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[surv2syn]

They both publically stated that they don't want to fight eachother out of mutual respect and honestly, torch passing

Same situation as Mayweather and Broner

Speaking of which...if he's really dropping back down to 135 after this fight (as he should...Gamboa needs his ass whooped alongside Burns) then for his fight with Paulie, it would be intelligent of him to weigh in at 141

There's absolutely no need to balloon all the way up to 147, especially for Paulie Malignaggi, considering his style and physical deficiency

yeah, I dont think he should weigh in anymore than 142 max. just no need. by fight time he will be around 147-150 if he is in good shape.

 

[surv2syn]

With Froch not wanting to fight Ward again unless it's in the UK, the only highly marketable fights for Ward at 168 lie with either Chavez Jr or Martinez moving up to 168

At 175, with, again, he and Hopkins both not wanting to face one another, that only leaves Chad Dawson, whom he's already KO'd

With that said, if no Dawson, then why move up? The same challenges he could face at 175 are at 168.

If the UK fight is highly lucrative, then it could be made, yet Froch flat out said he did NOT want to face Ward again, for his own personal reasons. (he got his ass whooped last time, he knows that)

If I were Ward I'd keep trying my hand at either Froch II, Martinez, Chavez Jr. or Dawson provided that Dawson look impressive June 8th

this...

 

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nikka ward doesn't even want a rematch
he won the first fight convincingly
there's no reason to think he won't whoop him again
if froch wants to redeem himself, he fights on wards terms
plain and simple
he should be happy ward's even entertaining a rematch

What don't people understand he don't need ward, Froch is a big draw, he dont need to bow down to Ward and kiss his ass also

 

[L68]

That's Wards fault for staying in that weak ass division....ain't nothing left for dude...move up N clean out 175 fight some new faces

Instead this nikka wanna stay fighting euros he already beat in Oakland N get called P4P #2

i agree.. i also think hes waiting for JCC to move up and get a big money fight with him before he decides to move up tho

 

[RTF]

nikka ward doesn't even want a rematch
he won the first fight convincingly
there's no reason to think he won't whoop him again
if froch wants to redeem himself, he fights on wards terms
plain and simple
he should be happy ward's even entertaining a rematch

That would be nice if Ward had many other options or was so much more of a bigger draw.

Ward is #2 P4P and he's not nearly as big as he **should** be.

 

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i agree.. i also think hes waiting for JCC to move up and get a big money fight with him before he decides to move up tho

Ward is smoking crack if he thinks Arum will let him slaughter Chavez...................


By the time Chavez moves up it will be on to the Froch money train, now thats huge fight potential, fight Ward for what

 

[LauderdaleBoss]

What don't people understand he don't need ward, Froch is a big draw, he dont need to bow down to Ward and kiss his ass also

I actually think it would do Ward's career and public perception some good by beating Froch again in Froch's hometown. Although I had Ward winning the first fight 9 rds to 3, Froch is on a lil roll now and has the money behind him and its not like there's other fights out there for dude. He already don't fight enough as it is.

A Chavez Jr. fight only looks good if Jr. had an impressive win at super middle.

Martinez looks to be done and won't fight again this year.

Froch can move up an fight the winner of Dawson/Stevenson and that would be a big fight. He has more options to me.

 

[RTF]

A lot of cats need to learn from Froch in this boxing game. You can fight smartly and conservatively, control all conditions in bouts to preserve your undefeated streak but at the end of the day, the people won't love you for that.

Ward is #2 and no fukks are given for him in the public. If you not going to be exciting in the ring, choose exciting fights in exciting venues.

My nikka barely fights and when he does, it's in Oakland. Aint nobody gunna love a nikka like that.


My nikka Froch was probably too naive before. Fight everyone hands down in their own turf. But he has the people's respect now.

 

[Suiken]

If he already whopped froch's ass convincingly
Why in the hell does froch or anyone else think he can dictate the terms of a rematch?
And now what...ward is the ducker

Yall need to learn how boxing works

Not to mention, he hurt his hands during the fight

 

[surv2syn]

What don't people understand he don't need ward, Froch is a big draw, he dont need to bow down to Ward and kiss his ass also

you are correct. Froch doesnt need Ward...at least not to make money he doesnt.

 

[yoyoyo1]

A lot of cats need to learn from Froch in this boxing game. You can fight smartly and conservatively, control all conditions in bouts to preserve your undefeated streak but at the end of the day, the people won't love you for that.

Ward is [URL=http://www.the-coli.com/usertag.php?do=list&action=hash&hash=2]#2 [/URL] and no fukks are given for him in the public. If you not going to be exciting in the ring, choose exciting fights in exciting venues.

My nikka barely fights and when he does, it's in Oakland. Aint nobody gunna love a nikka like that.


My nikka Froch was probably too naive before. Fight everyone hands down in their own turf. But he has the people's respect now.

This post sums it up, it is THE point. If Froch were fighting the same exact time as Ward, guess who I'm watching. This is hardly a Mayweather/Gatti situation, this is #1 at 168 vs #2 at 168.

Froch fought Taylor in the USA.
Pascal, Dirrell, Bute at home.
Kessler in Denmark.
Abraham in Finland.
Ward in the USA.

And is a better fighter than ever.

Ward

Miranda, Kessler, Green, Bika, Abraham, Dawson at home.
Froch in NJ.


The nerve of Ward to talk about overseas or getting robbed. Not to mention his fights are not the best.

And Ward isn't even interested in fighting Froch, GTFO. That is a duck. Whlie Froch is cleaning the division up these days, Ward is staying back cherrypicking drained fighters to fight at home. The reverse Bute. Proved himself now is taking it easy.

 

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Andre Ward is talking nonsense. He's desperate for a fight. He's got nowhere to go. Someone needs to remind him I'm the IBF and WBA champion and he's not got a belt," Froch told Sky Sports.

"Andre Ward should come to the UK. I've boxed Andre Ward in America. He should come to the UK and fight me, it's as simple as that. Why do I need to travel? Why do I need to go to America to become a star?

"But as the champion, I'm holding two belts at the minute. Andre Ward needs me more than I need him. I'd like to fight him as I'd like to be given the opportunity to avenge a defeat, but I've got other options. Andre Ward's got no options.

"He's living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks I'm going to fly out to California and fight him in his home town or anywhere in America for that matter and let him think he's holding all the cards and calling the shots.



Froch sonning that bytch made nikka

 

[SuikodenII]

#1 Super Flyweight in the World, Omar Navaez vs Felipe Orucuta............

People were saying that this was gonna be Navaez's toughest test since Donaire back in 2011, were they right?............watch and find out......

Spoiler

Orucuta deserves an IMMEDIATE rematch

 

[NormanConnors]

A lot of cats need to learn from Froch in this boxing game. You can fight smartly and conservatively, control all conditions in bouts to preserve your undefeated streak but at the end of the day, the people won't love you for that.

Ward is #2 and no fukks are given for him in the public. If you not going to be exciting in the ring, choose exciting fights in exciting venues.

My nikka barely fights and when he does, it's in Oakland. Aint nobody gunna love a nikka like that.


My nikka Froch was probably too naive before. Fight everyone hands down in their own turf. But he has the people's respect now.

What's wrong with a fighter trying to fight/bring money to his city? Especially one that needs it? Thomas Hearns used to fight in the D all of the time. Peoples champ

 

[Lurking Class Hero]

Andre Ward is talking nonsense. He's desperate for a fight. He's got nowhere to go. Someone needs to remind him I'm the IBF and WBA champion and he's not got a belt," Froch told Sky Sports.

"Andre Ward should come to the UK. I've boxed Andre Ward in America. He should come to the UK and fight me, it's as simple as that. Why do I need to travel? Why do I need to go to America to become a star?

"But as the champion, I'm holding two belts at the minute. Andre Ward needs me more than I need him. I'd like to fight him as I'd like to be given the opportunity to avenge a defeat, but I've got other options. Andre Ward's got no options.

"He's living in cloud cuckoo land if he thinks I'm going to fly out to California and fight him in his home town or anywhere in America for that matter and let him think he's holding all the cards and calling the shots.



Froch sonning that bytch made nikka

Not really. That statement actually doesn't really give me the impression that he badly wants to fight Ward. First he gives specific conditions which need to be met in order for the fight to take place (which considering Ward beat him quite comfortably aren't really justified), then he makes sure to emphasize his other options. Plus Froch admits he was fairly beaten by Ward. I don't see any good reason for him to believe the outcome would be different, let alone us.