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Honestly...he can fight Floyd for 10 milly, and then fight Cotto for 10 milly too, maybe a little more. I just don't see Floyd giving him TWICE that bread up front fam, when as a pay per view he isn't proven at ALL. Maybe with back end but I can't see 20 million, And I agrre with you often....right down to the hilarious avi

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somehow I dont think a Cotto fight is as big if Canelo gets washed like Guerrero did. Cotto may be looking for other opportunities by then. Cotto surely aint gonna wait til mid-year 2014 to fight Canelo, he wouldve moved on and possibly added another L by then. which would render the fight pointless to Canelo. fighting a guy who lost to the guy he beat and possibly having another loss back to back.

as far as TWICE the bread. if that fight does 1.5 mil, which is more likely in May than this year....I dont see why Floyd wouldnt...when thats only half of what he offered the Pac Man. He is already gonna get at least $32 off top like he did with Ghost. Plus Canelo will have rallied all of Mexico by that time.
 

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Even with all the L's and KO's
Mayweather/Canelo would be a fraction of What Mayweather/Pac coulda a been...

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We can truly gauge after Canelo has a PPV with Cotto, even still it will be subjective considering Manny has been hiding his numbers for years, and Manny besides the Bradley fight always had a dance partner that could bring in buys
 

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So Floyd can'tadd a rehydration clause in the contract?

we are kinda nitpicking here without being in the shoes of the fighters. we are on the outside looking in.

Floyd wants to be fair. His fair may not be the same fair to me, you, or Canelo.
What would be more fair in your opinion? Come to 147 with no re-hydrate clause or come halfway with re-hydrate clause?

Floyd is asking him to make the WW limit. I havent read yet that Floyd wont allow him to come in the ring as a MW or more. If he does..hey...he's a shrewd dude.
 

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somehow I dont think a Cotto fight is as big if Canelo gets washed like Guerrero did. Cotto may be looking for other opportunities by then. Cotto surely aint gonna wait til mid-year 2014 to fight Canelo, he wouldve moved on and possibly added another L by then. which would render the fight pointless to Canelo. fighting a guy who lost to the guy he beat and possibly having another loss back to back.

as far as TWICE the bread. if that fight does 1.5 mil, which is more likely in May than this year....I dont see why Floyd wouldnt...when thats only half of what he offered the Pac Man. He is already gonna get at least $32 off top like he did with Ghost. Plus Canelo will have rallied all of Mexico by that time.
I don't understand why Cotto gets all these looks after 1 loss, much less 2, but I assume his fanbase will rock with him until knocked out. Mexican fans stuck by Oscar for EVERY loss, and losing to mayweather doesn't lessen your payday or chances only because he beats everyone. Look at Marquez....shyt long as Canelo doesn't get knocked out I assume he could fight Cotto right after and if he wins by a large margin get the Floyd rematch for his last fight...Floyd cashes out, Canelo goes on winning streak beating opponents not ready for him. Everyone wins..
 

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So isnt Floyd demanding Canelo drop 7 lbs not basically a catchweight??

Canelo is basically a super middle weight who drains to junior middleweight the rehydrates and uses that as a advantage. So it's not basically a catchweight if Canelo wants the fight...Floyd would damn near have to fight someone 5 weight classes bigger.
 

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Danny earned the shot nikkas should be calling for him to face Floyd, but them bytch ass Pactard Khans fans steadily hate him and call him a one handed one dimensional fighter even though he out counterpunch a counterpuncher in Zab, and had Zab dancing from right after right.

But Canelo is the Boogeyman after winning a fight where 2/3's of the experts felt he lost:skip:
 

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So isnt Floyd demanding Canelo drop 7 lbs not basically a catchweight??

absolutely not. its a chance to fight for a title in another division....not a catchweight.

was Ward vs Dawson a catchweight? a catchweight means an agreement to fight at weights with restriction that is out of the ordinary.

weighing in at 147 means just that. you are fighting for the welterweight title. there's no "catch" to it. you either want the title or you dont.
 

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So Canelo adding 20 pounds on overnight is ok? Floyd being at 148 and Canelo at 171 sound fair?:mindblown:

Guys fight with these size disadvantages all the time in MMA, where size matters a lot fukking more. shyt, we just had a discussion a few pages back about how size don't matter as much as skills.

"Skills pay the bills"

Like I said, I do not care. I'm not saying something is right or wrong. Just that Floyd's a fukking hypocrite for trying to do the exact same shyt he called Manny on just last year.
 

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Guys fight with these size disadvantages all the time in MMA, where size matters a lot fukking more. shyt, we just had a discussion a few pages back about how size don't matter as much as skills.

"Skills pay the bills"

Like I said, I do not care. I'm not saying something is right or wrong. Just that Floyd's a fukking hypocrite for trying to do the exact same shyt he called Manny on just last year.

you are looking at it wrong breh....Floyd said he doesnt do catchweights...meaning he dont meet in between weights to fight. Manny vs Margs was a CW because Manny wanted a fight in another division even though he didnt weigh in at the division limit....so by adding a CW you dont give a fighter the opportunity to weigh in at his divisional limit. DLH-Hopkins was a CW. (just so you dont think I am picking on Manny)

CW is if Floyd asked Canelo for a JMW fight but does not allow him to use the JMW limit. He is not doing that, he is asking him to fight as a WW. Whether you agree with that or not, you are not wrong for doing so. However you would be wrong for calling it a CW.
 
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