back to the beginning.

They are not suggesting any candidates because there are no serious candidates supporting reparations/a black agenda right now, they are just suggesting a general strategy on the local level since they don't know who's running in your area.

It's up to YOU to decide who to vote for in local elections.

Voting for some, one or none of the democrats signals that you showed up and protested the party, not supported it. No one said you couldn't vote for other party candidates at your local level if you like them

Go to Higher Learning and ask the DNC brehs there if they like this. Trust me, they don't, they want us to vote for the president and democratic judges and the like. This protest vote is not aligned with democratic strategies or ideals.

 

[8WON6]

Breh, did you read anything we posted? They've been courting democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson for months now and the c00nection with the baptist church goes back to the beginning.

They are not suggesting any candidates because there are no serious candidates supporting reps/a black agenda, they are just suggesting a general strategy on the local level since they don't know who's running in your area.

It's up to YOU to decide who to vote for in local elections.

Voting for some, one or none of the democrats signals that you showed up and protested the party, not supported it. No one said you couldn't vote for other parties candidates at your local level if you like them

courting her as a candidate was never "VOTE DEMOCRAT DOWN BALLOT". Williamson came to our doorstep as ADOS because we STOPPED (at least for the moment) blindly supporting democrats. THEY CAME RUNNING BACK AND LISTENING FOR ONCE, BECAUSE WE SPOKE AS AN ETHNICITY/LINEAGE. How do yall not understand this? shyt GOT DONE ONCE DEMANDED shyt AND THREATENED TO TAKE OUR VOTES COMPLETELY OFF THE BALLOTS ALL TOGETHER as one gigantic ethnicity.

now we are back to blindly voting democrat and being churchfolk. We are back to square one.

 

[8WON6]

Now they got the baptist hype preachers in on it.

All that's missing is Sharpton and Jesse the rebranding of the NAACP is complete.

shyt sad man.

 

[GMoney]

now we are back to blindly voting democrat and being churchfolk. We are back to square one.

I think you're thinking about this to the extreme. I, nor many other ados supporters are geared up to vote for any democrat right now


Yvette's callers (who are the core group) call up every show saying they won't vote or they don't know who to vote for, and Yvette says to find one person or just write in #ados.

I don't see how this compares to what you're afraid of.

Trust me, the democrats are not gonna like this

Just go and ask them?

 

[Silky Johnson]

shyt sad man.

It really is. Saddest part is this same play has been run in every movement geared towards black folk since at least the NOI/Garvey days

It's a true perversion of Hope...Take something with deep emotional ties we can't sit on the fence on, inject as many logical fallacies as needed to obfuscate the facts and let it cook. We end up fighting and distrusting each other while nothing tangible gets done.

 

[Nicole0416_718_929_646212]

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West, who now teaches at Union Theological Seminary in New York — after stints at Harvard and Princeton — has been long admired for his old-school affinity for jazz and blues, mortician-chic couture (black three piece suit, black tie, white shirt) and signature afro. His 1994 book Race Matters propelled him to the top tier of the country's black intellectuals. As a young man, Dyson, who now teaches at Georgetown, was an admirer, a mentee, and eventually a friend, even as Dyson's own star began to sparkle on talk radio, talking-head shows, and the college lecture circuit.

Here's Gary Younge at The Guardian:

"In the best of times, this back-and-forth by two highly paid professionals" would be just a tempest in a faculty club teapot.. "But these are not the best of times," Younge continues. "Black people are being shot dead in the street almost daily by trigger-happy cops and two ostensibly smart men, who have both produced excellent work and who pride themselves on being engaged academics responsive to the needs of the black community, are firing broadsides at each other."

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[invalid]

Dislikes maybe, but hate, IDK?

The black church has done more harm than good, imo. We’re still mentally enslaved because of it.

 

[AtlienInTheGoodieMob]

Im wary of churches getting involved in matter like these. Church leaders are to easily swayed or manipulated

 

[Secure Da Bag]

Im wary of churches getting involved in matter like these. Church leaders are to easily swayed or manipulated

Church leaders depend on money like everyone else. More money, more sway.