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168 would be a mistake IMO. unless he is willing to take short money to go over and face Froch. he needs to be Winky Wright 2.0 he needs to go overseas and fight himself back up. Winky was never an exciting fighter but made a damn good living making others look bad. Actually, being KOed may give him more quick title opportunities as you said. I could see the winner of Pascal-Bute giving him a defense...especially if its Bute. They are looking at the fact that he is a name guy with credentials in a desperate situation but likely damaged goods.

I think the days of people thinking he's elite are over but you're correct about the overseas thing.

He won't beat any top 175 besides Bute but at 168 there are some nice money fights against big name euro comp he could beat (Abraham,Groves,Kessler)

I remember before Ward people thought he was a top 10 p4p. Dude is talented but so mentally fragile and was beating on old men who couldn't hurt him.
 

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Only just watched the Golden Boy card. Angulo man :beli:

Out here fighting face first it was bound to happen. Maidana/Lopez was decent whilst it lasted, think it was a fair stoppage
 

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I think the days of people thinking he's elite are over but you're correct about the overseas thing.

He won't beat any top 175 besides Bute but at 168 there are some nice money fights against big name euro comp he could beat (Abraham,Groves,Kessler)

I remember before Ward people thought he was a top 10 p4p. Dude is talented but so mentally fragile and was beating on old men who couldn't hurt him.

talent wise he was P4P but there is so much more to boxing than talent. mentally, he just doesnt seem concentrated, especially his preparation for fights. Stevenson is such an easy guy to scout for. :pachaha: basically, use your reach and defense. especially early. dude dont have but one punch. nothing against Muhammad but Chad needed Steward. also Floyd Sr. would be great for him...but I remember when he fired Big Floyd sayin "Floyd dont know how to talk to people". Thats Floyd though...he talks shyt to you when you are lazy especially. Seen him talkin shyt to Eubank Jr. :mike:

on another note. lets give Stevenson credit for what he did. it was an easy game plan. they told him...."as soon as he stick that lazy jab out there...unload with full power"
 

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talent wise he was P4P but there is so much more to boxing than talent. mentally, he just doesnt seem concentrated, especially his preparation for fights. Stevenson is such an easy guy to scout for. :pachaha: basically, use your reach and defense. especially early. dude dont have but one punch. nothing against Muhammad but Chad needed Steward. also Floyd Sr. would be great for him...but I remember when he fired Big Floyd sayin "Floyd dont know how to talk to people". Thats Floyd though...he talks shyt to you when you are lazy especially. Seen him talkin shyt to Eubank Jr. :mike:

on another note. lets give Stevenson credit for what he did. it was an easy game plan. they told him...."as soon as he stick that lazy jab out there...unload with full power"

Someone mentioned it before but after this performance Stevenson vs Hopkins has some traction

Stevenson is basic but his pimp hand is strong and he can fight at 168-175. The possibilities for him are :ohlawd:

You're right about Dawson needing motivation but can he take criticism intended to motivate?
It seems not but he should look at trainers specifically Robert Garcia who helped a mentally damaged Pavlik

This nikka acting too extra :crazy:
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He moved up and became the linear 175 champion with a simple one-two combo
shyt played out like a fairytale for him. He was avoided but now those who avoided have to pay attention

He changed it all with a simple combo :wow:
 

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talent wise he was P4P but there is so much more to boxing than talent. mentally, he just doesnt seem concentrated, especially his preparation for fights. Stevenson is such an easy guy to scout for. :pachaha: basically, use your reach and defense. especially early. dude dont have but one punch. nothing against Muhammad but Chad needed Steward. also Floyd Sr. would be great for him...but I remember when he fired Big Floyd sayin "Floyd dont know how to talk to people". Thats Floyd though...he talks shyt to you when you are lazy especially. Seen him talkin shyt to Eubank Jr. :mike:

on another note. lets give Stevenson credit for what he did. it was an easy game plan. they told him...."as soon as he stick that lazy jab out there...unload with full power"

Was this recent or when Jr was based over in the US before he turned pro
 

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Was this recent or when Jr was based over in the US before he turned pro

when he was in the U.S. before pro. but not just him. Floyd talks to everybody like that...even Oscar. Floyd ghetto. and apparently Chad takes stuff like that personal. but those guys are there to work, not baby you. Chad also must realize, it has to be frustrating for top guys to work with him and see he is not getting the most out of his potential and skills.

on another note...everybody and their mother wants Stevenson now. he is lucky Bernard has that fight against Murat or B-Hop would sign that fight today.
 

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:snoop: I remember Dawson first fight vs Pascal the day before the fight hiis trainer was at the club drunk as fukk and picked up a hooker, Dawson needs a better team
 
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