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[Mr. Leonidas]

But like I said, I dont have any bad things to say about Floyd because he DID take the fight with Saul Alvarez.


That's good for boxing and better for Floyd's resume.


I just wanna see some good boxing like in the ol days

How??? Canelos BEST opponent is Austin Trout...






...Austin Dwayne Trout.



This is a fight that will greatly benefit Mayweathers bank accts. Outside of Pacquiao, its his biggest possible purse due to Canelos huge following. But the reality is resume wise it doesnt do much for him since everybody already knows Canelos a kid, has been largely hyped and groomed off a fighting plantain pickers in Mexico, and is taking a meteoric jump in competition in fighting Floyd. I can hear the critics now when Floyd unanimously outpoints Canelo via decision-and the critics will be right.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Cmon bro, it was a demand. Cuz if they said okay then it would have happened that way. And then during the promotional tour FLoyd would be telling reporters "Actually, they agreed to those terms, so when Floyd Mayweathers team tells him this, Floyd Mayweather agrees to it." And we ALREADY know Floyd always tries to win the negotiations-demands war. He wanted Canelo to come down to 147 initially!

And dont get it twisted- Tyson-Douglas was in Japan. At boxings height, fights were international irregardless of the actual combatants' ethnicity/heritage. Mayweather is globally known. If he decides to fight in Macau, itll be a great event cuz internationally, these billionaires like to finance great events that will make $. They could care less whos making them the $.

OK but if anything doesn't that show Floyd wanted the fight?? got EVERYTHING he wanted from the A side yet doesn't want to take random tests that Floyd will also take

Tyson was a long ass time ago...that was the heavyweight division N boxing was a lot more mainstream....you think Arum would be in China without the Chinese dude he got?? Ain't it fukked up for TR to charge the Chinese $5 for ppvs for charge us $60-$70?? Ain't it fukked up that USA can't see a nice ppvs event live?? Boxing fans always crying talking bout what about us what about what we want?? Then say its cool how Arum is dikking us down

 

[Newzz]

How??? Canelos BEST opponent is Austin Trout...






...Austin Dwayne Trout.



This is a fight that will greatly benefit Mayweathers bank accts. Outside of Pacquiao, its his biggest possible purse due to Canelos huge following. But the reality is resume wise it doesnt do much for him since everybody already knows Canelos a kid, has been largely hyped and groomed off a fighting plantain pickers in Mexico, and is taking a meteoric jump in competition in fighting Floyd. I can hear the critics now when Floyd unanimously outpoints Canelo via decision-and the critics will be right.

Who else was Floyd gonna fight? Saul Alvarez was the best opponent by farrrrrrr that the FANS wanted to see.


A young, strong, legit 154lber....undefeated....just about to enter his prime and will out weigh Mayweather about 20lbs on fight night, with decent hand speed, throws punches in bunches, and (as shown in Austin Trout) is not just a statue in the ring. He actually has some defensive skill as well. Not to mention he just beat the man, who beat the man at 154lbs.



Who was better for Floyd and a legitimate option for Al Haymon/GBP?




I Floyd for taking the fight




#BandCamp

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

OK but if anything doesn't that show Floyd wanted the fight?? got EVERYTHING he wanted from the A side yet doesn't want to take random tests that Floyd will also take

Tyson was a long ass time ago...that was the heavyweight division N boxing was a lot more mainstream....you think Arum would be in China without the Chinese dude he got?? Ain't it fukked up for TR to charge the Chinese $5 for ppvs for charge us $60-$70?? Ain't it fukked up that USA can't see a nice ppvs event live?? Boxing fans always crying talking bout what about us what about what we want?? Then say its cool how Arum is dikking us down

Im sorry bro, it doesnt show me that. And im speaking objectively. If we're negotiating to fight, and you introduce numerous uncalled for and unconventional demands, that tells me that youre NOT trying to make the fight. It also tells me youre trying to greatly stack the advantages in your favor. Fighting at 154 is one thing, asking a guy who NEVER failed a drug test in his entire career to submit to random blood testing OUTSIDE of what the commission normally does is another, but wanting to give Pacquiao NO PPV $? Its obvious Pacquiao wouldnt accept that, considering how well his PPVs do. To me, that told me Mayweather didnt want the fight cuz he gave Pac a demand he knew no one in their right or left mind would agree to.

Zou Shiming openned the door. Pacquiao is gonna bust it wide open. And depending on the overall success of the event (which btw I will be at ) trust me- more promoters and fighters will follow suit. Its a business bro. So once fighters and promoters see that MORE $ can be OUTSIDE the US, they gon go where the $ is at. Same reason Ward-Froch 2 will be in UK. And Arum moving the fight to Macau is gonna inconvenience Americans, but when not Asians. Just like when he had Pac fighting in US it inconvenienced everyone outside of the US who's a boxing fan and wants to see a live fight, but not the Americans. So either way someone loses and wins depending on where the fight is so that point is moot.

 

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[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Im sorry bro, it doesnt show me that. And im speaking objectively. If we're negotiating to fight, and you introduce numerous uncalled for and unconventional demands, that tells me that youre NOT trying to make the fight. It also tells me youre trying to greatly stack the advantages in your favor. Fighting at 154 is one thing, asking a guy who NEVER failed a drug test in his entire career to submit to random blood testing OUTSIDE of what the commission normally does is another, but wanting to give Pacquiao NO PPV $? Its obvious Pacquiao wouldnt accept that, considering how well his PPVs do. To me, that told me Mayweather didnt want the fight cuz he gave Pac a demand he knew no one in their right or left mind would agree to.

Zou Shiming openned the door. Pacquiao is gonna bust it wide open. And depending on the overall success of the event (which btw I will be at ) trust me- more promoters and fighters will follow suit. Its a business bro. So once fighters and promoters see that MORE $ can be OUTSIDE the US, they gon go where the $ is at. Same reason Ward-Froch 2 will be in UK. And Arum moving the fight to Macau is gonna inconvenience Americans, but when not Asians. Just like when he had Pac fighting in US it inconvenienced everyone outside of the US who's a boxing fan and wants to see a live fight, but not the Americans. So either way someone loses and wins depending on where the fight is so that point is moot.

So you gotta fail a drug test first in order for it to be OK to be asked to be tested

Please tell me how many drug tests Rios failed for to ask him for testing

The facts are ring size, glove size, weight, 50/50 split N An outrageous 10 Milly penalty for erry pound over 147 Floyd came in(even tho he never weighed over 147 for a welterweight fight)was all given to

Floyd asks for random testing that they both would take N team PAC throw a fit N the excuses pour in

But yea Floyd didn't want the fight

 

[Mr. Leonidas]

So you gotta fail a drug test first in order for it to be OK to be asked to be tested

Please tell me how many drug tests Rios failed for to ask him for testing

The facts are ring size, glove size, weight, 50/50 split N An outrageous 10 Milly penalty for erry pound over 147 Floyd came in(even tho he never weighed over 147 for a welterweight fight)was all given to

Floyd asks for random testing that they both would take N team PAC throw a fit N the excuses pour in

But yea Floyd didn't want the fight

this is getting tiresome now...cuz I forgot youre a Mayweather loyalist. So I suppose even if its correct, there are some things about him you wont agree with. But ill give this one last message before I leave work.


First off, fighters are already drug tested by the commission. What Mayweather was asking for was ADDITIONAL drug tests. And considering he was asking it for a fighter who never failed a drug test, it naturally raised eyebrows. Example: if you take a midterm and get 100 and then your prof says for you to take your next exam privately with additional proctors there, youre gonna ask why cuz you know you passed your previous exams and did not cheat. The same thing applies here. If i didnt do anything that would suggest that additional testing is needed, then why do i have to take additional testing becuz you tell me to? Of course Mayweathers reason was becuz he didnt think anyone could honestly KO so many ppl through so many divisions. I guess Pacquiao's greatness is unbelievable since its rare.


And nothing was GIVEN to Pacquiao. These are terms that both agree to. Outside of the overweight penalty, all the other terms were on par with what Mayweather normally had. He wasnt giving anything up. And yes, at first they were off by 14 days, and then 4 days, but in the FINAL ROUND OF NEGOTIATIONS PAC AGREED TO FULL RANDOM OST. It was THEN that Floyd renegged on his 50/50 split and offered Pac 40 mil flat. That move made his ducking too obvious bro.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

this is getting tiresome now...cuz I forgot youre a Mayweather loyalist. So I suppose even if its correct, there are some things about him you wont agree with. But ill give this one last message before I leave work.


First off, fighters are already drug tested by the commission. What Mayweather was asking for was ADDITIONAL drug tests. And considering he was asking it for a fighter who never failed a drug test, it naturally raised eyebrows. Example: if you take a midterm and get 100 and then your prof says for you to take your next exam privately with additional proctors there, youre gonna ask why cuz you know you passed your previous exams and did not cheat. The same thing applies here. If i didnt do anything that would suggest that additional testing is needed, then why do i have to take additional testing becuz you tell me to? Of course Mayweathers reason was becuz he didnt think anyone could honestly KO so many ppl through so many divisions. I guess Pacquiao's greatness is unbelievable since its rare.


And nothing was GIVEN to Pacquiao. These are terms that both agree to. Outside of the overweight penalty, all the other terms were on par with what Mayweather normally had. He wasnt giving anything up. And yes, at first they were off by 14 days, and then 4 days, but in the FINAL ROUND OF NEGOTIATIONS PAC AGREED TO FULL RANDOM OST. It was THEN that Floyd renegged on his 50/50 split and offered Pac 40 mil flat. That move made his ducking too obvious bro.

So why does need testing for Rios?? Let the commission do its job

 

[Black_Jesus]

this is getting tiresome now...cuz I forgot youre a Mayweather loyalist. So I suppose even if its correct, there are some things about him you wont agree with. But ill give this one last message before I leave work.


First off, fighters are already drug tested by the commission. What Mayweather was asking for was ADDITIONAL drug tests. And considering he was asking it for a fighter who never failed a drug test, it naturally raised eyebrows. Example: if you take a midterm and get 100 and then your prof says for you to take your next exam privately with additional proctors there, youre gonna ask why cuz you know you passed your previous exams and did not cheat. The same thing applies here. If i didnt do anything that would suggest that additional testing is needed, then why do i have to take additional testing becuz you tell me to? Of course Mayweathers reason was becuz he didnt think anyone could honestly KO so many ppl through so many divisions. I guess Pacquiao's greatness is unbelievable since its rare.


And nothing was GIVEN to Pacquiao. These are terms that both agree to. Outside of the overweight penalty, all the other terms were on par with what Mayweather normally had. He wasnt giving anything up. And yes, at first they were off by 14 days, and then 4 days, but in the FINAL ROUND OF NEGOTIATIONS PAC AGREED TO FULL RANDOM OST. It was THEN that Floyd renegged on his 50/50 split and offered Pac 40 mil flat. That move made his ducking too obvious bro.

pretty much

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

ggg wins via ko/tko inside 10 or points?

 

[surv2syn]

Im sorry bro, it doesnt show me that. And im speaking objectively. If we're negotiating to fight, and you introduce numerous uncalled for and unconventional demands, that tells me that youre NOT trying to make the fight. It also tells me youre trying to greatly stack the advantages in your favor.

I dont think you are looking at it from if you were in Floyd's shoes.

IF I SUSPECT SOMEONE OF CHEATING.....THEN YES, I WILL DO WHATEVER I CAN TO STACK ADVANTAGES.

Manny never failed a regular test...but we know how nikkas skirt them shyts now. Remember when growing up and you were playin ball or playing cards and shyt...I mean on a friendly but competitive level. Remember when it was shady cats always tryin to cheat or stack advantages so you had to call someone in just to keep an eye on shyt or to verify nikkas be on that slick shyt?

Nobody likes to be cheated. Now think about if you are the best fighter in the world...undefeated...making tons of money...and in good health....
man its dudes out here stripping padding out of gloves, loading handwraps, juicing, etc...

If theres a doubt, I dont give a damn how unconventional it is. I am willing to do the same thing.

I dont get why Floyd didnt want the fight. Would Pac KO him like he *was supposed to do* Bradley??? Or he was gonna somehow find a way to beat the man that beat a guy that he struggled with 4 times?

HBO and Sho got together for Lewis-Tyson. It was such a huge money fight, even though Mike was past his prime. That didnt stop the 2 networks for getting together. Even had Buffer and Lennon! The point is, when you have events of such magnitude...things are going to get unconventional. They have to be, because there is too much at stake.

Its going to hurt Manny's legacy much more than Floyd because people will always remember how he initially balked at testing that Floyd was more than happy to submit himself to.

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Floyd vs..

needs its own thread.

 

[surv2syn]

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everybody was in the crowd, Lux, Cal, T-Will....
funny shyt...I know somebody posted about this after the fight but I thought it was a joke, like some Lil Duval shyt or sum but now I see its real...this nikka really battled Mook! is Smack gonna post an official joint???

 

[surv2syn]

this is getting tiresome now...cuz I forgot youre a Mayweather loyalist. So I suppose even if its correct, there are some things about him you wont agree with. But ill give this one last message before I leave work.


First off, fighters are already drug tested by the commission. What Mayweather was asking for was ADDITIONAL drug tests. And considering he was asking it for a fighter who never failed a drug test, it naturally raised eyebrows.

Example: if you take a midterm and get 100 and then your prof says for you to take your next exam privately with additional proctors there, youre gonna ask why cuz you know you passed your previous exams and did not cheat. The same thing applies here. If i didnt do anything that would suggest that additional testing is needed, then why do i have to take additional testing becuz you tell me to? Of course Mayweathers reason was becuz he didnt think anyone could honestly KO so many ppl through so many divisions. I guess Pacquiao's greatness is unbelievable since its rare.

it raises more eyebrows when you dont want the additional testing.

First off, the prof is only going to do that if there is reason for suspicion. If I take a midterm and my prof makes me take it with additional proctors....I have no issue with that IF I ACTUALLY STUDIED AND LEGITIMATELY EARNED THE 100!

I only take issue with it when I know I cheated and didnt legitimately earn the test scores!

Furthermore, if I take the test with the additional proctors and make a 50...what does that tell the Prof?

you make excellent points but they can be countered equally..but at the end of the day...one fighter is still on top and the other is fading from glory. they both played there part but I would rather be called a ducker than to be labeled a cheater any day. He is innocent til proven guilty...but it always comes out...McGuire, Armstrong, etc...

 

[surv2syn]

So why does need testing for Rios?? Let the commission do its job

because its a double standard when it comes to Mayweather but its not when it comes to Manny.