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[surv2syn]

He did win ugly...

I don't know who you think Timmy is bruh...Timmy ain't known for his skill and boxing IQ, he don't box around nikkas...He's an annoying little headbutting smotherer with an iron chin and heart...

Everybody knows Timmy likes to bang on the inside and has no power hence why a tough as nails pressure heavy handed Russian was a bad fukking style matchup for him...Not many dudes out there come off a 9 month layoff fighting a dude like that...

no, Timmy couldve won ugly and still made it an easier fight. he doesnt bang like that...he fights inside but then likes to move. he normally dont sit and trade like that.

question though....since yall keep talking about this layoff....name another fighter that Tim couldve fought coming off the Pac fight that he wouldve made some money with that couldve actually been made? Provodnikov is tough but he aint no better than Zaveck. I dont understand yall's logic. You say a particular weight division isnt good...are you using the eye test or are you going by records? Regardless of which one you are using....you guys are seriously overrating Provodnikov. He is not a championship level fighter. Name a STRONG resume win for him.

 

[surv2syn]

Errybody is protected when they are prospects....

this is where we agree. However, the politics of the business is, once you get a title, you parlay it into a big money opportunity. You dont go out hunting for the toughest fights with people no one knows or cares about.

I just want to know why Broner gets more criticism for it than anyone else and how before this fight everyone was saying how Bradley would maul Broner and how he is p4p? dont sit here and act like Bradley is cleaning out divisions. he only fought Abregu, Pac, and Prov at Welter. Broner may not be top 10 p4p but what makes you think Bradley is? He is only there because of attrition and everyone at 140 has lost and he hasnt. That dont make him p4p in my book.....just excellent management and promotion.

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

this is where we agree. However, the politics of the business is, once you get a title, you parlay it into a big money opportunity. You dont go out hunting for the toughest fights with people no one knows or cares about.

I just want to know why Broner gets more criticism for it than anyone else and how before this fight everyone was saying how Bradley would maul Broner and how he is p4p? dont sit here and act like Bradley is cleaning out divisions. he only fought Abregu, Pac, and Prov at Welter. Broner may not be top 10 p4p but what makes you think Bradley is? He is only there because of attrition and everyone at 140 has lost and he hasnt. That dont make him p4p in my book.....just excellent management and promotion.

Bradley is P4P cuz he beat Abregu, Alexander, Peterson (all were undefeated) N was awarded a W over

Broner obviously has more skills then Timmy but his resume aint close yet Broner is # 6 P4P thats wher the criticism comes from

In 2013 who is more dangerous N a bigger challenge the russian, zaveck, or Bailey??

 

[surv2syn]

Bradley is P4P cuz he beat Abregu, Alexander, Peterson (all were undefeated) N was awarded a W over :deadmamny:

Broner obviously has more skills then Timmy but his resume aint close yet Broner is # 6 P4P thats wher the criticism comes from

In 2013 who is more dangerous N a bigger challenge the russian, zaveck, or Bailey??

it would appear the Russian, but only because Alexander got to Bailey first or I guarantee you Bradley's camp wouldve tried to get that fight. again. promoter comes into play. Zaveck would be better on the resume if you ask me, but Thurman got to him first. Ruslan aint beat nobody breh....whether he is tough is not the issue or you are just double-talking. If anything, Bradley's performance drops him in the rankings against a resume-less fighter.

the p4p lists dont mean what they used to. its mythical and not really based on any non-subjective criteria. Broner shouldnt be in the top 10, but that dont mean Bradley should be either if you have a set criteria of some at least measurable standards.

Resume is not all that goes into P4P, thats where you make your mistake. Bradley only has 4 more fights than Broner but is 6 years older. The rate at which you move is subjective as well. I dont agree with it, just saying....the Ring ratings are subjective as hell...you dont have to agree but its nothing to get upset about over a fighter making it or not making it either.

 

[surv2syn]

right now, Bradley being signed to TR, he is in between a rock and a hard place, cuz he aint gettin another Pac fight. He can only hope to get JMM.

 

[SuikodenII]

right now, Bradley being signed to TR, he is in between a rock and a hard place, cuz he aint gettin another Pac fight. He can only hope to get JMM.

He ain't gotta hope. He holds a 147lb title, JMM wants to be a 5 weight class champ...it's damn near a done deal already

 

[HARLEM AL]

I'm not impressed with Timothy Bradley barely beating a nobody.....he doesnt deserve to be P4P nothing.


Struggling against this unknown cat


Broner would destroy Bradley

Pacq nor Ruslan could destroy him. Broner font have that 1 punch knock out power.

 

[HARLEM AL]

I could actually see Maidana beating him. He's a worker and takes punches well.

If he thought that he would have took the bradley fight instead of claiming injury.

 

[Black Miller]

once again that was a great fight- but keep in mind in that 6th round, bradley was dominating but late got hit with a bomb- but he was still trading with him. to me, you can't grade rounds by a few moments if a dude is getting outworked and outboxed the majority of it. those 1st 2 rounds the russian did his thing. tim matched ruslan shot for shot, and ruslan was punched out in the middle rounds- which is why he lost, he finished strong in the 12th he can't honestly say he won in my opinion. i can't give a dude a 10-8 round if a dude still going shot for shot with you even if he got caught, ruslan shoulda dropped him in the early rounds to guarantee a 10-8.

 

[yoyoyo1]

 

[ChocolateGiddyUp]

Bradleys pillow fists

 

[The Fukin Prophecy]

no, Timmy couldve won ugly and still made it an easier fight. he doesnt bang like that...he fights inside but then likes to move. he normally dont sit and trade like that.

question though....since yall keep talking about this layoff....name another fighter that Tim couldve fought coming off the Pac fight that he wouldve made some money with that couldve actually been made? Provodnikov is tough but he aint no better than Zaveck. I dont understand yall's logic. You say a particular weight division isnt good...are you using the eye test or are you going by records? Regardless of which one you are using....you guys are seriously overrating Provodnikov. He is not a championship level fighter. Name a STRONG resume win for him.

You don't understand our logic because you can't read...

Once again Timmy did win ugly like he ALWAYS does...This was never going to be an easy opponent for Timmy...If you honestly thought Tim Bradley was going to use distance, dance and jab around this dude for 12 rounds like Ali you obviously never seen a Tim Bradley fight...

Could Timmy have fought anybody more challenging from a skills standpoint? Yea but that doesn't negate the fact the dude he chose was a tough son of a bytch...You seem to think only A class fighters can be called tough which is a dumbass frame of mind b...Just because a dude ain't well known and flashy doesn't make him trash...There's a lot of B and C-level fighters who are all heart and tough as nails...Provo is one of them...

Stop hating...

 

[SuikodenII]

I hope they got paid well for this

 

[ℒℴѵℯJay ELECTUA]

Yall out your damn fool mind if you think Bradley wont have another big fight

Bradley got Rios, JMM, N rematch

This nikka provodnikov face lookin like ground beef tallin bout I didnt feel his punches

i wasn't a fan of timmy and hated his fights with his dirty tactics and discouraging style at times. But last night made me appreciate this big head of a beast, he stood his damn ground and took control plenty of the fight, but i also feel sorry for the siberian dude, he must be kicking himself man..he nearly had Timmy out or at least a win via points..

 

[AlbertPullhoez]

Man, them dudes did all that for our entertainment