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[HARLEM AL]

Adrien Broner vs Lamont Peterson for the IBF title

They never would fight each other. They go in camp together.

 

[bigbadbossup2012]

2 weeks ago

To his credit he said: "if peterson dont get buzzed early"

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

To his credit he said: "if peterson dont get buzzed early"

yea whenever somebody is making bold ass statements they know can blow up in their face they always end their posts with a little insurance. a little "just in case"....maKNEEsay's power is overrated....he can't run through a "top" level fighter like lamont...he's gonna be in for a rude awakening. oh yea...this is only if lamont doesn't get hurt early...lol. that's how you know he didn't even believe the shyt he was saying. skip is cool, but we gotta tell it like it is. like harlem said...we all get shyt wrong. you can't call peterson a top 140 pounder, then when maKNEEsay destroys him you say he hasn't beaten anybody but khan. smh. after he lays out danny, they're gonna say danny was almost stopped by a flabby and sick zab judah. I aint sayin lucas is elite just yet, but dude is clearly on a mission and I don't see any of these junior welterweights givin him serious trouble.

 

[Newzz]

May 21, 2013

LINDER'S LOOK: CANELO IS MAYWEATHER'S ONLY OPTION
By Doveed Linder

Given the state of boxing from 140 through 154 pounds, it seems that world junior middleweight champion Saul “Canelo” Alvarez is Floyd Mayweather’s only option for a viable opponent later this year. Although boxing's complicated ssystem of sanctioning bodies, broadcast network and promotional rivalries often put the most intriguing fights unlikely to occur, the names on fans' wishlistsof potential Mayweather opponents include Manny Pacquiao, Timothy Bradley, Adrien Broner, Danny Garcia, Lucas Matthysse, Devon Alexander, Amir Khan, and of course Alvarez. Let's take a quick look at each one's availability and viability:

Pacquiao is scheduled to fight Brandon Rios in December of this year (a fight that Pacquiao needs to win if he is going to remain in the discussion for major fights). Plus, given the fact that Pacquiao-Mayweather negotiations have fallen apart in the past, it is unlikely that these two will ever meet.

Bradley is scheduled to face Juan Manuel Marquez in the fall.

Broner is scheduled to face Paulie Malignaggi in June, plus Mayweather and Broner seem to have a bond outside the ring that would keep them from fighting.

Danny Garcia and Lucas Matthysse are tentatively set to fight each other for Garcia's world junior welterweight championship.

Besides Alvarez, this leaves Devon Alexander and Amir Khan. Neither one currently has a fight scheduled but neither one has enough momentum going at this time to warrant a pay-per-view event against Mayweather. While Khan would attract the interest of large numbers of British and Muslim fans, that should be irrelevant given his career's recent downturn.

Since Mayweather’s return to the ring in 2009, he has faced opponents who had come off of meaningful victories. Juan Manuel Marquez was coming off of two back to back stoppage wins over Joel Casamayor and Juan Diaz, Shane Mosley had just knocked out Antonio Margarito, Victor Ortiz had just beaten Andre Berto, Miguel Cotto had defeated Margarito, and Robert Guerrero beat Berto. If Alexander was coming fresh off of his win over Marcos Maidana, maybe Mayweather-Alexander would be a strong possibility. The same thing can be said of Khan’s victory over Zab Judah. But the energy around Alexander and Khan have diminished since their biggest wins (Alexander has remained unbeaten since then though he has been somewhat inactive, while Khan has suffered two losses), which removes them from the equation of mega fights.

With all of the major players at 140, 147 and 154, this leaves Alvarez as the only attractive promotion for Floyd Mayweather. And what a promotion it would be! The bout that would feature two undefeated fighters, both who have big followings. Some say that Mayweather-Alvarez is a fight that should wait, given Canelo’s lack of experience. In my view, it’s a win-win fight for Team Canelo. Should Canelo lose, he would be several million dollars richer and he will still be a marketable fighter, because there would be no shame in losing to the perceived best fighter in the world. Also, Mayweather's style of boxing is unlikely to leave Alvarez seriously damaged, even if he does lose.

For Mayweather, there is a bit of risk involved, because if he were to come up short, he would lose the aura of invincibility which has made him the highest paid athlete in the world. Many Mayweather critics (myself included) have accused him of avoiding the best available competition, and instead fighting B+ level fighters coming off big wins. If Mayweather takes the fight with Canelo, his critics will be forced to give him credit for taking on a young lion who has a realistic chance of winning. If he fights someone else or stays on the sidelines until something else comes along, it will only reinforce the idea that he is unwilling to fight the best.

BOXINGTALK : LINDER'S LOOK: CANELO IS MAYWEATHER'S ONLY OPTION

 

[surv2syn]

yea whenever somebody is making bold ass statements they know can blow up in their face they always end their posts with a little insurance. a little "just in case"....matthyse's power is overrated....he can't run through a "top" level fighter like lamont...he's gonna be in for a rude awakening. oh yea...this is only if lamont doesn't get hurt early...lol. that's how you know he didn't even believe the shyt he was saying. skip is cool, but we gotta tell it like it is. like harlem said...we all get shyt wrong. you can't call peterson a top 140 pounder, then when matthyse destroys him you say he hasn't beaten anybody but khan. smh. after he lays out danny, they're gonna say danny was almost stopped by a flabby and sick zab judah. I aint sayin lucas is elite just yet, but dude is clearly on a mission and I don't see any of these junior welterweights givin him serious trouble.

I have no problem admitting I was wrong, but I dont feel he wont have problems with the jmws. Its the same guy that fought Zab and Devon, somehow people think its not. He may have improved slightly but overall, I dont see a huge difference. The Peterson KO got people going out of their minds right now but it was the same LM vs a different opponent. I just re-watched his 2 "losses" and he had a hard time really landing on those guys and thats the difference. Granted they were both southpaws and he was hitting them with the straight right. He wasnt landing the left hook like that and when they boxed him from the outside he wasnt effective landing his power because he couldnt get his feet set. Plus his balance wasnt that good on some of his shots but those guys are not really the type counterpunchers that take advantage. Devon and Zab like to play defense and then go on offense. When they got hurt they started counterpunching and moving and he wasnt able to get them out of their. The biggest difference about those guys is, they were much better defensively and spacing wise than Peterson and they had good head movement. Zab has a lot left, so I give Garcia credit for that victory. I still think a Zab rematch with LM plays out the same way, the only difference is, LM may do enough to get the win. A Garcia fight is a tough fight. Garcia is much more rounded. It depends on if he can get a gameplan and stick to it.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Styles make fights


nikkaz still be on this
"if fighter-A beats fighter-B,
and fighter-B beats fighter-C,
then fighter-C cant beat fighter-A"

This nikka Danny better pull a Floyd Maynever and "retire from the sport of boxing" aka go on a vacation because we already know whats finna happen whether you wanna admit it or not


Ill give him the benefit of the doubt though, he seems like he has heart even though I saw the fear in his face

 

[SuikodenII]

I think Chambers is better suited for CW. Chambers fast as shyt but he always been fat. Byrd was not fat as a HW. Byrd was a better HW than anything else but Chambers likely better as a CW.

did anyone take u up on that user status challenge?

True.

And hell nah...I've been trying to get somebody to take that bet since before Matthysse/Peterson was a signed fight

 

[Black_Jesus]

@Skip b

You aint consistent breh

 

[Skip b]

@Skip b

You aint consistent breh

Yall funny, what dont yall understand if he dont get buzzed early, I'm not one of the people who acted like Peterson was Mayweather, I acknowledged his shaky chin, and Khan a lower B class fighter boxing his head off and putting him on his ass twice, not to mention no power Bradley putting him on his ass also. Peterson showed he could box in round one but he got confident early, contrary to what I thought was gonna play out and he paid,....................

 

[HARLEM AL]

What I seen from Lucas in that Peterson fight is although he can't cut off the ring that good(ok at best) he does pressure well.

Also he picks off a lot punches off his glove. Those jabs from Lamont wasn't getting through.

He fights zab or Alexander again he fukks them up. The main problem he had in those fights is he started to late.

 

[Skip b]

What I seen from Lucas in that Peterson fight is although he can't cut off the ring that good(ok at best) he does pressure well.

Also he picks off a lot punches off his glove. Those jabs from Lamont wasn't getting through.

He fights zab or Alexander again he fukks them up. The main problem he had in those fights is he started to late.

Peterson doesnt posses a elite jab thats why, he rather sit in the pocket and deliver his punishment

 

[HARLEM AL]

Peterson dosnt posses a elite jab thats why, he rather sit in the pocket and deliver his punishment

He has a good jab. That shyt didn't mean anything because dude was picking them off.

 

[Skip b]

He has a good jab. That shyt didn't mean anything because dude was picking them off.

Why wasnt LM picking off bum ass Ajose shots

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

Peterson doesnt posses a elite jab thats why, he rather sit in the pocket and deliver his punishment

Peterson also wasn't sticking his jab, he was fighting off his back foot the whole three rounds...

Anyways I agree with Harlem, Matthysse whoops Zab if they go at it again...Devon will still give him problems though...

 

[HARLEM AL]

It's boxing, you going to get hit. Some more then others. Everybody ain't Floyd.

shyt look at Broner. That nikka gets hit cleanly and often.