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I dnt think Broner as is today could deal wit Bradleys movement, and even tho Bradley isnt the hardest puncher he still has more pop then a Rees or Demarco

I favor Broner. I am not saying Broner is some god or P4P king or something, but Bradley has had good management too that moved him up the later much faster than some of his contemporaries like Alexander. (Thats why Cunningham was pissed with Don King.)

You guys act like Bradley had beat better opposition before he won his title. None of these guys are fighting anyone early in their careers. Bradley had fought absolutely nobody before he got the title from Whitter over a year before Alexander became champ. Alexander didnt fight anybody either but after he beat Whitter he destroyed Urango. Bradley's career has been moved along quite well too. Bradley is average in about every category except conditioning and heart. He is a hunter and leaves himself wide open with no head movement sometimes. Broner is a guy who can exploit that. If **** wouldve just moved his hands, he'd won that fight.

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I favor Broner. I am not saying Broner is some god or P4P king or something, but Bradley has had good management too that moved him up the later much faster than some of his contemporaries like Alexander. (Thats why Cunningham was pissed with Don King.)

You guys act like Bradley had beat better opposition before he won his title. None of these guys are fighting anyone early in their careers. Bradley had fought absolutely nobody before he got the title from Whitter over a year before Alexander became champ. Alexander didnt fight anybody either but after he beat Whitter he destroyed Urango. Bradley's career has been moved along quite well too. Bradley is average in about every category except conditioning and heart. He is a hunter and leaves himself wide open with no head movement sometimes. Broner is a guy who can exploit that. If **** wouldve just moved his hands, he'd won that fight.

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name ONE notable fighter that Bradley fought or ONE fighter he fought that was better than Ponce De Leon, Demarco, or Vincente BEFORE he won his 1st title. I'm waiting.....
all these guys do the same thing, but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth by bashing Broner for doing it and not Bradley. At the same age, Broner has faced better opposition and get ready to add Paulie to that list. Bradley fought ZERO opposition before facing Whitter. Alexander wasnt much better but hell, Corley and Callist were better than anyone that Bradley had faced. So if thats your logic, its not hard to see who the dikkrider is here.
 

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name ONE notable fighter that Bradley fought or ONE fighter he fought that was better than Ponce De Leon, Demarco, or Vincente BEFORE he won his 1st title. I'm waiting.....
all these guys do the same thing, but you are talking out of both sides of your mouth by bashing Broner for doing it and not Bradley. At the same age, Broner has faced better opposition and get ready to add Paulie to that list. Bradley fought ZERO opposition before facing Whitter. Alexander wasnt much better but hell, Corley and Callist were better than anyone that Bradley had faced. So if thats your logic, its not hard to see who the dikkrider is here.
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nikkas got excuses for days, why aint Broner fight a name yet, he's p4p, even Bradley cleaned his division of the B class fighters, even that Broner has yet to do........All smoke and mirrors
 

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nikkas got excuses for days, why aint Broner fight a name yet, he's p4p, even Bradley cleaned his division of the B class fighters, even that Broner has yet to do........All smoke and mirrors

Bradley is 29, Broner is 23. You act as if they are the same age. I am not making an excuse, but I see you didnt name me a fighter that Bradley fought before he won his title. Broner just really getting started, still at the same age as Bradley was, has done more. Bradley's first name opponent was when he was 24. Bradley cleaned out a division???....nikka your memory is selective as hell. He beat **** and Alexander. Beating Casamayor and Cambell dont count as cleaning out a division....FOH. So stop it. I hope your bias and hate towards Broner helps you sleep better at night.

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Bradley is 29, Broner is 23. You act as if they are the same age. I am not making an excuse, but I see you didnt name me a fighter that Bradley fought before he won his title. Broner just really getting started, still at the same age as Bradley was, has done more. Bradley's first name opponent was when he was 24. Bradley cleaned out a division???....nikka your memory is selective as hell. He beat **** and Alexander. Beating Casamayor and Cambell dont count as cleaning out a division....FOH. So stop it. I hope your bias and hate towards Broner helps you sleep better at night.

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You bringing age into the picture trying to move the goal post and make a excuse for Broner, Broner with his p4p ranking has no reason why he doesnt have a big name on his resume, and they are about to waltz him over 140, a loaded 140:stopitslime:





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I won't even front, I'm not all that hyped up for a Broner/Malignaggi fight but Paulie is a better name than the guys currently at 135.

Broner and his people know that he's gonna have to close the year out by fighting a live threat though so I'm more interested in who he fights after Paulie.

If he doesn't fight a Peterson, LM, Rios, Marquez, Bradley, Khan, Garcia, Judah, Alexander, etc type dude by the end of the year than everybody can bytch all they want.
 

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You bringing age into the picture trying to move the goal post and make a excuse for Broner, Broner with his p4p ranking has no reason, why he doesnt name a big name on his resume, and they are about to waltz him over 140, a loaded 140:stopitslime:





:bryan: at Black Jesus and his sudden Broner alises

ok, here is where I think you have me confused. I never said Broner was P4P. I havent even looked at any P4P lists lately. Where is he ranked? Is he top 10? If so, he shouldnt be. See, I think you think I am some Broner stan or something. I am not. Just saying you are harsh on him when all other fighters like Bradley did the same thing, to an even higher degree. I am not trying to move the goal post but just look at Bradley's record before he fought for a title. Actually, what had he done to deserve a shot at Pacquiao? He beat Alexander. That has been the most notable thing he has done. Bradley shouldnt be rated as P4P either, he is just high ranked due to attrition. The best fighters out there (and like I said, I havent looked at any lists lately) should be guys like Ward, Hopkins, Dawson (despite the recent losses), Donaire, etc...
 

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I won't even front, I'm not all that hyped up for a Broner/Malignaggi fight but Paulie is a better name than the guys currently at 135.

Broner and his people know that he's gonna have to close the year out by fighting a live threat though so I'm more interested in who he fights after Paulie.

If he doesn't fight a Peterson, LM, Rios, Marquez, Bradley, Khan, Garcia, Judah, Alexander, etc type dude by the end of the year than everybody can bytch all they want.

Why not Ajose at 140:demonic:


10x tougher more interesting match, plus it'll give us a better gauge of Broner


shytty ass HBO matchup, complete waste of a match, I could beat Paulie Malinaggi:snoop:.........................:manny:
 

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ok, here is where I think you have me confused. I never said Broner was P4P. I havent even looked at any P4P lists lately. Where is he ranked? Is he top 10? If so, he shouldnt be. See, I think you think I am some Broner stan or something. I am not. Just saying you are harsh on him when all other fighters like Bradley did the same thing, to an even higher degree. I am not trying to move the goal post but just look at Bradley's record before he fought for a title. Actually, what had he done to deserve a shot at Pacquiao? He beat Alexander. That has been the most notable thing he has done. Bradley shouldnt be rated as P4P either, he is just high ranked due to attrition. The best fighters out there (and like I said, I havent looked at any lists lately) should be guys like Ward, Hopkins, Dawson (despite the recent losses), Donaire, etc...

Did I say you said he was p4p...........


He is though number 6 higher than fukking Manny Pacquiao smh, and for what, if you are gonna be hyped then at least have some solid fighters on your resume, or fight live bodies, and Broner hasnt beat shyt used his gift card already this young in his career,. He is facing Bums, and its rubbing me wrong you want to be Mayweather and talk the talk, but Mayweather was taxing asses left and right and had HOF like Winky Wright ducking a lww:birdman:
 

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ok, I just looked at Ring's current list. Broner is #6 . Which he shouldnt be. These lists are bullshyt though. It doesnt really take everything into consideration. Robert Guererro is #10 . LOL. You really take this list serious??? Dawson, Froch, Chris John, and Mares should all be on that list before Broner, Bradley and Guerrero. I see whats wrong...you are salty about that list....but I am not a Broner apologist, he shouldnt be ranked ahead of Bradley, but then again, neither of them would be in my top 10. On another note about moving up the goal post, Broner is 26-0 (22) while Bradley is 29-0 (12) while being 6 years younger. Bradley's claim to fame is a questionable decision over Pacquiao and thats why he is even in the top 10.
 

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Why not Ajose at 140:demonic:


10x tougher more interesting match, plus it'll give us a better gauge of Broner


shytty ass HBO matchup, complete waste of a match, I could beat Paulie Malinaggi:snoop:.........................:manny:

shyt I agree with you on that. Broner/Ojose is a much better fight and would be more entertaining, but it looks like HBO trying to build Broner into a star by going the path of least resistance. Paulie is a bigger name and he has a mouth so this fight will be promoted and talked up big but then that's sets the expectations high and Broner's going to have to fight a real threat or people gon really start shytting on his top ten p4p Ring ranking.

If Paulie didn't struggle so badly with Cano (I thought Cano won) a Broner fight wouldn't even look that bad.
 

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shyt I agree with you on that. Broner/Ojose is a much better fight and would be more entertaining, but it looks like HBO trying to build Broner into a star by going the path of least resistance. Paulie is a bigger name and he has a mouth so this fight will be promoted and talked up big but then that's sets the expectations high and Broner's going to have to fight a real threat or people gon really start shytting on his top ten p4p Ring ranking.

If Paulie didn't struggle so badly with Cano (I thought Cano won) a Broner fight wouldn't even look that bad.

This................


Bad enough Paulie was always a average fighter at his best, at this point he's shot:snoop:
 

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you have to realize that sometimes these rankings go by who is hot. Pac has questionably lost his last 3 fights. Broner has to be hyped...since Mayweather is heading towards the twilight of his career and Pac, Marquez, Martinez possibly already in theirs....there has to be a hype machine. Ward is the best fighter out there to me along with Money May....but surely you cant put Canelo and guys up there, which as bad as HBO would like to do they just cant at this time....so the next best thing is the next biggest mouth....Broner. Its not all about his talent, but his marketability. Hence the unwarranted hype. So in that regard I agree with you....I just dont see where you think Bradley is head and shoulders above Broner...he is not.
 
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