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[Newzz]

Yeah he has some serious power. That shot he put burns down with in the opening rounds was quick. I think he will bring the best out of Mikey. Mikey has TNT for hands man. Some of his shots that get ppl on gazelle legs he doesn't even look like he is trying. shyt ain't normal

Im hoping Mikey wins. I need to see him vs AB at 140 on a future Cinco De Mayo or Mexican Independence Day date

 

[The axe murderer]

Im hoping Mikey wins. I need to see him vs AB at 140 on a future Cinco De Mayo or Mexican Independence Day date

You think he gonna see Loma?

 

[Black_Jesus]

You cant be the best Welterweight when Floyd Mayweather literally beat Juan Manuel Marquez, easily, 2 months before Pacquiao even faced Cotto. How do you beat someone ranked UNDER Floyd...but be considered the best?

what a stupid ass statement LMAO
"You cant be the best Welterweight by beating JMM before Pac beat Cotto"


JMM was a literally a lightweight when Floyd chose to face him by bringing him up from 135 to face... JMM had no welterweight belts and had nothing to do with the welterweight division at the time..


When Pac beat Cotto, Floyd wasnt even ranked anywhere at welterweight under RING and was beltless.. since he left the sport for 2 years...

You mind showing me where was Cotto ever ranked RING Champion, RING #1 Welterweight, or RING #2 Welterweight at the time Pacquiao fought him?




No?


Then stop it


Manny, Mosely, and Floyd were the top 3 Welterweights. Cotto wasn't.

Your precious RING rankings says you're wrong buddy...

Here is where Cotto was ranked at the time Manny came up to ww to fight him


The Ring Welterweight Ratings

#1 Shane
#2 Cotto( at you claiming Cotto not being top 3)
#3 Clottey
#4 Margarito

at the former flyweight washing all 4 of these nikkas too

Again, I dont recall Bradley being considered the best Welterweight after Floyd retired.


You chose to post "Don't call me breh"'s ranking list...but yet, I don't recall you ever using TBRB rankings previously. Why is this choice now?



Especially since you called TBRB "fraudulent" just a little over a month ago to me directly






Be honest with me breh.....is it because Pacquiao is ranked #4 by RING







"When has Pacquiao proved he was the best fighter at Welterweight?"


That's the question. Your answer is 8 years ago


Problem with that is, 40 Cal proved that he was the best in his division in 2007, moved up for a year in 2008, and then retired a year later in 2009.

Whether you or I believe TBRB to fraudulent is irrelevant.. The fact remains is that when Floyd retired TBRB(the ones who award Lineal status) believed Bradley and Pacquiao to be the top welterweights in the division when they fought.. I guess now we gonna pretend like 90% of the nikkas in here didn't rank Floyd/Manny/Bradley the top 3 in the welterweight division is that what we gon do??? Revise history??

 

[Newzz]

You think he gonna see Loma?

Garcia? Nah. Him and TR left on bad terms. I doubt Arum will ever make that fight unless Loma runs out of options.

 

[The axe murderer]

Garcia? Nah. Him and TR left on bad terms. I doubt Arum will ever make that fight unless Loma runs out of options.

I still think he can carry power up to 140 I got questions for Mikey at 135 like how his chin will hold up at that weight.

 

[Newzz]

what a stupid ass statement LMAO
"You cant be the best Welterweight by beating JMM before Pac beat Cotto"


JMM was a literally a lightweight when Floyd chose to face him by bringing him up from 135 to face... JMM had no welterweight belts and had nothing to do with the welterweight division at the time..

Floyd was already The Man before he left, came back and picked up where he left off.

When Pac beat Cotto, Floyd wasnt even ranked anywhere at welterweight under RING and was beltless.. since he left the sport for 2 years...

Really...because as of October 2009, the RING rankings had him listed as #2 under Mosley as the 2nd best WW



The Ring Welterweight Ratings

October 2009 RING Rankings:

1. Shane Mosley
2. Floyd Mayweather

Pacquiao didn't face Cotto until November 2009, so obviously, like I said....Mosley & Floyd were both ranked ahead of him

Your precious RING rankings says you're wrong buddy...

Here is where Cotto was ranked at the time Manny came up to ww to fight him


The Ring Welterweight Ratings

#1 Shane
#2 Cotto( at you claiming Cotto not being top 3)
#3 Clottey
#4 Margarito

at the former flyweight washing all 4 of these nikkas too

Again...when Pacquiao FACED Cotto, Cotto was not considered to be the best WW. Both Shane Mosley and Floyd Mayweather were above him like I said


Cotto was not RING Champ, RING #1, or RING #2 when Pacquiao faced him....so how does beating him make him the best Welterweight, when Floyd was already ranked ahead of Cotto and so was Mosley


The Ring Welterweight Ratings

October 2009 RING Rankings:

1. Shane Mosley
2. Floyd Mayweather
3. Miguel Cotto

Beating the 3rd best fighter in a division doesn't make you the best in the divison.

Whether you or I believe TBRB to fraudulent is irrelevant..

You gonna hold that L @Black_Juelz



You don't get to DISMISS TBRB rankings just a little over a month ago...........only to run back to try and use them when you losing a debate & the one's you chose to ride with list the Toradol Terminator as only the 4th best WW today



You said TBRB are fraudulent right and that "the fighters have chosen RING as the true champion" right??

Obviously the fighters themselves have chosen RING as the true chanpion since they chose to rock the RING strap and the ones that do are considered the best or have beat the top ranked best in the division.. fukk how fraudulent ass Boxrec or TBRB feels about it..

So don't tell me about TBRB awarding "fraudulent" titles



Choc JUST made a post about this interaction me and you are having....yesterday:

It was like when you got one of the brehs here in trouble but the debate in too deep N the don't wanna give up but errybody knows they need to throw in the towel

Throw in that towel @Black_Juelz

 

[Newzz]

I still think he can carry power up to 140 I got questions for Mikey at 135 like how his chin will hold up at that weight.

I wanna see Garcia vs Farmer, Easter, Verdejo, Loma, Crawford, or AB. Any of those are entertaining scraps imo

 

[Axum Ezana]

man if craw gotta move up to 147 to face pac...who do yall feel will be good fights to get him ready for pac? or should he face pac in his first fight at 147?

should he fight : Jessie Vargas,Shawn Porter,Errol Spence,Amir Khan Devon Alexander,Sadam Ali or Andre Berto?????

 

[Axum Ezana]

 

[The axe murderer]

I wanna see Garcia vs Farmer, Easter, Verdejo, Loma, Crawford, or AB. Any of those are entertaining scraps imo

I would've said Jorge Linares too but seeing that sergio thompson KO had me

 

[Axum Ezana]

heard craw want 7 mill for pac fight. that's more than broner and he not a bigger draw than broner.

hope this is false or hes lookin like a real idiot. cant support this at all.

 

[Newzz]

man if craw gotta move up to 147 to face pac...who do yall feel will be good fights to get him ready for pac? or should he face pac in his first fight at 147?

should he fight : Jessie Vargas,Shawn Porter,Errol Spence,Amir Khan Devon Alexander,Sadam Ali or Andre Berto?????

There's no one at WW that will be able to prepare him for Pacquiao imo.


He's just gonna have to go up to 147 and face him


It's hard to imitate Pacquiao's offensive rhythm, footwork, in-out/herky-jerky movements, with fast hands & power in both hands....coming out of a leftie stance. Closest is Loma yall say, but unless Crawford is gonna go back down to 135, he's just gonna have to take a chance

 

[Newzz]

heard craw want 7 mill for pac fight. that's more than broner and he not a bigger draw than broner.

hope this is false or hes lookin like a real idiot. cant support this at all.

You have a link?

 

[Axum Ezana]

You have a link?

naw a thread on boxingscene. they talkin bout box24news reported but I cant go to the link. I don't trust that dumb ass site though. so ill wait.

 

[The axe murderer]

man if craw gotta move up to 147 to face pac...who do yall feel will be good fights to get him ready for pac? or should he face pac in his first fight at 147?

should he fight : Jessie Vargas,Shawn Porter,Errol Spence,Amir Khan Devon Alexander,Sadam Ali or Andre Berto?????

Its damn near impossible to prepare for pacquiao. I was gonna say Khan because of his foot/hand speed but pacman is,on another level. The way he is able to warp in and out of angles is nuts.