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[reservoirdogs]

Richard Commey is better than everyone Verdejo has ever even stepped in the ring against...................as is Argenis Mendez also



Robert Easter Jr hasn't EVER struggled with the low caliber of guys that Verdejo has been struggling with



You keep bringing up the Commey fight, what was your scorecard anyways?



You are aware that Commey was given a 10-8 round for a KD that never occurred....in a round Commey was losing right?



Stop it:forreal:

I had Commey winning by one point or so but thought the fight could go either way

...as many other people did if you look back the comments on the fight

And why would I be mad because of Verdejo?
I don't have anything against him but he never belonged among my top favorites or anything like that
I also don't dislike or hate Easter I just think you overrate him sometimes... He has potential especially if he learns to use his reach advantage better but let him grow before you shout him out as some example for Verdejo...

 

[Newzz]

I had Commey winning by one point or so but thought the fight could go either way

...as many other people did if you look back the comments on the fight

What was your card?


I want to know what rounds you gave Commey


You have time, you up...you over in Hungary, and I'll provide you the link



Easter vs Commey full fight: September 9, 2016



Submit your rounds....please and thank you

And why would I be mad because of Verdejo?
I don't have anything against him but he never belonged among my top favorites or anything like that

You mad, because you talking and not making any sense....

I also don't dislike or hate Easter I just think you overrate him sometimes... He has potential especially if he learns to use his reach advantage better but let him grow before you shout him out as some example for Verdejo...

.....case in point This is exactly what I mean by you talking and not making any sense



I overrate Easter...by saying he's a force at 135



"Let him grown before you shout him out as some example for Verdejo"??????



Robert Easter Jr is a CHAMPION in 5 less fights than Verdejo has, AND has beaten better opposition than Verdejo has. what are you even talking about?



How can Easter, who has 5 less fights, who already faced and beat better opponents, who already won a Championship, NOT be an example for Verdejo, when Verdejo's OWN TRAINER is saying he's not ready to step up in competition from D+ opponents yet.........and he's 23 fights into his career already



That's how I know you're either mad or know nothing about Verdejo/Easter at all, and you're just posting to post



:forreal: today aint the day to lazy post to me........I aint had my coffee yet

 

[reservoirdogs]

What was your card?


I want to know what rounds you gave Commey


You have time, you up...you over in Hungary, and I'll provide you the link



Easter vs Commey full fight: September 9, 2016



Submit your rounds....please and thank you




You mad, because you talking and not making any sense....


.....case in point This is exactly what I mean by you talking and not making any sense



I overrate Easter...by saying he's a force at 135

I'm at work now I won't watch it right now I can post here but I can't watch the whole fight now

I'll watch later but before that you can check teh fight thread I believe I scored it live

and again why would I be mad because of Easter or Verdejo? As I said I'm not emotionally attached to either one of them.
Tell me if the Commey fight could go either way but I gave it to Commey plus I include Verdejo's accident as a factor in his lackluster showing how am I not making sense with saying Easter isn't necassarily an example to set for Verdejo yet? Verdejo is probably also 1-2 fights aways from a title fight against Flanagan. His coach also didn't say that Verdejo is shyt and a failed prospect but that he didn't expect that his accident and lay off will take its toll this much.

You mentioned Easter as if it would be already done and decided which one of them is better. I don't think that that's the case. Simple as that. Even if it will be proven a year or 2 from now that Easter really is cleraly the better fighter.

 

[Newzz]

I'm at work now I won't watch it right now I can post here but I can't watch the whole fight now

I'll watch later but before that you can check teh fight thread I believe I scored it live

and again why would I be mad because of Easter or Verdejo? As I said I'm not emotionally attached to either one of them.

BC what you're saying doesn't make sense.

1. Easter has had 5 less fights.
2. Easter has faced tougher opposition
3. Easter has defeated tougher opposition
4. Easter is a Champion

What do you mean "let him grow before you shout him out over Verdejo" as if they're on equal terms right now? Easter has ALREADY surpassed him

Tell me if the Commey fight could go either way but I gave it to Commey

I'll wait for you to post 7 rounds that Commey won

plus I include Verdejo's accident as a factor in his lackluster showing

Verdejo has had multiple lackluster showings against D level opposition.

how am I not making sense with saying Easter isn't necassarily an example to set for Verdejo yet?

Again:

1. Easter has had 5 less fights.
2. Easter has faced tougher opposition
3. Easter has defeated tougher opposition
4. Easter is a Champion

What do you mean "let him grow before you shout him out over Verdejo" as if they're on equal terms right now?

Verdejo is probably also 1-2 fights aways from a title fight against Flanagan.

His Trainer doesn't believe you......you need more people

His coach also didn't say that Verdejo is shyt and a failed prospect but that he didn't expect that his accident and lay off will take its toll this much.

Neither did I



I said:
Yall still think Verdejo is better than Easter?

You mentioned Easter as if it would be already done and decided which one of them is better. I don't think that that's the case. Simple as that. Even if it will be proven a year or 2 from now that Easter really is cleraly the better fighter.

Robert Easter Jr is ahead of Felix Verdejo even though he's had 5 fewer fights in his career. Simple as that.


For the last time:


Who's fought better opposition? Easter
Who's beaten better opposition? Easter
Who's a Champion? Easter

 

[Axum Ezana]

the only prospect that disappointed me was amir aman.......I thought breh would do better but I always knew his defense was leaking. maybe that philly shell fooled me a bit, he still can bounce back and I wouldnt mind Crawford giving him a shot if he gets by the eliminator to become his mando.

valdez- I underrated him. smokeweed called it though. he didn't look good when he got knocked down in one of his fights...I think that's why I was down on him but knew he had potential.
spence-think he is ready to be a good champ at 147....needs chin/heart/stamina tested.
antoine douglas - ran into rough vet khurtsidze at the last min.....u cant schedule tough opponents at last min like that for young prospects but he has heart. might need new trainer too....like amir aman. plus douglas isn't a top prospect with buzz anyways....lol
verdajo- knew he wasn't ready yet...but thought he could be a big star.

 

[Newzz]

the only prospect that disappointed me was amir aman.......I thought breh would do better but I always knew his defense was leaking. maybe that philly shell fooled me a bit, he still can bounce back and I wouldnt mind Crawford giving him a shot if he gets by the eliminator to become his mando.

valdez- I underrated him. smokeweed called it though. he didn't look good when he got knocked down in one of his fights...I think that's why I was down on him but knew he had potential.
spence-think he is ready to be a good champ at 147....needs chin/heart/stamina tested.
antoine douglas - ran into rough vet khurtsidze at the last min.....u cant schedule tough opponents at last min like that for young prospects but he has heart. might need new trainer too....like amir aman. plus douglas isn't a top prospect with buzz anyways....lol
verdajo- knew he wasn't ready yet...but thought he could be a big star.

I never got to be disappointed by Amir Imam, because I didn't even know about him before people were in here saying that Danny Garcia and Adrien Broner both lose to Amir Imam



Needless to say, that started us off on the wrong foot.....then sparring footage popped up showing Erickson Lubin, at 17 years old, dominating Amir Imam (who was like 22 and an undefeated professional at the time) in sparring.......and needless to say, that added more to my fire.......then Granados got up off the canvas to stop him which forced me to toss him in the bushes without ever watching a full Amir Imam fight to this day



I don't know how good Imam is, but he "looks" the part I hear. Problem with that for me, they turned down a rematch vs Granados, Team Granados says, so I still don't know what to think about Imam


He's highly ranked by WBC though, so in due time he gets a Crawford shot. I just hope the "Young Master" has leveled up in time, because Crawford is at peak abilities right now in his prime (physical/mental) at a weight he makes easy and can rehydrate properly at 140 where he's just big enough to be imposing, but nowhere being sluggish or losing stamina.




I agree with everything else on your list 100%.

 

[The axe murderer]

the only prospect that disappointed me was amir aman.......I thought breh would do better but I always knew his defense was leaking. maybe that philly shell fooled me a bit, he still can bounce back and I wouldnt mind Crawford giving him a shot if he gets by the eliminator to become his mando.

valdez- I underrated him. smokeweed called it though. he didn't look good when he got knocked down in one of his fights...I think that's why I was down on him but knew he had potential.
spence-think he is ready to be a good champ at 147....needs chin/heart/stamina tested.
antoine douglas - ran into rough vet khurtsidze at the last min.....u cant schedule tough opponents at last min like that for young prospects but he has heart. might need new trainer too....like amir aman. plus douglas isn't a top prospect with buzz anyways....lol
verdajo- knew he wasn't ready yet...but thought he could be a big star.

yeah for me it was sadam ali not because he lost to vargas who is better than people think but how he lost to vargas who isn't exactly a big puncher

 

[Axum Ezana]

oh and I always liked Robert easter size. @Newzz can vouch that I always used to ask about him. I was on verge of putting him on the team anyways.

shyt 5'11 with lhw reach was insane when I saw that....plus he had nice kos....lol

he just needs to use him height/reach more. easier said than done......I wish steward was here to train him...u would really see something...............wouldacouldashoulda#

 

[Newzz]

oh and I always liked Robert easter size. @Newzz can vouch that I always used to ask about him. I was on verge of putting him on the team anyways.

shyt 5'11 with lhw reach was insane when I saw that....plus he had nice kos....lol

he just needs to use him height/reach more. easier said than said......I wish steward was here to train him...u would really see something...............wouldacouldashoulda#

He needs to stop letting his inner-aggression take over and kill these boys from the outside like his Dad and Mike Stafford tells him



Only so long his strong chin can absorb flush hits and it doesn't bother him.



Hit a brick wall with a sledge hammer long enough, and eventually, its gonna crack

 

[Axum Ezana]

I never got to be disappointed by Amir Imam, because I didn't even know about him before people were in here saying that Danny Garcia and Adrien Broner both lose to Amir Imam



Needless to say, that started us off on the wrong foot.....then sparring footage popped up showing Erickson Lubin, at 17 years old, dominating Amir Imam (who was like 22 and an undefeated professional at the time) in sparring.......and needless to say, that added more to my fire.......then Granados got up off the canvas to stop him which forced me to toss him in the bushes without ever watching a full Amir Imam fight to this day



I don't know how good Imam is, but he "looks" the part I hear. Problem with that for me, they turned down a rematch vs Granados, Team Granados says, so I still don't know what to think about Imam


He's highly ranked by WBC though, so in due time he gets a Crawford shot. I just hope the "Young Master" has leveled up in time, because Crawford is at peak abilities right now in his prime (physical/mental) at a weight he makes easy and can rehydrate properly at 140 where he's just big enough to be imposing, but nowhere being sluggish or losing stamina.




I agree with everything else on your list 100%.

oh yeah forgot lubin to... hammerhead is nice but I don't wanna run him into charlo yet. I like him a lot man......he just gotta stop tryna force them kos. if the ko comes good...if not , just get the win and box good.

wanna see him vs jarret hurd, justin delouch, jrock, Vanes Martirosyan or tony Harrison.

 

[Axum Ezana]

yeah for me it was sadam ali not because he lost to vargas who is better than people think but how he lost to vargas who isn't exactly a big puncher

yeah I wasn't high on ali at all. he didn't have big buzz. when is his next fight? seems like when these prospects lose the promoter is like "fukk u breh.....ur fired"....

 

[The axe murderer]

yeah I wasn't high on ali at all. he didn't have big buzz. when is his next fight? seems like when these prospects lose the promoter is like "fukk u breh.....ur fired"....

LOL that is true. Especially when the prospects are fast tracked which I hope they don't do with Verdejo. Last I saw Sadam ali he fought on the bechelt vargas undercard. He looked decent that time out

 

[Newzz]

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[patscorpio]

Anyone know the status of Rigondeaux vs Flores now that Cotto vs Kirkland is off?

the whole card is off..they will prolly reschedule for something else..maybe another hbo ppv..although i cant see it being on standalone card

 

[patscorpio]

there was a reason why verdejo was last on my prospect list i ranked in order..he was a question mark when i ranked him last and still one now...he doesnt have much of an upside..he gives me seth mitchell vibes