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i wasn't aware paulie hurt broner with a jab or any other punch or out boxed him.broner threw less and landed more than paulie..not the same for herrera-swift
Thank god, me and @Newzz ain't the only ones who saw the fight like this.
I honestly don't know how nikkas can compare Broner/Malignaggi to Swift/Herrera. Those are two different types of fights. Herrera actually landed some decent shots CLEARLY and had good ring generalship while occasionally getting caught with some power shots from Danny. Paulie on the other hand threw a shyt load of punches which most missed or were blocked while getting rocked with power shots all night.
Broner looked more in control against Paulie than Danny did against Herrera. I don't know how anybody can argue against that. I think 115-113 either way or a draw for the Swift/Herrera fight is acceptable to me.
Yep.
I had Broner beating Paulie. Just thought Paulie was flailing away in there, but not once did he hit Broner with anything significant in 36 minutes worth of action. Broner landed the cleaner, harder punches and he outlanded Paulie even though he threw many less punches. Either Broner is a super accurate puncher or his defense was extremely on point (Paulie even said himself that it's extremely hard to hit Broner up top, so when you finally do connect it has to be a KO type of punch thrown.....ie Maidana).
Exactly what you wrote about Herrera is why I gave Herrera the victory over Swift. BUT, it doesnt matter in the end anymore, because Danny got the "offical" W and I dont really like to give people L's when they officially won on the scorecards. Like I said before, if that's the case, Floyd would be 44-2 today (with losses to JLC 1 and Zab Judah).
i need that Stiverne/Wilder fight, and i need Stiverne to take a couple punches & talk that shyt again to see how Wilder reacts.
Before Saturday's fight, I had Wilder losing to Stiverne/Arreola.
After, I have Wilder winning by KO. Stiverne likes to stand against the ropes and absorb punches, which plays into Wilder's strengths. Stiverne's stamina was REALLY telling in that fight....how you gassing only 3 rounds in?
ChocolateGiddyUp
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Got no problem with 115-113 either way or a draw...said that since the day of the fight
I do gotta problem with the robbery 9-3 10-2 score cards that alotta nikkas was trying to push here on fight night
One big difference between the AB/ Paulie fight N the Swift/Herrera fight was Herrera ate Swifts Power really well...while Paulie had is head looking like a pez Despenser whenever he got touched...that makes it easier to ignore Swifts work
THASTUNNA
All Star
I could see 115 - 113 or draw myself. Herrera gave Danny one hell of a fight. Busted that nose up and stole the 12 rd. All Danny can do is learn from it and get better.. #swiftset
InvictusAeternusEternus
In the cut
Before Saturday's fight, I had Wilder losing to Stiverne/Arreola.
After, I have Wilder winning by KO. Stiverne likes to stand against the ropes and absorb punches, which plays into Wilder's strengths. Stiverne's stamina was REALLY telling in that fight....how you gassing only 3 rounds in?
But, but, but, I was just waiting for him get comfortable.
Dude was getting hands put on him for like 4 rounds when he could have set up that same shot earlier. I mean if Arreola would have never hurt his left hand, and get a lil lazy with the jab, would Stiverne still try for that opening or just sit back and get out worked? I mean he get's props for the win, but I can tell he had a problem with Arreola outworking him and then backing up as if expecting the counter. I seen that shyt like
ole boy must have wised up. He eventually got hurt with the shot he was expecting all night. 
I wouldn't mind seeing Stiveren fight that Mansour (I think that's his name, the dude who fought USS) a lil while back., That should be a lil exciting ESPN shootout.
but yeah I'm leaning towards Wilder in a Stiverene fight now.
Herrera beat Provodnikov who had Bradley stumbling around the ring like a rag doll,
so obviously he can absorb some big power shots
That's one thing I try to keep in mind about fights. Herrera has never been KO'd or touched the canvas in a fight, so he's gotta great chin. I think people dont look at that when they talk about a fight after the fact. Danny has great power, but so does Prov. Neither one of em could put him down, so in hindsight, it explains why Herrera was able to take his shots so well
I think if they ever rematched and Danny fought him like he did the 2nd half of the fight after Angel woke him up in the corner, Danny wins clearly.
I DO think he was weight drained though. You could look at him coming to the ring and see he wasnt in good shape or didnt rehydrate well enough. That played a factor as well.
But, but, but, I was just waiting for him get comfortable.
Dude was getting hands put on him for like 4 rounds when he could have set up that same shot earlier. I mean if Arreola would have never hurt his left hand, and get a lil lazy with the jab, would Stiverne still try for that opening or just sit back and get out worked? I mean he get's props for the win, but I can tell he had a problem with Arreola outworking him and then backing up as if expecting the counter. I seen that shyt like
I wouldn't mind seeing Stiveren fight that Mansour (I think that's his name, the dude who fought USS) a lil while back., That should be a lil exciting ESPN shootout.
but yeah I'm leaning towards Wilder in a Stiverene fight now.
Yeah, he's not gonna be able to just rest on the ropes and let a 6'7 Heavyweight with 84" arms, great power, and good speed for a Heavyweight just tee off on him. That's a recipe for disaster
Wilder will be throwing punches from almost the center of the ring and tagging him
Stiverne's gonna need to increase that stamina fight on the inside if he's gonna beat Wilder. And like I said before, Stiverne aint beat nobody either but Arreola. We still dont know if HE'S legit or not
I know for a fact though that Stiverne doesnt beat Wladamir. Wladamir is all wrong for him. Only person that can beat Wladamir, clearly, is Vitali imo.
Wilder might be able to "catch" Wladamir being they are similar heights with similar power. Wilder has the 3 inch reach advantage and slight hand speed advantage, Wladamir has the boxing skill advantage, experience factor, and a better chin. Right now, I would have Wladamir as the heavy favorite, because he's just the better all-around fighter.
Anything Wilder can do, Wlad can do just as good or better
iceberg_is_on_fire
Wearing Lions gear when it wasn't cool
I'm liking that the WBC is forcing Stiverne to face his mandatory in Wilder.
#1: Don King can't get over for fukkery for hiding with the belt.
#2: Stiverne actually has a pulse. How do you fight 31 straight stiffs?
#3: Wlad will get a chance to murk either one of them.
#1: Don King can't get over for fukkery for hiding with the belt.
#2: Stiverne actually has a pulse. How do you fight 31 straight stiffs?
#3: Wlad will get a chance to murk either one of them.
Axum Ezana
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I see a lot of you guys like broner on here. I still like him too but I think his problems stem from him fighting flat footed and having holes in his philly shell defense. I would also like to see him with little bit more head movement. Broner also seems he has lost some of his power.
One thing I can say about him is that dude has heart. That's the one thing I came away impressed with after the fight with marcos.
Floyd on the other hand, I thought completely dominated marcos once you watch it slowed down. Floyd could have stood in the middle of the ring and tagged chino all night long. also marcos was very dirty during that fight...dude hit may in the back of the head about 50 times. but the ref didn't take no points away from him. I think Floyd should fight porter/Thurman etc next.. Maybe he could fight pac(last big score) at 49-0 if dude ever leaves arum. heard that Floyd will not do business with arum because he owes him millions.
Sad to see andre ward in a stupid hiatus with legal issues. him and Floyd would be a great fight if they were in the same weight division. also its too bad the ggg/Chavez fight might not happen.
like I said love wilder power but stiverne can take a punch, so its not an automatic win for him like some think. I mean at one point arreola hit him with a 8 punch power combo and dude took it.
also when I watched the press conference, don king was funny as fukk with that "im black and im proud" routine. nikka said "talk to em with ya heart and understanding". this nikka is a first class fool with his wild fire hair.
One thing I can say about him is that dude has heart. That's the one thing I came away impressed with after the fight with marcos.
Floyd on the other hand, I thought completely dominated marcos once you watch it slowed down. Floyd could have stood in the middle of the ring and tagged chino all night long. also marcos was very dirty during that fight...dude hit may in the back of the head about 50 times. but the ref didn't take no points away from him. I think Floyd should fight porter/Thurman etc next.. Maybe he could fight pac(last big score) at 49-0 if dude ever leaves arum. heard that Floyd will not do business with arum because he owes him millions.
Sad to see andre ward in a stupid hiatus with legal issues. him and Floyd would be a great fight if they were in the same weight division. also its too bad the ggg/Chavez fight might not happen.
like I said love wilder power but stiverne can take a punch, so its not an automatic win for him like some think. I mean at one point arreola hit him with a 8 punch power combo and dude took it.
also when I watched the press conference, don king was funny as fukk with that "im black and im proud" routine. nikka said "talk to em with ya heart and understanding". this nikka is a first class fool with his wild fire hair.
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same...its been a min since we had 2 nikkas fight for the heavyweight title...they need to build a good card around it