Essential The Official Boxing Random Thoughts Thread...All boxing heads ENTER.
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very nice, especially when Showtime already has Maidana/Josesito Lopez & Lara/Angulo that night too.
And yea, i'd let my girl smell my dikk whenever she wants.
I always gave Manny credit. He was dominant in his wins. I loved Manny. I lost respect when he dodged this test for 3 years. I never suspected him of cheating, but when FMS brought it up and they were on some we dont have nothin to prove shyt....I was done. Cheating accusations is not something you take lightly. When someone accuses you of that shyt...you dont sue while at the same time refusing to take a test. No, you agree to take the tests and then sue. Mayweather was the draw and the main target and this campaign to fight Floyd began back when Pac left Featherweight.
WTF
gotta break it down so nikkas understand.
now lets attach a monetary amount to that. I'll just pull an arbitrary figure out of the air and say....would you do it for $40 million if u knew u were cheating? :mike:
I'd be much more concerned about what my wife would do to me than what Floyd would do for a guaranteed $40 mil (but likely $80 mil total). Furthermore, by me taking a random blood test and passing, that casts doubt on any previous notion that I was doping.
If you dont take a drug test for $40 mil, I have no doubt you have something to hide.
boi I can blow wholes all through that post...
you just said the top draw and how much someone gets paid is two different things...then proceeded to give figures that FMJ made more than Pac yet Floyd only fought once. where u get that Pac vs Marg was in 2011?
"When floyd made the 40 milliom take it or leave it demand Pac hadn't loss since he fought El Terrible"
Floyd hadnt lost since.....well, the word lost doesnt seem to be coming up when I google FMJ, thats funny.
Margarito revenue was around $70 mil. Closer to $60 ($64 mil to be exact, you dont round off 64 to 70)
What is fact however is Mayweather generated close to $90 million ($87 mil was the correct number) in one fight.
Pac agreed to ALL TESTS, COMPLETELY RANDOM??? ok, here is what I am gonna need for you to do for me from here on out. :dkufdup: I am gonna need you to cite your sources. that shyt was damn near after the fact.
Mosley did beat DLH first, hence he was named P4P before Floyd or Pac. Hence he was a bigger draw than both. So you just proved my point. The issue is Mosely has been losing since, as has Manny, but not Floyd. Yet, he still is the highest paid ATHLETE..not just boxer.
:dkufdup: then you have the audacity to turn around and say that Pac became a draw because he beat aDLH??? after you just asked "so what if Floyd beat Oscar first?"
the ONLY REASON he was gaining more notoriety for those fights against Hatton and DLH is because people were comparing them to their fights with Floyd.
this is fact....DLH vs Floyd was an intriguing matchup that a lot of people thought DLH would win. the Pac fight was fukkin fool's gold if I ever seen it. I can call on several witnesses that will tell you when everyone was saying DLH was bigger, stronger, and had one-punch KO power and he was gonna beat Manny...they looked at me like I was crazy because I stated that "DLH has virtually no chance of winning this fight"
cosign the bolded..i was one of those cats that said all that shyt....i mentioned this on the gambling thread but this was one of the few high profile fights i lost money on..who knew oscar's silly ass would come into that fight weightdrained
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fukk!!! not again
Floyd Mayweather was still the favorite in the fight against DLH though breh.
And just because you say that you knew Pac would beat DLH doesnt change the fact that Pac was still the underdog coming into the fight.
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Bute/Pascal rescheduled to December 7th 
cosign the bolded..i was one of those cats that said all that shyt....i mentioned this on the gambling thread but this was one of the few high profile fights i lost money on..who knew oscar's silly ass would come into that fight weightdrained
oh you were one of the ones thinking Oscar would win?
I dont even look at the weight drain as the issue or excuse. I never did. the things that I looked at were:
activity - Oscar was fighting an average of once a year, he fought 2 Pounds, and was getting touched in that. you have to stay active...and what I mean by that is, Oscar was never in shape unless he knew he had a fight coming up. the difference with Floyd and B-Hop is, they STAY in shape, not just during training camp.
speed - Oscar has fast hands, but his feet are slow and his head movement is non existent. Oscar not really a great boxer....thats a misconception. He is in the same class as Mosely...which is a step below FMJ. People tend to make the mistake of calling someone a great boxer because they have a great jab or can string together combinations.
workrate - Oscar didnt have a great workrate at that time, certainly not compared to Manny who was a tornado once he got going. with no head movement...Oscar was a sitting duck.
puncher's chance - Oscar didnt have much, because his KO punch was his left hook. too hard to set up against a fast guy like Manny with head movement and darting in and out. If Oscar had devastating one punch power with the straight right, that may have been a different story.
Paulie aint ask for chit! Somebody probably asked that fool what mixtape he was gonna download next or did he know any Spanish! This circus...boy I tell ya. Ok, so USADA is crooked and VADA isnt? Just like the IBF came along because the WBA/WBC were crooked. I am not saying USADA are totally impartial angels...but why the preference and side choosing. Boxing is a joke. One person says they want to clean up the sport, then the anti-doping agencies come under scrutiny. Just fight. Everybody is getting paid whether we like it or not. These judges dont get the call even if they dont favor particular fighters....thats why its more "robberies" in boxing than ever before. When you choose a promoter now, you are not just choosing them, you are choosing a governing body, anti-doping agency, gloves, judges, venues, etc. shyts too political and they wonder why people watching UFC.
thats why I used the term FOOLS GOLD. the reason for DLH being a favorite was based purely off his name. there was no reason to think that a guy getting touched by 2 Pounds could beat Pac
people thought SRL would beat Camacho. he was also favored over Norris.
casual fans that :udontknow: control the odds on betting in a fight of such magnitude. Tyson shouldve been the underdog in his last two fights but I'll betcha even after losing to McBride, had he fought any other soft touch he wouldve been the favorite still, even though he admitted he was only fighting for the IRS.
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thats why I used the term FOOLS GOLD. the reason for DLH being a favorite was based purely off his name. there was no reason to think that a guy getting touched by 2 Pounds could beat Pac
people thought SRL would beat Camacho. he was also favored over Norris.
casual fans that :udontknow: control the odds on betting in a fight of such magnitude. Tyson shouldve been the underdog in his last two fights but I'll betcha even after losing to McBride, had he fought any other soft touch he wouldve been the favorite still, even though he admitted he was only fighting for the IRS.
In all fairness though, I don't think a lot of people saw the ass whipping Manny put on Oscar coming in the fashion that he did. In the hindsight I guess the writing was on the wall, but Manny was still a Lightweight moving the 147 so you still had to think of how he'd perform. Though I always liked Pacquiao, the fight to me that proved he can fight the real Welters was against Cotto.