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He's not beating Raleigh....
Not in total homers, but there’s no justifying a guy getting the mvp when he’s hitting .245 on the year. Roger Maris at .269 is the only mvp winner to hit below .270 while judge has an ops that’s currently 180 points higher. Judge’s average is 60 points higher and his OBP is 93 points higher. If McGwire didn’t get it while hitting 70 homers with 140+ RBI’s and an ops above 1.200 then we need to accept that the precedent of total home runs doesn’t decide that on its own.
 

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Not in total homers, but there’s no justifying a guy getting the mvp when he’s hitting .245 on the year. Roger Maris at .269 is the only mvp winner to hit below .270 while judge has an ops that’s currently 180 points higher. Judge’s average is 60 points higher and his OBP is 93 points higher. If McGwire didn’t get it while hitting 70 homers with 140+ RBI’s and an ops above 1.200 then we need to accept that the precedent of total home runs doesn’t decide that on its own.
Traditional points suggest Judge. But, position/power rarity top 3 in HR/R/RBIs also I think he's top 5 in OPS as well. The writers are probably going to give it to Raleigh.

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Not in total homers, but there’s no justifying a guy getting the mvp when he’s hitting .245 on the year. Roger Maris at .269 is the only mvp winner to hit below .270 while judge has an ops that’s currently 180 points higher. Judge’s average is 60 points higher and his OBP is 93 points higher. If McGwire didn’t get it while hitting 70 homers with 140+ RBI’s and an ops above 1.200 then we need to accept that the precedent of total home runs doesn’t decide that on its own.
Who the fukk is saying it's just about home runs :dahell:

Doing that, as an elite defensive catcher, and as a switch hitter...is absolutely unprecedented, all while leading a playoff race....stop thinking this is just homers
 

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I think Raleigh gets mvp over judge because of the narrative and voter fatigue. Catchers tend to have more of the intangibles that writers adore like the game calling aspect. If he hits 63 hr then it’s 100% his. MVP isn’t the best player award so it’s not always about stats otherwise judge would win hands down.
 

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Look at cal raheigh stats before this season

dude sucked :dahell: 58 hrs 121 rbis and the best slash line he ever had . Give him the mvp he’s never doing this again
I can't remember if it was @Regular_P or @Remote but before the season started, one of them mentioned how underwhelming and disappointing Cal Raleigh has been. I don't feel like going back to look.
 
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