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canelo was 153 for his last fight
a 23 year old kid going down to 152 will not drain him or make him dehydrated
cotto was having trouble making 147
so yes, pacquaio making a 145 catchweight killed him
things need to put into context, everything is not black or white

Cotto was 146 in his fight before Manny. 4 other times he was 145-146. He was not having trouble making weight. Don't embarrass yourself.
 

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I can't even take you serious after that. Yeah lets ignore the fact that Cotto was doing a marathon around the ring while throwing hard shots trying to keep Tonio from walking him down. Lets act like that had nothing to do with him gassing out. Let's ignore the fact that Cotto's face busts up easily anytime someone puts a decent amount of hands on him. Besides, if me saying that I need actual proof that someone did something in order for me to believe something happened is defending a cheater then :manny:

I guess I should believe Wlad put something on his gloves in order to bust up Bryd's face in the 1st fight. I guess I should believe that someone drugged Wlad when he fought Brewster as well.

Every nikka has some conspiracy theory for the ass whipping they took. I guess I gotta believe them too. :lolbron: I'm not saying its out of the realm of possibility that Margo cheated, but I haven't seen the proof he did or proof from his whole career of fights. Just the Mosley fight and it wouldn 't have made a difference then seeing how both dudes ending up fighting that night.

At the end of the day, you're going to believe what you believe and I'm gonna believe what I believe. I ain't gotta toss insults or disrespect you either cuz we all boxing fans in this bytch.

cotto had never swelled up to the level ever
his face was a complete and total mess and never recovered
you wanna believe cheato won the welterweight title fairly and den suddenly decided to cheat against what was supposed to be a washed up shane mosley, then it's on you
the only thing you are right about is that cotto did get tired late in the fight.
but you know, getting hit with concrete will do that to you:dahell:
 

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cotto had never swelled up to the level ever
his face was a complete and total mess and never recovered
you wanna believe cheato won the welterweight title fairly and den suddenly decided to cheat against what was supposed to be a washed up shane mosley, then it's on you
the only thing you are right about is that cotto did get tired late in the fight.
but you know, getting hit with concrete will do that to you:dahell:

:heh:

And if you wanna believe Margarito was landing fight changing haymakers in the early rounds that supposedly busted Cotto up instead of the body shots and sneaky uppercuts that kept him losing competitively then that's you. If you also wanna believe that constant movement while under pressure when you don't have great stamina doesn't get you tired than that's you.

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cotto had never swelled up to the level ever
his face was a complete and total mess and never recovered
you wanna believe cheato won the welterweight title fairly and den suddenly decided to cheat against what was supposed to be a washed up shane mosley, then it's on you
the only thing you are right about is that cotto did get tired late in the fight.
but you know, getting hit with concrete will do that to you:dahell:

Cotto also never took that many uppercuts in any fight. shyt, he had never taken that many uppercuts in three fights. Go watch the fight again and see how many times he leans over his lead foot and then get smacked right in the face by an uppercut.
 

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cotto had never swelled up to the level ever
his face was a complete and total mess and never recovered
you wanna believe cheato won the welterweight title fairly and den suddenly decided to cheat against what was supposed to be a washed up shane mosley, then it's on you
the only thing you are right about is that cotto did get tired late in the fight.
but you know, getting hit with concrete will do that to you:dahell:

Tbh I thought manny messed cotto face up more.
 

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Cotto was 146 in his fight before Manny. 4 other times he was 145-146. He was not having trouble making weight. Don't embarrass yourself.

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"alex Ariza has long been in the business of body conditioning and thus, knows exactly when an athlete is already in his proper frame of health.

One look at reigning welterweight champion Miguel Cotto at this point in time, and Ariza can clearly say the 28-year old warrior from Caguas, Puerto Rico is having an issue going down to 145 pounds.

“Personally, I think he’s having a hard time losing weight," Ariza said. “He looked a little gaunt."

But Ariza based it on how he sees Cotto, the reigning World Boxing Organization (WBO) champion, in newspaper clippings and TV interviews.

“And also I only hear things about it, on how hard he’s been working out lately the way he has never worked out before," he added.

A natural welterweight, Cotto’s camp has been evading questions surrounding his current weight, insisting the champion would be able to meet the catch weight of 145lbs. The former Olympian has never fought below 147 pounds since 2006, and under the contract he signed for the Pacquiao fight, a pound in excess of the catch weight is equal to a $1 million penalty.


What caught Ariza’s sharp eyes was the shape Miguel Cotto was in, in the last day of the press tour that carried the Puerto Rican champion, and Manny Pacquiao, the reigning pound-for-pound king from the Philippines, to New York, Puerto Rico and San Francisco and LA over the last five days.

“Did you see him out there? He must be weighing 160 pounds,"


He said Cotto weighing as much (the WBO champion said a few days ago he was at 159 lb) gives him the feeling that the wide-bodied Puerto Rican might find it quite difficult making the catchweight limit of 145 lb. Pacquiao is just a little over 150, and with two months left is safely there.


“He (Cotto) must be 160 pounds and we’re fighting at 145 with only two months left. He’s got a lot more work to do than us. We also have work to do but Cotto has got to lose a lot of weight"

Cotto's body was growing out of welterweight
arum and pacquaio knew he had weight problems since his 140 days and exploited it

There's a reason why cotto never fought at welterweight again after that fight and there's a reason why he didn't wanna d0 150 catchweight with manny for a second fight

you don't no what you are talking about:manny:
 

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Cotto also never took that many uppercuts in any fight. shyt, he had never taken that many uppercuts in three fights. Go watch the fight again and see how many times he leans over his lead foot and then get smacked right in the face by an uppercut.

you aint hearing what i'm saying
if your in a fist fight with someone and that person punches you in the face with brass knuckles, is it not gonna effect the rest of the fight?:aicmon:
cotto was getting caught so much because he was HURT
he was HURT because he was getting hit with concrete
the later it went in the fight, the harder the plaster got.
if margarito didn't have that in his gloves, i doubt he could even hurt cotto
which again, changes the whole fight
shane mosley had cheato looking like a welterweight version of peter mc neely in their fight:krs:

nikka lost all of his remaining fights when he didn't have loaded gloves and eventually said fukk it and retired cause he knew he wasn't shyt without him

oh my bad, he lost 3 of his last 4 fights. he beat robert garcia in mexcio, and he couldn't even knock him down:heh: dis nikkas punching power just vanished,i wonda why
 

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From what I heard, is that after Margarito got all Hollywood on a nikka after the Cotto win, he ain't train like he should have and his peoples got spooked seeing that he could possibly lose to the underdog in Shane and they went and tried to pull the shyt they did with the wraps in order to have an edge. Thankfully Brother Naz caught it and dude got the piss beat out of him.

That's from what I heard. Now everybody has their own take on the situation and what they willing to believe. As of now, nobody knows for sure if he did that shyt his whole career so me being me, I won't act or treat dude as if he did that since there's no proof, just stories and speculation. There's nothing else I can really say in regards to that shyt.

BS Margarito always train 150% if anything he was overtrained and drained as fukk vs Mosley his big ass weighing 145 like he lil Floyd or Manny or something.........................................:manny:
 

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BS Margarito always train 150% if anything he was drained as fukk vs Mosley weighing 145 like he lil Floyd or Manny or something.........................................

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It's like I said in my earlier posts, nikkas gon choose to believe what they want to. Just like you don't think it's possible for Margarito to get the big head after the Cotto victory and come in training camp overweight and look bad throughout. All we doing is arguing theories right now.
 

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From what I heard, is that after Margarito got all Hollywood on a nikka after the Cotto win, he ain't train like he should have and his peoples got spooked seeing that he could possibly lose to the underdog in Shane and they went and tried to pull the shyt they did with the wraps in order to have an edge. Thankfully Brother Naz caught it and dude got the piss beat out of him.

That's from what I heard. Now everybody has their own take on the situation and what they willing to believe. As of now, nobody knows for sure if he did that shyt his whole career so me being me, I won't act or treat dude as if he did that since there's no proof, just stories and speculation. There's nothing else I can really say in regards to that shyt.

Where exactly did you heard this ?
 

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:heh: Floyd is my dude, but that is some serious bullsh*t to get away from him being accused of the catchweight drama from his haters.

Floyd earned it, Canelo did bring up a catch to team Mayweather, the young boy got caught up on his word thinking he was in a power position dictating shyt to floyd, and lets not act like he a creer MW, its no different from Manny fighting ODH at 147, then Cotto at 145 but no fuss at all...................
 
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