The Official 2023 Hip Hop Grammys Thread

Who Will Win Best Rap Album?

  • Kendrick Lamar

    Votes: 46 70.8%
  • Pusha T

    Votes: 11 16.9%
  • DJ Khaled

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Jack Harlow

    Votes: 3 4.6%
  • Future

    Votes: 5 7.7%

  • Total voters
    65
  • Poll closed .
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Another year another Hip Hop Grammys thread…

This year is an interesting one, with multiple narratives and potential controversies surrounding “Music’s Biggest Night”. Puerto Rican artist Bad Bunny becomes the first artist to have a Spanish-language album nominated for the prestigious Album Of The Year. R&B legend Mary J. Blige receives her very first Album Of The Year and Record Of The Year nominations for ’Good Morning Gorgeous’ and it’s title track. Pop sensation Harry Styles continues his unprecedented string of accolades with nominations in both Album and Record Of The Year for ‘Harry’s House’ and ‘As It Was’ respectively. But the most dynamic of showdowns irrefutably comes down to two of music’s biggest names; Beyonce and Adele. In a rematch of sorts of the 2017 awards, titans Beyonce and Adele are once again pitted against each other in the top three categories; Record Of The Year, Song Of The Year, and Album Of The Year. Adele controversially walked away with all three awards on that fateful night in 2017, and in 2023 both artists are again heavily favored to be the top contenders for each award. So with all of these potential storylines and intrigues, one might ask themselves, “Where does Hip Hop fit in?”

This year, one of Hip Hop’s most celebrated figures returns to the nominations bracket, Kendrick Lamar. The 13 time Grammy winner is up for an additional 8 awards (second only to Beyonce’s 9) including three in the general categories. After being shut out of the 2013 awards ceremony in a universally maligned manner (even one of his competitors admitted his victory over K.Dot was fraudulent Macklemore to Kendrick After Grammys: 'You Got Robbed') Kendrick has went onto have a stunning streak of success, sweeping the rap categories with every subsequent solo album. However, even he has failed to break Hip Hop’s TWENTY YEAR LONG drought of winning the night’s top prize. That’s right folks, despite critically acclaimed and commercially successful releases from the likes of Kanye West, Jay-Z, Drake, Cardi B, Lil Wayne, and Kendrick himself; no Hip Hop act has won AOTY since Outkast’s sprawling opus ’Speakerboxx/The Love Below’ back in 2004! The other three general categories have treated Hip Hop a tad better, Megan Thee Stallion became the first female rapper since Lauryn Hill (back in 98) to win Best New Artist during the 2021 ceremony. Hip Hop’s very own renaissance man Childish Gambino (AKA Donald Glover) became the first rapper to win both Song Of The Year and Record Of The Year in 2019 for the fiery, combustible single ‘This Is America‘ .

This go round, Kendrick’s album Mr. Morale & The Big Steppers is nominated for AOTY (his 4th time in a row) against the aforementioned Beyonce and Adele. He also collected nominations in both ROTY and SOTY for MMM&TBS first single ‘The Heart Part 5’. He is pitted against both Beyonce and Adele in these categories, and DJ and rap music curator Khaled joins Lamar in the SOTY category for the epic ‘God Did’ (featuring Lil Wayne, Rick Ross, and Jay-Z). Lamar is also nominated for Best Music Video as well as in all 4 rap categories.

Will Kendrick Lamar sweep the rap categories for a third straight album cycle? Does he have what it takes to surpass music’s most famous divas in AOTY? Could he perhaps be triumphant in Record Of The Year or Song Of The Year?

These and other questions will be answered this coming Sunday, February 5th, from 7:00pm-10:30pm EST. On CBS.
 
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Below is the listing of Nominations as it pertains to categories including Hip Hop artists

Album of the Year​

ABBA - Voyage
Adele - 30
Bad Bunny - Un Verano Sin Ti
Beyoncé - Renaissance
Brandi Carlile - In These Silent Days
Coldplay - Music of the Spheres
Harry Styles - Harry’s House
Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers
Lizzo - Special
Mary J. Blige - Good Morning Gorgeous (Deluxe)


Record of the Year​

ABBA - Don’t Shut Me Down
Adele - Easy on Me
Beyoncé - Break My Soul
Brandi Carlile Featuring Lucius - You and Me on the Rock
Doja Cat - Woman
Harry Styles - As It Was
Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5
Lizzo - About Damn Time
Mary J. Blige - Good Morning Gorgeous
Steve Lacy - Bad Habit

Song of the Year​

Adele - Easy on Me
Beyoncé - Break My Soul
Bonnie Raitt - Just Like That
DJ Khaled Featuring Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, John Legend & Fridayy - God Did
Gayle - ABCDEFU
Harry Styles - As It Was
Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5
Lizzo - About Damn Time
Steve Lacy - Bad Habit
Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (The Short Film)

Best New Artist​

Anitta
Domi & JD Beck
Latto
Måneskin
Molly Tuttle
Muni Long
Omar Apollo
Samara Joy
Tobe Nwigwe
Wet Leg

Best Rap Performance​

DJ Khaled Featuring Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, John Legend & Fridayy - God Did
Doja Cat - Vegas
Gunna & Future Featuring Young Thug - Pushin P
Hitkidd & Glorilla - F.N.F. (Let’s Go)
Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5

Best Rap Album​

DJ Khaled - God Did
Future - I Never Liked You
Jack Harlow - Come Home the Kids Miss You
Kendrick Lamar - Mr. Morale & the Big Steppers
Pusha T - It’s Almost Dry

Best Music Video​

Adele - Easy on Me
BTS - Yet to Come
Doja Cat - Woman
Harry Styles - As It Was
Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5
Taylor Swift - All Too Well: The Short Film
 

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If Kendrick wins AOTY then kodak gets a Grammy too for being a featured artist
I understand, but he had one of the hottest street songs that turned pop and a great album released. Grammys so boring, you already know who going to be nominated. They for sure got the favorites and thatGod Did track so overrated, who legit listens to that after 1 listen
 
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Gold Derby predicts Future for Best Melodic Rap Performance

"Most people are expecting a full Kendrick Lamar sweep in the rap field, which is very possible. However, “Die Hard” might be the weakest of his nominations, especially since the song wasn’t a big single. Granted, Lamar has won here before with an album track (“These Walls”), but the hype for “Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers” doesn’t feel as big as it was for “To Pimp a Butterfly.” This is where Future, Drake and Tems’s “Wait for U” comes in, as one of the most acclaimed tracks of the year and an obvious commercial smash. The song is beloved by hip-hop fans due to its mixture of R&B and rap, and would be a good way to reward three artists who have dominated this year. It’s also arguably the biggest hit here, at least on urban radio.

That said, Jack Harlow overperformed in the rap field, so it’s not impossible that his “First Class” wins here, especially if voters want to award him somewhere after three years of nominations. Latto’s “Big Energy (Live)” also stands a chance; it was a big hit, and she’s the only woman nominated here. However, the hype for the song may have faded already, and the rap voters do tend to prefer more hip-hop tracks over the pop crossovers (see Kanye West‘s “Hurricane” beating Lil Nas X‘s “Industry Baby” and Doja Cat‘s “Need to Know” in this category last year).

Will win: Future feat. Drake and Tems, “Wait For U”
Likeliest upset: Kendrick Lamar feat. Blxst and Amanda Reifer, “Die Hard”
Dark horse: Jack Harlow, “First Class”


They also pick Kendrick Lamar for Best Rap Song

"This will definitely be between “Wait For U,” Lamar’s “The Heart Part 5,” and DJ Khaled and company’s “God Did.” It’s probably simplest to go with Lamar, as he is a Grammy darling. However, Jay-Z did beat him here last year with “Jail,” which begs the question of whether “God Did,” also aided by Jay, could do the same, especially after getting a surprise Song of the Year nomination.

Or maybe the two more serious-leaning rap songs will split some votes and open the door for “Wait For U” to scoop up a Grammy here. Future is double-nominated both here and in Melodic Rap Performance, so clearly voters are really into his work this year. Ultimately, you’ll want to go for whoever you think is winning Best Rap Performance, unless you think there’s a path for Future and take a chance on him.

Will win: Kendrick Lamar, “The Heart Part 5”
Likeliest upset: DJ Khaled feat. Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, John Legend, Jay-Z and Fridayy, “God Did”
Dark horse: Future feat. Drake and Tems, “Wait For U”

 
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Gold Derby picks Kendrick for both Best Rap Performance AND Best Rap Album

This will be a battle between the two general field-nominated songs: Kendrick Lamar’s “The Heart Part 5” and DJ Khaled and company’s “God Did.” On one hand, Lamar is a field darling and wins more often than not. “Heart” was also a splashy moment, although it wasn’t as big as other songs that have won for him like “Humble” or “Family Ties.” Despite that, the song was nominated across the board, so it’s hard to deny how beloved it is by voters. Granted, the case for “God Did” is also strong: it’s arguably a more talked-about song, it includes what many consider one of Jay-Z’s best features ever, and the track has many previous winners involved, like Jay, Lil Wayne, Khaled, and John Legend. Its Song of the Year nomination is also proof of how beloved it is.

Even though Lamar’s song has more general field nominations (both Record of the Year and Song of the Year, while “God Did” only has Song of the Year), one could argue that “God Did” has just as much passion when it comes to rap voters specifically. And as proven by Tyler the Creator’s victory over Kanye West’s Album of the Year-nominated “Donda” last year, genre wins don’t necessarily correlate with general field love. I’m going with Lamar here, with “God Did” close behind. If you’re looking for a dark horse, then it could be Doja Cat’s “Vegas,” which is the biggest hit out of the bunch.

Will win: Kendrick Lamar, “The Heart Part 5”
Likeliest upset: DJ Khaled feat. Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, John Legend and Fridayy, “God Did”
Dark horse: Doja Cat, “Vegas”


It’s going to take a miracle for anyone that’s not named Kendrick Lamar to win here. “Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers” performed the best out of every album here when it comes to year-end critics’ lists. It was the only album here that was truly acclaimed, besides maybe Pusha T’s “It’s Almost Dry.” On top of that, Lamar is a Grammy darling and was nominated pretty much everywhere he submitted, including Album of the Year.

None of the other nominees seem very strong anyway. Jack Harlow and DJ Khaled should be grateful they’re nominated. Future‘s “I Never Liked You” could win since it’s arguably the most commercially successful project here, but his chances might be better in other categories. The aforementioned Pusha T could be a dark horse much like Tyler the Creator last year, but unlike Tyler he has never won or even been acknowledged by the Grammys in a major way, and there isn’t that much hype for the album. Long story short, Lamar has this in the bag.

Will win: Kendrick Lamar, “Mr. Morale and the Big Steppers”
Likeliest upset: Future, “I Never Liked You”
Dark horse: Pusha T, “It’s Almost Dry”
 
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Vulture says that Kendrick Lamar WILL win Best Rap Performance but Glorilla SHOULD win

Best Rap Performance
“God Did,” DJ Khaled featuring Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, John Legend, & Fridayy
“Vegas,” Doja Cat
“Pushin P,” Gunna & Future featuring Young Thug
“F.N.F. (Let’s Go),” HitKidd & GloRilla
“The Heart Part 5,” Kendrick Lamar

Absent a breakout single from Mr. Morale, Team Kendrick is all in on "The Heart Part 5," the fifth in Lamar's series of check-in songs that preceded his new album and started a whole discourse cycle with its video. Last year, when Baby Keem and Lamar won for "Family Ties," we learned that it doesn't matter what Lamar is nominated for here - if his name's on something, he's winning. (He already has five wins in this category, all racked up in just the last eight years.) If anything, though, Lamar's past dominance should be an excuse for the Gramms to break out of their comfort zone here. This category offers the best chance to recognize one of the emcees currently setting the pace in rap, in Gunna, or another who's starting to, in GloRilla.


Will win: "The Heart Part 5"


Should win: "EN.F (Let's Go)"

 
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The Guardian says that Kendrick Lamar SHOULD win Song Of The Year but Harry Styles or Lizzo WILL win

Adele - Easy on Me • Beyoncé - Break My Soul • Bonnie Raitt - Just Like That O DI Khaled - God Did ft Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-Z, John Legend and Friday • Gayle - ABCDEFU Harry Styles - As It Was • Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5 • Lizzo - About Damn Time • Steve Lacy - Bad Habit • Taylor Swift - All Too Well (10 Minute Version) (The Short Film)


Slim pickings: the most boring songs on the otherwise great Adele and Beyoncé albums; the focus-grouped "empowerment" of ABCDEFU and About Damn Time. Of the biggest hits here, Steve Lacy's appealingly scruffy breakout anthem pips Harry Styles' seductive but weightless As It Was.


Bonnie Raitt's Just Like That is the outlier, a heartfelt country song about telling a bereaved mother about the life saved by her late son's donated heart; DJ Khaled's overstuffed eight-minute track would have been better cut to the four minutes it takes Jay-Z to claim his dues on a - fairly rare nowadays


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That leaves Kendrick Lamar's pre-album opus, which switches between empathy and indictment as he mounts a complex consideration of the balance between personal agency and social conditioning, and Swift's expansion of a 2011 song of heartbreak into a sharp-toothed condemnation of the age and power imbalance in that relationship. Swift has had six total nominations for this category and never won; Lamar three. His is arguably the more trenchant song, but Lamar has never won any Grammys outside the rap categories (other than for the music video award) while Swift is a Grammys darling - and besides, this award has previous for picking crowdpleasers, so prepare to watch Styles or Lizzo walk off with it. LS


Should win Kendrick Lamar


Will win Lizzo or Harry Styles

 
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The Guardian says that Kendrick Lamar WILL win Best Rap Performance but Glorilla SHOULD win it

DJ Khaled - God Did ft Rick Ross, Lil Wayne, Jay-2, John Legend and Fridayy


• Doja Cat - Vegas • Gunna and Future - Pushin P ft Young Thug • Hitkidd and Glorilla - FNF (Let's Go) • Kendrick Lamar - The Heart Part 5


This is a truly bizarre nomination list. You have God Did, a superstar team-up featuring a handful of rap old-timers; Vegas, which was featured in the Elvis biopic and interpolates Mama Thornton; Pushin P, seemingly a wan industry concession to the fact that Gunna and Young Thug were imprisoned on gang-related charges that have been widely questioned; FNF (Let's Go), a gruff viral sensation; and The Heart Part 5, a Kendrick Lamar outlier that served as a prelude to his latest record but which wasn't included on it. Although awarding Vegas seems like the kind of wild choice the Grammys would make, it feels like this is the place where the voting body will choose to honour Lamar instead of the main categories. SD


Should win Hitkidd and Glorilla


Will win Kendrick Lamar

 
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