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[ChocolateGiddyUp]

No, you stop it. Here are the facts:

1. Mayweather initially asked for 10 oz (154lbs and up) gloves. Pacquiao naturally said no. They agreed to normal 8 oz gloves (147lbs and below).

2. Mayweather initially asked the fight be contested at 154 lbs. Pacquiao naturally said no. They agreed to 147lbs.

3. Mayweather asked for a big ring, Pacquiao a normal sized ring. They agreed on the big ring.

4. Pacquiao asked for the 10 mil penalty for each pound overweight. They agreed to that. But remember- only reason Pacquaio asked for that stipulation was cuz Mayweather had AGREED to a catchweight with Marquez for their fight and then day of weigh in came overweight with check IN HAND. Naturally Pacquiao wanted to protect himself.

5. Pac wanted 50/50 split, Mayweather had always agreed to that until the last round of their negotiations, where he wanted to give Pacquaio a laughable flat $40 million with no PPV $? Mind you the PPV earnings ALONE were projected to be $100 million

6. Both fighters went back and forth on the drug testing, with the first round them being off on 4 days, and the final 2 rounds Pacquiao AGREEING to full drug testing. If you dont believe that part, google it.

And Pac's not fighting in the US simply cuz the tax rate increased to almost 40%!!! How much is it in Macau? 12%. Its a no brainer and honestly if Mayweather were smart HE'D fight in Macau too since the taxes are dramatically cheaper, the casino district their generates TEN TIMES more $ than Vegas does! (google it if you dont believe me).

Wtf are you talking about

When did Floyd want the fight at 154?? Never have heard that shyt ever...Floyd ALWAYS want 8oz gloves even when he fights at 154 he tries to get 8 oz gloves

wanted like a month then 24 days then 14 days cutoff....that's not fukking RANDOM testing N sure as hell not off by "4 days"

Floyd fight in China tf is you smoking breh

 

[Black_Jesus]

Stop it

had more then his fair share of demands that Floyd agreed to...glove size, ring size, 10 Milly penalty each pound overweight, 50/50 split

Floyd had one fukking request N it was nothing but bytch ass excuses from Team scary of needles, it'll make him weak, how bout this cut off date, how bout that cut off date, emails talking bout what if we drop dirty

This nikka PAC is talking bout never fighting in the US again, Arum leaving your boy broke brain damaged N in the gutter....I bet 40 million looks damn good right bout now

Yo did you cream your panties when you saw Floydie last night?

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Yo did you cream your panties when you saw Floydie last night?

I felt like a preteen at a Justin Beiber concert

Too bad you gotta go to China to see its gotta be hard to stan overseas

 

[SuikodenII]

J’Leon Love suspended 6 months, 10K fine, win overturned - Boxing News

by David P. Greisman

Middleweight prospect J’Leon Love has been suspended for six months, fined $10,000 and had his win over Gabriel Rosado overturned as a result of his testing positive for a banned diuretic.

The punishment was unanimously approved by the Nevada Athletic Commission at its June 28 hearing. The $10,000 is one-tenth of his $100,000 purse. The suspension will expire in early November, as it dates back to the night of his fight.

Love had tested positive for Hydrochlorothiazide. Diuretics cause a person to urinate more, and they can also be used as masking agents. Love did have difficulty making weight for this bout. He arrived late for the weigh-in, came in over the limit at 161.5 pounds and then came back later to make 160.

Love would go on to win a debated split decision over Rosado on the undercard to Floyd Mayweather vs. Robert Guerrero, bringing his record to 16-0 with 8 knockouts. That win will now be a “no contest” instead, which means the 25-year-old is once again 15-0. Rosado returns to 21-6 with 13 knockouts.

Love admitted to using the diuretic and not disclosing that on his prefight medical questionnaire.

His attorney asked for leniency, appealing to the commissioners to consider that Love’s older brother had been murdered in late March, that Love was left to help find a way to care for his brother’s nine children, and that Love had made some poor choices.

Nevertheless, Love told commissioners that he took “full responsibility” for his actions.

He said that he had lost 12 pounds in one day prior to taking the pill. But when the final weight wasn’t coming off, and with just one day to go, he took a pill — without asking what it was — from strength and conditioning coach Bob Ware.

Ware told him that the pill would get the water out of his system, Love said.

Afterward, “I was up all night in the gym trying to lose the weight. Even after, we realized the pill didn’t work,” Love testified to the commissioners. “We had to go lose it. The pill was just in my system. It didn’t help me lose anything.”

Despite having taken the pill barely 24 hours before the weigh-in, he didn’t mention it on the commission questionnaire.

“I didn’t think to put it down,” Love said. “I wasn’t trying to hide anything.”

He said he’s never taken any other pills from anyone.

Earlier in the hearing, he told the commission: “I never took anything in my life. I’ve never done drugs. I can pass a drug test any day of the week.”

He told the commission that he is no longer working with Ware.

After handing down the punishment, the commission briefly discussed the prospect of a disciplinary hearing for Ware.

Love wasn’t the only boxer on that card to come up positive for a banned diuretic. Matt Garretson, a super middleweight who fought much earlier in the day, came up positive for Furosemide. Garretson lost his bout against Lanell Bellows via fourth-round stoppage and is now 2-1 with 1 knockout. Bellows is now 4-0-1 with 4 knockouts.

Garretson was fined $900, or 30 percent of his $3,000 purse, and was suspended for nine months.

Other boxers have tested positive in recent years for Furosemide, which is also known as Lasix. Those names include Ricardo Mayorga and Rosendo Alvarez in 2006, Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. in 2009, and Joan Guzman in 2010, and James De La Rosa last month.

Ali Funeka tested positive for Hydrochlorothiazide in 2010.

Justice is served.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

JCCjr fine dropped from 900k to 100k


:smugjr:

 

[L68]

any word on rigos next move?

 

[Black_Jesus]

I felt like a preteen at a Justin Beiber concert

Too bad you gotta go to China to see its gotta be hard to stan overseas

Not mad at all.. I can stan Pac perfectly fine through my flatscreen... Pac Is a boss why should he have to travel thousands of miles to fight instead of letting the contenders.come to him... especially since the US is tryin to rape international fighters taking 40% of their revenue... fighting in China is a brilliant move actually the more I think about it..

 

[HamAndEgger]

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Wtf are you talking about

When did Floyd want the fight at 154?? Never have heard that shyt ever...Floyd ALWAYS want 8oz gloves even when he fights at 154 he tries to get 8 oz gloves

wanted like a month then 24 days then 14 days cutoff....that's not fukking RANDOM testing N sure as hell not off by "4 days"

Floyd fight in China tf is you smoking breh

Floyd did say he wanted the fight at 154 in the first round of negotiations. Google it if you dont believe me. It was ludicrous when he first brought it up, yes I know. And he wanted 10 oz gloves for that reason, since it would be at 154. Both requests were shot down obviously.

And yes, the first round of negotiations they were off by 14 days. SECOND round of negotiations they were off by 4 days. Last round of negotiations agreed to all tests. If youre feeling like St. Thomas, then google it. I know my ish son.

And my point was that Floyd would stand to make more $ if he did fight in Macau. Thats not my opinion b, thats a fact- US taxes 39.6% of his earnings. Macau would tax 12.6% of his earnings. The laws of math tell you he would make more $ fighting there. And dont scoff at the notion of Floyd fighting internationally: boxing used to be a international sport in its glory days and at its highest points. Its only this generation did it become more of a US (Vegas) sport as the popularity of the sport decreased. But please believe if Pacs fight in Macau is as much of a success as projected, more and more fights will find its way there. Why do you think theyre trynna make Khan-Alexander in Dubai? Theyre realizing the big $ is outside the US, not in it.

 

[Black_Jesus]

Floyd did say he wanted the fight at 154 in the first round of negotiations. Google it if you dont believe me. It was ludicrous when he first brought it up, yes I know. And he wanted 10 oz gloves for that reason, since it would be at 154. Both requests were shot down obviously.

And yes, the first round of negotiations they were off by 14 days. SECOND round of negotiations they were off by 4 days. Last round of negotiations agreed to all tests. If youre feeling like St. Thomas, then google it. I know my ish son.

And my point was that Floyd would stand to make more $ if he did fight in Macau. Thats not my opinion b, thats a fact- US taxes 39.6% of his earnings. Macau would tax 12.6% of his earnings. The laws of math tell you he would make more $ fighting there. And dont scoff at the notion of Floyd fighting internationally: boxing used to be a international sport in its glory days and at its highest points. Its only this generation did it become more of a US (Vegas) sport as the popularity of the sport decreased. But please believe if Pacs fight in Macau is as much of a success as projected, more and more fights will find its way there. Why do you think theyre trynna make Khan-Alexander is Dubai? Theyre realizing the big $ is outside the US, not in it.

Floydies Xylocaine is probably illegal over their just like it is in the US for every state except Nevada

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Floyd did say he wanted the fight at 154 in the first round of negotiations. Google it if you dont believe me. It was ludicrous when he first brought it up, yes I know. And he wanted 10 oz gloves for that reason, since it would be at 154. Both requests were shot down obviously.

And yes, the first round of negotiations they were off by 14 days. SECOND round of negotiations they were off by 4 days. Last round of negotiations agreed to all tests. If youre feeling like St. Thomas, then google it. I know my ish son.

And my point was that Floyd would stand to make more $ if he did fight in Macau. Thats not my opinion b, thats a fact- US taxes 39.6% of his earnings. Macau would tax 12.6% of his earnings. The laws of math tell you he would make more $ fighting there. And dont scoff at the notion of Floyd fighting internationally: boxing used to be a international sport in its glory days and at its highest points. Its only this generation did it become more of a US (Vegas) sport as the popularity of the sport decreased. But please believe if Pacs fight in Macau is as much of a success as projected, more and more fights will find its way there. Why do you think theyre trynna make Khan-Alexander is Dubai? Theyre realizing the big $ is outside the US, not in it.

Oh OK you have no proof bout the bullshyt you talking bout just as I thought

There's a big difference in an Asian like fighting in China backed by Chinas #1 boxer on the undercard then Floyd a black man fighting in China....not to mention the deal Floyd has wit MGM N boxers not wanting to fight in China like Bradley

**edit **

OK so after digging Roach N TR said Floyd wanted the fight at 154 N quickly said its at 147... hardly a demand N never from Floyd's Mouth...we can believe errything Roach N Arum says tho they'd would never lie bout negotiations

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Floydies Xylocaine is probably illegal over their just like it is in the US for every state except Nevada

 

[Newzz]

Floydies Xylocaine is probably illegal over their just like it is in the US for every state except Nevada

I think somebody can pull some strings so that he will still be allowed to use this illegal substance.........:smughaymon:

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

Oh OK you have no proof bout the bullshyt you talking bout just as I thought

There's a big difference in an Asian like fighting in China backed by Chinas #1 boxer on the undercard then Floyd a black man fighting in China....not to mention the deal Floyd has wit MGM N boxers not wanting to fight in China like Bradley

**edit **

OK so after digging Roach N TR said Floyd wanted the fight at 154 N quickly said its at 147... hardly a demand N never from Floyd's Mouth...we can believe errything Roach N Arum says tho they'd would never lie bout negotiations

Cmon bro, it was a demand. Cuz if they said okay then it would have happened that way. And then during the promotional tour FLoyd would be telling reporters "Actually, they agreed to those terms, so when Floyd Mayweathers team tells him this, Floyd Mayweather agrees to it." And we ALREADY know Floyd always tries to win the negotiations-demands war. He wanted Canelo to come down to 147 initially!

And dont get it twisted- Tyson-Douglas was in Japan. At boxings height, fights were international irregardless of the actual combatants' ethnicity/heritage. Mayweather is globally known. If he decides to fight in Macau, itll be a great event cuz internationally, these billionaires like to finance great events that will make $. They could care less whos making them the $.

 

[Newzz]

But like I said, I dont have any bad things to say about Floyd because he DID take the fight with Saul Alvarez.


That's good for boxing and better for Floyd's resume.


I just wanna see some good boxing like in the ol days