ahhh yes berto has no defense and was concussed in round 1 vs Ortiz
Bradley was trying to prove he could slug it out against provodnokov, if he fights his normal style that doesn't happen IMHO
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ahhh yes berto has no defense and was concussed in round 1 vs Ortiz
Bradley was trying to prove he could slug it out against provodnokov, if he fights his normal style that doesn't happen IMHO
Nah that is his normal style at this point. He's been like that since the Alexander fight. He just wants to slug with people.
Ortiz gave berto a concussion in the first round he was lucky to make it 12 that night, if anything berto had the lucky KD's in that fight. While I wouldn't consistently praise Victor Ortiz, he thoroughly outclassed berto that night, probably his best performance as a pro, while turning berto into damaged goods
ChocolateGiddyUp
Superstar
An old article about this when it happened:
Archie Solis: Saul Alvarez Attacked Me Over a Woman - Boxing News
at Jorge Solis also being there when it happened and not jumping in to help his little brother
So, you have 2 brothers who are former World Champions (Ulises Solis was IBF Champ and Jorge Solis was WBA Champ) in the gym at the same time and Saul Alvarez just waltzed in and beat the fukk out of the younger one while the older one just watched?
Canelo hit him with a left and right cross?
This is the girl they were fighting over though:
Saul Alvarez
Archi needs to take two steps back and realize what a potential moneymaking opportunity he has here. He could probably get a grip of loot and a promotional deal with GBP if he agrees not to go forward with any charges agaianst Alvarez.
And his brother watching Alvarez pummel him is just cold-blooded...Archi is only 5'3 while alvarez is around 5'9. How you gonna let some dude that much bigger beat up your little bro?
And his brother watching Alvarez pummel him is just cold-blooded...Archi is only 5'3 while alvarez is around 5'9. How you gonna let some dude that much bigger beat up your little bro?
Black Gatsby
Lord$ Never Worry
Guerrero said he's faster than Floyd smh
With Supporters like Bob Arum, Guillermo Rigondeaux Needs No Detractors
Unusually blunt Bob Arum pays a publicist to distribute articles about his fighter Guillermo Rigondeaux that are less than flattering. Fred Sternburg, an independent public relations specialist who works for Arum’s Top Rank Promotions, has been distributing stories on Facebook and Twitter that condemn Rigondeaux as a boring fighter who didn’t help his career much by defeating popular Nonito Donaire.
Arum himself is clearly wedded to the idea that he can’t make much money with the defensive-minded, undefeated Cuban defector. You could argue that Arum and Sternburg deserve credit for their open-minded stance, but Rigondeaux may not feel that way.
One of the articles, by Yahoo Sports’s Kevin Iole, states, “Floyd Mayweather Jr., one of the great defensive combatants in recent history, fights defensively like Rigondeaux and makes his opponent miss, but Mayweather brings the added element of landing clean, counter punches.”
Yet Rigondeaux’s clean, lightning counterpunches, looking very much like Mayweather’s slick shots, were dazzling. Clearly Donaire had never seen anything like them, and it left him confused. Worse, Donaire just didn’t see those shots coming at him.
Iole also quoted Arum himself denigrating both the fight and Rigondeaux’s style. “It was not a very engaging fight. … When Rigondeaux stands and fights, the [expletive] has a lot of power and a lot of skill, but running the way he does really makes it not a watchable fight.”
The headline of the negative Iole story? “The Loss Column: Beating Nonito Donaire Won’t Do Much for Guillermo Rigondeaux’s Popularity.” Sternburg is often balanced in his distribution of articles and includes unflattering assessments of Top Rank fighters. But there have been exceptions. When Antonio Margarito was caught with plaster loads n his wraps, Top Rank pretty much ignored articles pointing out it was very unlikely that the fighter knew nothing about it.
But Margarito had a big following. Rigondeaux, who extended his contract with Top Rank, last year, doesn’t. It’s not clear just when the contract runs out.
Another recent article distributed by Sternburg, from ESPN.com’s Dan Rafael, was headlined “Rigondeaux Bores, but Bests Donaire.”
Rafael called it “a tight, but often boring, unanimous decision.” Rafael wrote that Rigondeaux spent “long chunks of the fight going backward. It wasn’t fun to watch, but it was quite effective — while drawing regular booing from the crowd.” Rafael also quoted Arum saying that Rigondeaux, 32, did too much “running.”
The Rafael article ended with this less than enthusiastic quote from Arum: “I don’t know what I’m gonna do. I have to look for someone to fight him. He’s one of the best defensive fighters I’ve ever seen, but it’s not a very pleasing style. He’s a very good fighter, but it’s not pleasing, so we will have to see.”
Arum has complained in the past that it’s a tough job promoting Cuban fighters in the U.S. “Cuban Olympic champions can’t sell out the front row of a dancehall in Miami,” he once said. Black Cuban fighters, he said, get virtually no support from white Cuban-Amereicans or African-Americans. Although Arum, 81, has never showed even a trace of senility, advancing age has made him more frank in his observations.
It’s a fact that up until now Cuban defectors have received little support from U.S. fans. They come into the game with amateur styles that make them less than attractive to average fans. If Rigondeaux fought balls-to-the-wall like, for example, Brandon Rios, he’d be less effective but more popular. His career could also suffer longevity trouble. Some people, said writer Jack Kerouac, are like Roman candles. They burn bright, but they can’t last long.
Truly knowledgeable fans tend to be appreciative of Rigondeaux’s deft moves and stellar ability to slip punches. Enter virtually any boxing gym in America and ask trainers and fighters what they think of him and most would be awed by his talent. He now owns two junior featherweight alphabet titles and is undisputedly at the top of his division. If he wants to pursue Donaire again, or go after Abner Mares, another popular junior featherweight, he’ll have to chase both of them up to featherweight. He’ll also have to do it with a less than enthusiastic promoter.
:pacspit at these so called boxing experts, and
at Arum
Unusually blunt Bob Arum pays a publicist to distribute articles about his fighter Guillermo Rigondeaux that are less than flattering. Fred Sternburg, an independent public relations specialist who works for Arum’s Top Rank Promotions, has been distributing stories on Facebook and Twitter that condemn Rigondeaux as a boring fighter who didn’t help his career much by defeating popular Nonito Donaire.
Arum himself is clearly wedded to the idea that he can’t make much money with the defensive-minded, undefeated Cuban defector. You could argue that Arum and Sternburg deserve credit for their open-minded stance, but Rigondeaux may not feel that way.
One of the articles, by Yahoo Sports’s Kevin Iole, states, “Floyd Mayweather Jr., one of the great defensive combatants in recent history, fights defensively like Rigondeaux and makes his opponent miss, but Mayweather brings the added element of landing clean, counter punches.”
Yet Rigondeaux’s clean, lightning counterpunches, looking very much like Mayweather’s slick shots, were dazzling. Clearly Donaire had never seen anything like them, and it left him confused. Worse, Donaire just didn’t see those shots coming at him.
Iole also quoted Arum himself denigrating both the fight and Rigondeaux’s style. “It was not a very engaging fight. … When Rigondeaux stands and fights, the [expletive] has a lot of power and a lot of skill, but running the way he does really makes it not a watchable fight.”
The headline of the negative Iole story? “The Loss Column: Beating Nonito Donaire Won’t Do Much for Guillermo Rigondeaux’s Popularity.” Sternburg is often balanced in his distribution of articles and includes unflattering assessments of Top Rank fighters. But there have been exceptions. When Antonio Margarito was caught with plaster loads n his wraps, Top Rank pretty much ignored articles pointing out it was very unlikely that the fighter knew nothing about it.
But Margarito had a big following. Rigondeaux, who extended his contract with Top Rank, last year, doesn’t. It’s not clear just when the contract runs out.
Another recent article distributed by Sternburg, from ESPN.com’s Dan Rafael, was headlined “Rigondeaux Bores, but Bests Donaire.”
Rafael called it “a tight, but often boring, unanimous decision.” Rafael wrote that Rigondeaux spent “long chunks of the fight going backward. It wasn’t fun to watch, but it was quite effective — while drawing regular booing from the crowd.” Rafael also quoted Arum saying that Rigondeaux, 32, did too much “running.”
The Rafael article ended with this less than enthusiastic quote from Arum: “I don’t know what I’m gonna do. I have to look for someone to fight him. He’s one of the best defensive fighters I’ve ever seen, but it’s not a very pleasing style. He’s a very good fighter, but it’s not pleasing, so we will have to see.”
Arum has complained in the past that it’s a tough job promoting Cuban fighters in the U.S. “Cuban Olympic champions can’t sell out the front row of a dancehall in Miami,” he once said. Black Cuban fighters, he said, get virtually no support from white Cuban-Amereicans or African-Americans. Although Arum, 81, has never showed even a trace of senility, advancing age has made him more frank in his observations.
It’s a fact that up until now Cuban defectors have received little support from U.S. fans. They come into the game with amateur styles that make them less than attractive to average fans. If Rigondeaux fought balls-to-the-wall like, for example, Brandon Rios, he’d be less effective but more popular. His career could also suffer longevity trouble. Some people, said writer Jack Kerouac, are like Roman candles. They burn bright, but they can’t last long.
Truly knowledgeable fans tend to be appreciative of Rigondeaux’s deft moves and stellar ability to slip punches. Enter virtually any boxing gym in America and ask trainers and fighters what they think of him and most would be awed by his talent. He now owns two junior featherweight alphabet titles and is undisputedly at the top of his division. If he wants to pursue Donaire again, or go after Abner Mares, another popular junior featherweight, he’ll have to chase both of them up to featherweight. He’ll also have to do it with a less than enthusiastic promoter.
:pacspit at these so called boxing experts, and
at Arum
You can't really argue with that point though. there were instances in that Donaire fight where Rigondeaux wasn't being defensive but instead was just on his bike for the entire round. He also is not nearly aggressive/busy enough in his fights to become a fan favorite fighter that the public is going to want to see and he has no personality to speak of to compensate for his less than thrilling fighting style.
It's a dikk move for Arum to be biting his fighter's back out though. His job isn't to point out how non-fan friendly Rigondeaux is as a fighter but instead he is supposed to be promoting him as a rising star that everyone should want to watch.
JohnStarksMiddleFinger
Benz L. Bo$$ington
Why doesn't Pacquiao take a tune up first.
I don't understand why Arum is trying to sign
with a red hot opponent.
Honestly I'd rather see Manny smash on a tomato can first to at least show that he isn't completley shot. 3 straight losses and its RIP his career.
I know we prefer the big fights, but lets see him in a tune up first
I don't understand why Arum is trying to sign
with a red hot opponent. Honestly I'd rather see Manny smash on a tomato can first to at least show that he isn't completley shot. 3 straight losses and its RIP his career.
I know we prefer the big fights, but lets see him in a tune up first
Black Gatsby
Lord$ Never Worry
Oh yeah at Guerrero's dad trying to get brolic incase he has to fight with Floyd's dad. Ol' boy was banging weights and flexing his muscles as if to say he is ready
at Guerrero's dad trying to get brolic incase he has to fight with Floyd's dad. Ol' boy was banging weights and flexing his muscles as if to say he is ready
Why doesn't Pacquiao take a tune up first.
I don't understand why Arum is trying to sign
Honestly I'd rather see Manny smash on a tomato can first to at least show that he isn't completley shot. 3 straight losses and its RIP his career.
I know we prefer the big fights, but lets see him in a tune up first
Arum is trying to get maximum profit out of Pac (on the off chance that he is shot) so he is going to throw him in with every name opponent he can think of.
JohnStarksMiddleFinger
Benz L. Bo$$ington
A$VP Hagler★;3948172 said:Oh yeah
I got admit I was a little impressed.
"Look at this 'ol flabby n sick abuelo ass nikka acting like he can lift that bar."
well damn