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Black_Jesus
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I am not sure that its more of a weight drain thing than it is as Canelo truly wanting FMJ at 154 which would obviously be more in his favor. you have to remember that Canelo was once a JWW. before you start bashing me for bringing up that point....I didnt get much response when I posted howwanted Serge to come to 147 AND weigh in day of no more than 150. thats even worse, because I dont think Floyd has a day-of limitation.
Floyd is WW champ and meeting his obligations. The WBA will need to force him to defend at 154 if we are going to see that fight anytime soon at that weight.
See, here's the thing....if Mayweather wanted to fight at 154, why not get Sergio, I am sure he would come down. Everybody wins in that situation. Floyd gets a more credible opponent than Canelo. Canelo gets Cotto. Martinez gets a retirement check. Canelo still gets Floyd in May.
I'll respond... for starters unlike Floyd... Pac has never fought a 154 lb fighter even though he had a belt which he has since vacated since the weight was too much for him.... Floyd has fought 154 lb nikkas twice, once recently...
You talking why not get Sergio?? At 154???He pulled the same bullshyt before stating if Sergio could make 150 NOT 154 a fight could happen.. its crazy because when he said that he was bragging about how Cottos is really undefeated and that he would fight him at 154 no problem.. so you have a situation where he can only fight certain people at 154 and certain people at 147. How convenient
.... now hes pulling the same spineless shyt with Canelo... Now the 154 pounder can only fight Floyd at 147
Lets keep coppin pleas for Floydie though... the shyt is amusing
InvictusAeternusEternus
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Who's more crooked than a congressman ?
A phillipino congressman !
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A phillipino congressman !
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InvictusAeternusEternus
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Held a 154 lb belt , never fought a 154 lber !
Black_Jesus
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Held a 154 lb belt , never fought a 154 lber !
Actually Margerito blew up to 165 by fight night vs Pac who was only 148
Held a 154 lb belt , never fought a 154 lber !
thank you.
which is it? did he fight a 154 lber or didnt he?
matters a damn. talk about coppin pleas. :putamadre:
Black_Jesus
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No.. like I said the first rime... Pac never "fought" a 154 pounder.. he was 165
my point is, no matter what you accuse Floyd of, Pac has done the same thing, but some how he has apologists for it and Floyd is held to a different standard.
you guys say Floyd has a belt at 154 so why doesnt he defend. we say, Manny had a belt why didnt he.
you counter by saying, yes he had a belt but didnt fight at JMW, then why did he have the title in the first place?
at winning a title at a catchweight. somewhere SRL is :mike:
Black_Jesus
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@synistr
Aye man i'm not trying to give you or anyone else a hard time about this shyt, im just calling bullshyt...because Floyd is doing exactly what he and everyone else chastised and criticized Pac for doing.. Now because its the bytch everyone coppin pleas.. this nikka pretty much saying, "oh I can fight Cotto at 154 but I cant fight Martinez unless its 150 oh but I cant fight Canelo less its 147"
said he'll fight ANYONE 150 and below
Aye man i'm not trying to give you or anyone else a hard time about this shyt, im just calling bullshyt...because Floyd is doing exactly what he and everyone else chastised and criticized Pac for doing.. Now because its the bytch everyone coppin pleas.. this nikka pretty much saying, "oh I can fight Cotto at 154 but I cant fight Martinez unless its 150 oh but I cant fight Canelo less its 147"
said he'll fight ANYONE 150 and below
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InvictusAeternusEternus
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Margarito is a non entity in my book ! I deleted that piece of sh!t cheating scumbag from my memory files !
@synistr
Aye man i'm not trying to give you or anyone else a hard time about this shyt, im just calling bullshyt...because Floyd is doing exactly what he and everyone else chastised and criticized Pac for doing.. Now because its the bytch everyone coppin pleas.. this nikka pretty much saying, "oh I can fight Cotto at 154 but I cant fight Martinez unless its 150 oh but I cant fight Canelo less its 147"
but see, I never chastised Pac, thats the difference. I just watch the fights. I dont be in the barbershop like these nikkas that :udontknow: talmbout Floyd is a paper champion or Pac is a paper champion. Like George Foreman said to Larry Merchant "everybody is a paper champion (if you want to start discrediting fighters)"
I give credit where credit is due. I only chastise when a stan tries to tear down a fighter to boost up his guy.
I be in the barbershop or at the bar and people be like....Roy Jones was a weight jumper. thats why I dont talk to casuals....I keep my mouth shut. its like arguing with somebody about religion. nikkas that know the least make the biggest deal about it.
I just hate hype. Dont sit here and tell me Roy is a paper champion or he is afraid when he came from 193 (muscle not fat) to 175 to fight Tarver for about $5 mil then tell me this joker cant go down 7 lbs to fight Floyd and get at least $10 mil. Just hold everyone to the same standard, thats all.
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ChocolateGiddyUp
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I'm on record that the Floyd/Ginger fight should be at 154 not WW N not no damn catchweight
If you wanna rehydration clause to 165 that's ok
Beat ginger @154 drop the belt N finish out the career at 147
If you wanna rehydration clause to 165 that's ok
Beat ginger @154 drop the belt N finish out the career at 147