firemanBk
The Manslayer
Floyd will likely be retired by the time Ward finally gets around to actually fighting again
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krackdagawd
Inspire.
Floyd will likely be retired by the time Ward finally gets around to actually fighting again
We shooting up to #1 without even having to fight?
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
look nikka, I know that it will happen. BUT, that is contingent on a few things 1)Ward keeps winning and doesn't lose before Floyd loses and/or retires and 2)Someone doesn't bypass ward due to his long hiatus. If Floyd lost, who's to say Manny doesn't bypass Ward and take over the number 1 spot? Manny is number 3 now, correct? Bradley was 3 and lost in their rematch, so I'm guessing that catapulted him back to the number 3 spot. I'm not saying Manny deserves the spot or is better than Ward
, I'm saying that most writers/pundits would have him jump Ward.Look, here's the bottom line: I don't like you putting this shyt about him jumping to number 1 out there, because then it would mean my current favorite fighter would be done (
) So fukk Andre Ward (for the time being) and his number 2 status (for the time being).
krackdagawd
Inspire.
look nikka, I know that it will happen. BUT, that is contingent on a few things 1)Ward keeps winning and doesn't lose before Floyd loses and/or retires and 2)Someone doesn't bypass ward due to his long hiatus. If Floyd lost, who's to say Manny doesn't bypass Ward and take over the number 1 spot? Manny is number 3 now, correct? Bradley was 3 and lost in their rematch, so I'm guessing that catapulted him back to the number 3 spot. I'm not saying Manny deserves the spot or is better than Ward
Look, here's the bottom line: I don't like you putting this shyt about him jumping to number 1 out there, because then it would mean my current favorite fighter would be done (
#1 when Floud retires
Thatrogueassdiaz
We're on the blood path now
MAYBE#1 when Floud retires
Black_Jesus
Superstar
If Floyd lost, who's to say Manny doesn't bypass Ward and take over the number 1 spot? Manny is number 3 now, correct? Bradley was 3 and lost in their rematch, so I'm guessing that catapulted him back to the number 3 spot. I'm not saying Manny deserves the spot or is better than Ward
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Ward only fought 2 times in the last 3 years (Dawson in 2012 and Rodriguez in 2013) and is STILL at #2P4P......there's nothing Pacquiao or anyone can do to surpass #SOG
If Ward was gonna be "punished" on the P4P lists because of inactivity, it would've been happened. As of now, we're still sitting pretty at #2P4P and aint worried bout nuthin (*insert French Montana smiley*)
#2P4P, #SOG, #CrownUs, #SOGGang, #AintWorriedBoutNuthin
Kellerman: Andre Ward is still out there for Froch
By Bill Phanco | Published June 1, 2014 | 288 Comments
Max Kellerman of HBO offered up the idea that IBF/WBA super middleweight champion Carl Froch can always look in the direction of WBA super middleweight champion Andre Ward if he wants to get a good opponent in the near future. Ward still has a victory over Froch from 2011 that Froch has did nothing to try and avenge. Ward has open to a fight against Froch for the past three years, and he’s still willing to fight him if he’s feeling up to it. Froch has been feasting lately on the unproven George Groves, and he’s not fought a quality fighter for some time since he was beaten by Ward in the Super Six tournament.
“He’ll [Froch] always have a little bit more than his opponents unless that opponent is Andre Ward,” Kellerman said to HBO. “Of course, he’s [Ward] the best fighter in the world. Andre Ward is still out there. Andre Ward would do it again. Does Carl Froch even want that? Even if Andre Ward believes, maybe correctly, that Froch was promoted in such a way that he appeared to be a bigger star than he was during certain points during his career, however they got him there, and he’s now there. 80,000 was in a stadium – plus British TV money. The economic incentive is to go over there [the UK], and not just for Andre Ward, but for Gennady Golovkin, Chavez Jr, who is himself a cash cow. What’s the crowd going to do for him against an Andre Ward, who is technically so superior or against Gennady Golovkin, who Roy [Jones Jr] points out, is not only going to make you pay for those mistakes, but is going to hurt you for them. That remains to be seen. I think he [Froch] would be a substantial underdog no matter where they fought – England, the moon, anywhere – against Andre Ward or Gennady Golovkin.”
Getting Froch to agree to a second fight against Ward are probably not too good. Froch seems to be looking for softer targets at this point like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. If Froch beats him, then he’s got to face IBF mandatory challenger James DeGale. Froch’s promoter Eddie Hearn will likely put the Froch-DeGale fight at Wembley Stadium. I get the impression that Froch doesn’t fancy the idea of getting Ward in the ring again for a second fight. Froch was beaten soundly by Ward in 2011, and that was with Ward fighting him with one good hand because his left was fractured in training for the fight.
Froch defeated George Groves by an 8th round KO last Saturday night in what Froch said was the biggest accomplishment of his career. However, it’s kind of hard to see how Froch could get so excited about a victory over an unproven fighter whose best win was a highly contested win over James DeGale in 2011.
Read more at Kellerman: Andre Ward is still out there for Froch
By Bill Phanco | Published June 1, 2014 | 288 Comments
Max Kellerman of HBO offered up the idea that IBF/WBA super middleweight champion Carl Froch can always look in the direction of WBA super middleweight champion Andre Ward if he wants to get a good opponent in the near future. Ward still has a victory over Froch from 2011 that Froch has did nothing to try and avenge. Ward has open to a fight against Froch for the past three years, and he’s still willing to fight him if he’s feeling up to it. Froch has been feasting lately on the unproven George Groves, and he’s not fought a quality fighter for some time since he was beaten by Ward in the Super Six tournament.
“He’ll [Froch] always have a little bit more than his opponents unless that opponent is Andre Ward,” Kellerman said to HBO. “Of course, he’s [Ward] the best fighter in the world. Andre Ward is still out there. Andre Ward would do it again. Does Carl Froch even want that? Even if Andre Ward believes, maybe correctly, that Froch was promoted in such a way that he appeared to be a bigger star than he was during certain points during his career, however they got him there, and he’s now there. 80,000 was in a stadium – plus British TV money. The economic incentive is to go over there [the UK], and not just for Andre Ward, but for Gennady Golovkin, Chavez Jr, who is himself a cash cow. What’s the crowd going to do for him against an Andre Ward, who is technically so superior or against Gennady Golovkin, who Roy [Jones Jr] points out, is not only going to make you pay for those mistakes, but is going to hurt you for them. That remains to be seen. I think he [Froch] would be a substantial underdog no matter where they fought – England, the moon, anywhere – against Andre Ward or Gennady Golovkin.”
Getting Froch to agree to a second fight against Ward are probably not too good. Froch seems to be looking for softer targets at this point like Julio Cesar Chavez Jr. If Froch beats him, then he’s got to face IBF mandatory challenger James DeGale. Froch’s promoter Eddie Hearn will likely put the Froch-DeGale fight at Wembley Stadium. I get the impression that Froch doesn’t fancy the idea of getting Ward in the ring again for a second fight. Froch was beaten soundly by Ward in 2011, and that was with Ward fighting him with one good hand because his left was fractured in training for the fight.
Froch defeated George Groves by an 8th round KO last Saturday night in what Froch said was the biggest accomplishment of his career. However, it’s kind of hard to see how Froch could get so excited about a victory over an unproven fighter whose best win was a highly contested win over James DeGale in 2011.
Read more at Kellerman: Andre Ward is still out there for Froch
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Ward only fought 2 times in the last 3 years (Dawson in 2012 and Rodriguez in 2013) and is STILL at #2P4P......there's nothing Pacquiao or anyone can do to surpass #SOG
If Ward was gonna be "punished" on the P4P lists because of inactivity, it would've been happened. As of now, we're still sitting pretty at #2P4P and aint worried bout nuthin (*insert French Montana smiley*)
#2P4P, #SOG, #CrownUs, #SOGGang, #AintWorriedBoutNuthin
Pacquiao is one solid win away from being ahead of Ward.. I like Ward, but he has never even fought another p4p guy... Ward's inactivity is an issue.. The only reason he moved up is because Pac took a loss back in 2012.. Pac gets one more solid win, guess whats gonna happen
We'll see
Carl Froch is #10 P4P and Chad Dawson was ranked #10 P4P when he fought and lost to Andre Ward.
To whom? The Boxing fan or the Boxing community
In the Boxing Community...he's highly respected and is considered one of the best 3 fighters in the world (skill wise) and is STILL ranked #2P4P with only 2 bouts in 3 years
#SOGGang doesnt know anything about losing boxing matches
Pac gets one more solid win, guess whats gonna happen
#SOGGang........we aint worried bout nuthin
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HARLEM AL
Your broad loves me.....
If Pac wins another fight he is going ahead of Ward. As he should....
Black_Jesus
Superstar
We'll see
Carl Froch is #10 P4P and Chad Dawson was ranked #10 P4P when he fought and lost to Andre Ward.
To whom? The Boxing fan or the Boxing community
In the Boxing Community...he's highly respected and is considered one of the best 3 fighters in the world (skill wise) and is STILL ranked #2P4P with only 2 bouts in 3 years
#SOGGang doesnt know anything about losing boxing matches
#SOGGang........we aint worried bout nuthin
Carl Foch wasnt top 10 when Ward fought him... neither was Dawson
no slight... just my opinion...As far as inactivity goes... its a problem dude, lets not pretend like Floyd wasn't removed from lists completely for the same reason.If Pac beats anyone else on p4p list, not only should he move past Ward, but so should Sergio and Canelo if they win they're next fights
Carl Foch wasnt top 10 when Ward fought him... neither was Dawson
As far as inactivity goes... its a problem dude, lets not pretend like Floyd wasn't removed from lists completely for the same reason.If Pac beats anyone else on p4p list, not only should he move past Ward, but so should Sergio and Canelo if they win they're next fights
Chad Dawson was ranked #10 P4P at the time of their fight.
Inactivity is a problem to you....the boxing fan. Inside of the sport, obviously, Ward commands tons of respect from the media, commentators, journalists, and his boxing peers which allows him to remain at his #2 position regardless.
He's fought every year since 2009 and he will fight this year as well while he continues holding his spot until Floyd retires and he moves up to #1. Let's not forget he just fought as recent as November of 2013.
Black_Jesus
Superstar
Hes a place holder for the #2 spot breh.. the only reason he's at #2 is because pac, Canelo, Bradley all took Ls (to other p4p opponents) and Sergio, because he did poorly against Murray coming off that surgery. In other words, He moves up due to other nikkas failures, not due to hisown activity (or lack there of)
You right, Dawson was ranked for 4 mths (as a light heavyweight) before he drained down to 168 and loss