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[reservoirdogs]

Merchant: GGG the best fighter out there



if I go only by resumes then he is not the best in the world

if I go by literally imagine what would happen if all fighters would be in the same division, he is also not the best. There are multiple fighters who would beat him imo 5-10

 

[Newzz]

Broner Tried to Help Granados Deal With the Ed Brown Tragedy

By Keith Idec

The first time Ed Brown got shot, Adrian Granados was in training camp, helping Adrien Broner prepare for his welterweight title fight against Marcos Maidana.

Broner, a rising star at the time, and Granados were developing a friendship born out of respect established during spirited sparring sessions. When he wasn’t in camp, Granados and Brown were close friends who trained alongside one another at the same gym on the West Side of Chicago for many years.

A sympathetic Broner, also Brown’s friend, tried to console Granados. Cincinnati’s Broner knows all about the ills of street life and he gave Granados the best advice he could once he saw how much Brown’s troubles affected Granados.

“Ed Brown was a hell of a guy, a special type of talent,” Broner said during a conference call Thursday. “I knew him since the amateurs. He was actually a close friend to me. But at the end of the day, like I told Adrian in camp, it’s just some people – you can’t save everybody.”

Granados couldn’t save Ed Brown. No matter how much sound advice Granados gave him, trouble seemed to find the talented welterweight prospect on those perilous streets of Chicago.

Brown didn’t survive the eighth time he got shot December 5 in his hometown.

The 25-year-old Brown was shot in the head while he was sitting in a parked car with a 19-year-old female cousin in that same dangerous Chicago neighborhood Brown refused to leave. He died December 6 at Chicago’s Mount Sinai Hospital.

Brown’s death devastated Granados. One of the first people to check on him was Broner, Granados’ opponent February 18 in Cincinnati.

“It was a heartbreaking situation for Adrian,” Broner said. “But I was there. I was his shoulder to lean on. I was there, we got through it and I tried to make his days better.”

The former four-division champion took a similar approach late in 2013, when Broner came to realize Granados is “a stand-up guy,” someone Broner “loves to death.” Granados never forgot Broner’s kindness, a complete contrast to much of what is written and said about the polarizing Broner.

“The first time Ed was shot, I was in camp with him for the Maidana fight,” Granados recalled. “Ed was shot eight different times. And yeah, the first time it was while I was in camp with him. And yeah, he did look out. They all knew Ed was very close to me. They all knew Ed Brown, too. [Broner] looked out. It was cool of him. [Brown] was my guy. We were like the black and brown twins here in Chicago.”

Despite that they’re preparing to meet in a 12-round welterweight bout Showtime will televise from Xavier University’s Cintas Center, Granados genuinely appreciates Broner’s compassion and friendship.

“He was there for me, just like I was there for him when he was having his scare on the social media, [when] everybody was worried about him,” Granados said, referring to what was perceived to be Broner’s suicide scare in October. “I definitely reached out to his people and told them I was there for him. And I know he was there for me, too, during my tragic loss of my good friend, Ed Brown.

“At the end of the day, we’re both men. And we’re both humans. So when things like what have happened to both of us in the past few months happened, you kind of put the business and boxing out the window, and you worry about the person. So I appreciate him for that.”

Boxing Broner (32-2, 24 KOs) is the biggest opportunity of Granados’ eight-year pro career. If Granados (18-4-2, 12 KOs) pulls off an upset in their “Showtime Championship Boxing” main event, Granados’ life and career will change.

The 27-year-old junior welterweight contender feels an additional responsibility to succeed because he wants to honor Brown’s memory. This was supposed to be the year that Brown, who was 20-0 and had 16 knockouts, was to start making the transition from prospect to contender in the welterweight division.

A supportive Granados was looking forward to watching Brown’s ascent to stardom.

“Ed Brown, that was my best friend in boxing,” said Granados, who has dedicated his performance in the Broner bout to Brown. “That was my little brother in boxing. I know him the most out of anybody in the boxing world, just because we spent the past 12 years pretty much side by side here in Chicago. He was pretty much who I was running with in the juniors at the lower weights. And then once he got older, he was right under me at 132. And I was representing at 141.

“So, I mean, like I said, we were brothers in the ring and we spent countless days here at the gym. I used to pick him, I used to drop him off, I used to always tell him, you know, ‘Stay out of trouble.’ Like Adrien said, there’s some people you can’t save. But that doesn’t change that I lost a good friend and a good man. He was just a great kid. He was always smiling, always positive vibes from him, and it was a terrible loss for boxing.”

Brown became more dedicated to boxing when Cameron Dunkin agreed to co-manage him. Dunkin – who co-manages Terence Crawford and has worked with Timothy Bradley and Kelly Pavlik – arranged an astounding 17 fights for Brown from May 2015-November 2016.

Brown fought for the last time November 11, when he beat Ghana’s Albert Mensah (29-6-1, 13 KOs) by unanimous decision in an eight-rounder in Philadelphia. Dunkin begged Brown to leave Chicago, but Brown wanted to remain in the violence-ravaged neighborhood he knew and continued training at Golden Dome Fieldhouse in East Garfield Park.

The late Brown’s absence has created an obvious void at the gym, where Granados has prepared to battle Broner.

“It’s different here at the gym that we train at because he was the heart of the gym,” Granados said. “And I feel like I now have this huge burden because everybody who sees me now thinks of Ed. They’re like, ‘Oh man, Ed always spoke so highly about you.’ I feel like I have to be twice as great for both of us now.”

- See more at: Broner Tried to Help Granados Deal With the Ed Brown Tragedy - Boxing News




Ed Brown

 

[Newzz]

Ohio supports our fighters.







I still should go, but I don't wanna tap into my ATL-NO money



Oh well, good to see it's gonna be jumping tonight. Arena is like 1 1/2 hours from me




Great look for About Billions Promotions and, especially, Robert Easter Jr who's showing that he's a top draw in his hometown of Toledo just like AB is in Cincinnati, so more fights will be returning

 

[mr. smoke weed]

Mikey Garcia cant beat AB breh

That's fine you and I won't agree on that, and I'm not trying to change your mind. But my post was more About Easter and Mikey.

 

[Newzz]

That's fine you and I won't agree on that, and I'm not trying to change your mind. But my post was more About Easter and Mikey.

It was...but in that post, you made a prediction and you said:

Great post.

I would kill to see golden glove/am footage of some of the fights we hear about;Mikey v s T-Craw, Swift vs Everybody, Ward vs BATB, Anything young Floyd etc etc. you could see from this video Zab was pro material, he was doing shyt there that most pro's can't do without beating 15 pro jobbers.

And @Newzz the article you posted about Easter/Mikey, I agree with. Easters gonna get way bigger and if they fight at 140/147 (after Mikey beats up Big Bro), that would be more ideal. Let Easter grow into his dimensions, and let Mikey get more rounds, and maybe a test even though he bombs out most at 135 RN.

So, yeah, Easter can fight Mikey....but Mikey wont be undefeated if they do, because he's not beating AB (I had to address it)



I agree with the rest of your post though

 

[reservoirdogs]

It was...but in that post, you made a prediction and you said:





So, yeah, Easter can fight Mikey....but Mikey wont be undefeated if they do, because he's not beating AB (I had to address it)



I agree with the rest of your post though

Mikey would beat Broner.

More skilled, better defense, power proably similar or not too far away... Plus Broner doesn't fight on a way which would be particularly difficult to Mikey. Broner stands in the pocket, Mikey likes that.

Of course I'm talking about a scenario where Mikey really grows into welterweight which now seems to be Broner's weightclass

 

[Newzz]

 

[Newzz]

Mikey would beat Broner.

More skilled, better defense, power proably similar or not too far away... Plus Broner doesn't fight on a way which would be particularly difficult to Mikey. Broner stands in the pocket, Mikey likes that.

Of course I'm talking about a scenario where Mikey really grows into welterweight which now seems to be Broner's weightclass

So you doing all this projection of what Mikey Garcia would do at Welterweight, and you don't even know if his power translates to even JWW yet


A much larger/stronger/powerful Maidana in MX Gloves couldn't stop Broner, a much larger/stronger Porter couldn't even put down Broner, but Mikey's power would do the job huh?


Mikey Garcia is more skilled because of you going strictly what he's done to 130 and under competition (and the smallest 135 Champion)........but we're just gonna forget Broner dominated 130 & 135 already as well, and is bigger than Garcia huh?

 

[reservoirdogs]

@Newzz

How do you expect Broner will do in welter?
You said multiple times that so far only true welters beaten him and he can be easily an elite 140 pounder.
Do you think, (as objectively as you can speak on him) he has a shot with guys like Spence, Pac or Thurman or rather no?

Danny Garcia made the transition recently and he didn't look bad but he didn't look that powerful either.
Do you think Broner's second run in ww will be better and longer than the first was (Paulie, Maidana)?

 

[reservoirdogs]

So you doing all this projection of what Mikey Garcia would do at Welterweight, and you don't even know if his power translates to even JWW yet


A much larger/stronger/powerful Maidana in MX Gloves couldn't stop Broner, a much larger/stronger Porter couldn't even put down Broner, but Mikey's power would do the job huh?


Mikey Garcia is more skilled because of you going strictly what he's done to 130 and under competition (and the smallest 135 Champion)........but we're just gonna forget Broner dominated 130 & 135 already as well, and is bigger than Garcia huh?

Don't be mad at me man, I just think Mikey is more skilled, by the "eye test". I didn't say it's proven and shyt like that I just stated my opinion... I'd pick Mikey

 

[Knicksman20]

Was this posted already?

Rick Ross trying to box

 

[Newzz]

@Newzz

How do you expect Broner will do in welter?

Depends on how he goes about it.


If he runs straight to the top of the division, as he's done in all 3 of his WW fights, then he will take more losses. If he gradually fights his way up the ladder, facing lesser opposition at first, then he should be able to adjust to the size/power/strength of a WW and then be more of a threat at 147.

You said multiple times that so far only true welters beaten him and he can be easily an elite 140 pounder.

This is true.

Do you think, (as objectively as you can speak on him) he has a shot with guys like Spence, Pac or Thurman or rather no?

I think he gives Pacquiao all he can handle. Pacquiao is smaller than AB, I don't believe any guy the same size or smaller than AB can beat him


He loses to Spence and Thurman right now if he jumped up to 147, because they are just as strong as Maidana (punching wise), but faster and more athletic. I would avoid them until he had about 3 fights at WW against lesser opps under his belt first.

Danny Garcia made the transition recently and he didn't look bad but he didn't look that powerful either.

Danny Garcia hasn't fought anyone at WW that AB couldn't beat though (no disrespect @ChocolateGiddyUp, but you know I've said this).


He beat Paulie Malignaggi (who AB already beat years prior) and Robert Guerrero and Samuel Vargas. Not exactly the toughest comp, BUT, Choc was right....it basically gave Danny the confidence and allowed him to build himself into a WW body, while getting used to WW power (even though Paulie & Ghost arent natural WW's either, they were bigger than they would be at 140).

Do you think Broner's second run in ww will be better and longer than the first was (Paulie, Maidana)?

And Porter makes 3.



Yes, it would because he would be matched better.

 

[Newzz]

Don't be mad at me man, I just think Mikey is more skilled, by the "eye test". I didn't say it's proven and shyt like that I just stated my opinion... I'd pick Mikey

Im not mad


Im just saying, using Mikey's skill as evidence, but dismissing the fact that Broner also outskilled the same weight classes, is typically what people do. Im always asked to be unbiased about AB, but I ask the same in return. Fighting at 135 and below got Broner up as high as #6 P4P....so


Mikey's skill is amazing at 135 and below....so was Broner's. Fight wouldn't be at that weight though and we know Broner's power carries, we don't know if Mikey's does yet.

 

[Newzz]

“It was disgusting, man,” Wilder said of how he felt when he learned Wawrzyk (33-1, 19 KOs) also failed a PED test. “It was disgusting. It was mind-boggling to just really try to understand.”

The 31-year-old Wilder views this PED epidemic as particularly perplexing because boxers continue to fail PED tests even when they know they must be tested to fight for WBC championships as part of the Mexico City-based sanctioning organization’s PED testing program, a partnership with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

“When guys try to fight me, it seems like they’re looking for some type of advantage for them to be able to come and fight me,” Wilder said. “But before [the fights are made], I wasn’t nobody. I’m easy. It’s easy to beat me. They can take away certain things that I have. But when it’s time for, ‘All right, you fighting me,’ then now it’s, ‘Aw, damn. What I done got myself into? I need a shield and a sword, and some armor as well.’ So they go shoot themselves up, or get somebody else to shoot them up and try to have an [advantage] against me.

“But it’s sad, though. It’s sad, especially in the heavyweight division, because the division is based off of power. This is where the big boys is. And if you get hit by one of those over-200-pound guys, it’s not nothing funny, or fun, either, especially with 10-ounce gloves on. So my thing is, why would you wanna go put something in your body that can be harmful to your body, maybe not now, but over the period of time it develops? Especially if you continue to do so, why would you wanna do that, put something harmful in your body, and then come in the ring and try to fight somebody, when you can really kill ‘em?”


- See more at: Wilder: Disgusting, Sad Guys Keep Trying to Cheat Against Me! - Boxing News



Bronze Bomber got that VADA shield of protection to bust these cheaters


#VADAorNADA

 

[DerrtySouthpaw]

“It was disgusting, man,” Wilder said of how he felt when he learned Wawrzyk (33-1, 19 KOs) also failed a PED test. “It was disgusting. It was mind-boggling to just really try to understand.”

The 31-year-old Wilder views this PED epidemic as particularly perplexing because boxers continue to fail PED tests even when they know they must be tested to fight for WBC championships as part of the Mexico City-based sanctioning organization’s PED testing program, a partnership with the Voluntary Anti-Doping Association (VADA).

“When guys try to fight me, it seems like they’re looking for some type of advantage for them to be able to come and fight me,” Wilder said. “But before [the fights are made], I wasn’t nobody. I’m easy. It’s easy to beat me. They can take away certain things that I have. But when it’s time for, ‘All right, you fighting me,’ then now it’s, ‘Aw, damn. What I done got myself into? I need a shield and a sword, and some armor as well.’ So they go shoot themselves up, or get somebody else to shoot them up and try to have an [advantage] against me.

“But it’s sad, though. It’s sad, especially in the heavyweight division, because the division is based off of power. This is where the big boys is. And if you get hit by one of those over-200-pound guys, it’s not nothing funny, or fun, either, especially with 10-ounce gloves on. So my thing is, why would you wanna go put something in your body that can be harmful to your body, maybe not now, but over the period of time it develops? Especially if you continue to do so, why would you wanna do that, put something harmful in your body, and then come in the ring and try to fight somebody, when you can really kill ‘em?”


- See more at: Wilder: Disgusting, Sad Guys Keep Trying to Cheat Against Me! - Boxing News



Bronze Bomber got that VADA shield of protection to bust these cheaters


#VADAorNADA

the nikka is a monstar . towering/wailing on nikkas with no block hand