The Official 2012 NBA Draft Talk Thread

[NatiboyB]

Somebody sell me on MKG, I just don't see it

I think Harrison Barnes will be better than deng

He isn't nothing more then a GWALLACE/Igoudala type defender. His offensive game is slashing and dunks. He doesn't create for himself and he is not the 2nd best player in this draft. Barnes has a higher floor and higher ceiling.

But MKG is the second best SF prospect.

 

[Malta]

Somebody sell me on MKG, I just don't see it

I think Harrison Barnes will be better than deng

MKG is just one of those swiss army knives, I don't think he'll be an all-star or even warrant going before Drummond, but he could be one of those dudes that has the 14pt, 8rebs, 5asts, 4stls, 2blks games on the regular.


Basically a great player to have if you're serious about winning, won't sell tickets or anything. I like Barnes, just not 100% sure about him for the Raptors, the Warriors yeah he'd be a good fit.

 

[Bomberman]

So who's gonna be that small school guard that'll put up a lot of points in the league? There's always at least one.

I think maybe: DraftExpress NBA Draft Prospect Profile: Orlando Johnson, Stats, Comparisons, and Outlook

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Barnes needs to be on a team with a low post threat that can give him some open looks..Barnes will not be able to create his own shot on the pro level

 

[NatiboyB]

MKG is versatile but not to the point of being the 2nd pick. Honestly let's be real with ourselves this draft is strong depth wise but not big on stars. Anthony Davis is the only player who looks like a star the rest of these dudes are second tier types and even 3rd scorers.

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

Elton Brand wasn't that explosive, what he had/has is an absurd standing reach. And West wasn't overly skilled coming out of College, he worked to improve his mid-range shot which allowed him to play the PnR with Cp3. He's from the same mold in that if he's 6"9, he'll be average height for a PF, burly and will need the mid-range jumper as his first weapon to build off of.





Demar took a step back last season, but he's still talented and he's better than Young. I pointed out MKG is the best case scenario, even though I don't know how he would play with Demar . If Barnes and Perry are on the board, honestly I take Perry just because of the higher ceiling, sure he could be a bust but in this case both are Sophs, both had underwhelming seasons but Perry has more room for improvement.


I didn't say Perry would turn into a great shotblocker, he could clean-up on the weakside though and being better than Bargs as a shotblocker doesn't really require much. He could improve simply from no longer having to guard PF/Cs anymore.

No offense bro, but judging by your posts, you just don't watch enough games if at all.

In the Same way that Demar is considered "talented", Nick Young was considered "talented"... Lottery Picks with Great Athleticism and seemingly nice jumpshots. But when you watch the games you see them for what they are, mediocre players with Great Athleticism. DEmar can't create for anyone else, and he only creates bad shots for himself and he doesn't finish well at the rim with all his athleticism. And Like I said who cares how he plays with Demar, because Demar is not a difference maker to wonder how his game will affect anyone, he's just another player on a bad team.


Elton Brand Had BOUNCE. I never said he was Blake Griffin explosive but he was a VERY good athlete with VERY GOOD Quickness And VERY GOOD bounce. He was the number 1 pick and he averaged 20 and 10 as a rookie for a reason and he was a Power Forward.
Sullinger at 6'9 is not only undersized but Has UNDERWHELMING QUICKNESS, UNDERWHELMING ATHLETICISM AND UNDERWHELMING BOUNCE and IS FOR ALL INTENTS AND PURPOSES A CENTER, NOT A POWER FORWARD.

SO Don't compare sullinger to two guys that are better athletes and were more skilled NOW and COMING Out of College than he was bro just because they have the same frame. Stop looking at nbadraft.net measurements and thinking its the end all be all

and as someone who watched Perry Jones in HS, I pray to god that he won't be another Anthony Randolph but...

 

[phillycavsfan]

Somebody sell me on MKG, I just don't see it

I think Harrison Barnes will be better than deng

I look at MKG, and I see Iggy 2.0. Smart as fukk, lockdown defender with an ugly jumper. He'll never be a superstar, but he's the safest pick outside of Anthony Davis.

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

Somebody sell me on MKG, I just don't see it

If you like a guy who hustles and call fill the lane on the break hes cool..he has no ability to score in the halfcourt at all..

Hes been compared to guys like Gerald Wallace and Igoudala but they both have superior atlheticism..and if i have a no 2 pick ideally you want guys with more upside then those two


Hes no 2 pick in a weak draft..i dont see anything more then him being a solid role player

 

[NatiboyB]

Just to make a few comments. When Brand came out he had bounce and was athletic as one of those big plodders could get. There wasn't a question why he was the first pick he could also block shots.

Sullinger has a better mid-range game to me but he is not the athlete Brand was.

I don't see why people are thinking of MKG as a top 3 pick outside of the fact no one has stepped up. Once the combine is over he will fall out of the top 3.

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

Somebody sell me on MKG, I just don't see it

I think Harrison Barnes will be better than deng

Im higher on MKG than most people simply because you don't find that many guys that are 6'7 230 (at only 20 years old) with that kind of Athleticism that play with that kind of intensity and defense. If you infused Thabo Shefolosha with rookie Gerald Wallace athleticism (crazy athleticism), I think you'd have a good idea at what you could see at the Worst possible scenario, and that's without knowing how his skills will advance.

The difference between Davis and MKG in my opinion, is despite the fact that Kentucky;s offense limited them both, we've seen davis has an extremely impressive offensive game for his size (handles, smooth jumper, very fluid footwork in the post) because there's been times where he's gotten angry and got into that mode (however rare). MKG didn't do that NOT Once this season, all his points came from working hard which is a good sign but it's also a cause of intrigue in that you don't know what you have offensively and what the capacity for improvement is.

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

Just to make a few comments. When Brand came out he had bounce and was athletic as one of those big plodders could get. There wasn't a question why he was the first pick he could also block shots.

Sullinger has a better mid-range game to me but he is not the athlete Brand was.

agree wit u about brand
I don't know about Sully's midrange game bro beyond that shot which he won't be able to get off in the nba.

 

[Flight]

Barnes needs to be on a team with a low post threat that can give him some open looks..Barnes will not be able to create his own shot on the pro level

He needs a pg that can get him easy shots as well. I think he'll be solid but I just don't see a all star wing

 

[NatiboyB]

Let's wait until we see how tall the guy is. If he grades out to 6'10 and or impresses at the combine with some more athletic ability like agiliy and verticle I think it will change things.


What do you guys think if PJIII grades out to be 6'11 235 with some great workouts do you see him going into the top 5

 

[MalickSyXShabbaz]

Let's wait until we see how tall the guy is. If he grades out to 6'10 and or impresses at the combine with some more athletic ability like agiliy and verticle I think it will change things.


What do you guys think if PJIII grades out to be 6'11 235 with some great workouts do you see him going into the top 5

PJ is going to have great workouts regardless but if anyone bites they're a fool

 

[FreedS[ohh]lave]

MKG is versatile but not to the point of being the 2nd pick. Honestly let's be real with ourselves this draft is strong depth wise but not big on stars. Anthony Davis is the only player who looks like a star the rest of these dudes are second tier types and even 3rd scorers.

I agree.a lot of these dudes that were supposed to make this a great draft shyt the bed and were exposed staying another year..

I love Davis but i dont know if hell ever become a great offensice player in the pros..i see him as a Camby type