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[OGBobbyJohnson]

being a Zab fan was a frustrating experience

 

[OGBobbyJohnson]

 

[patscorpio]

 

[ba'al]

What the hell these dope dealers in Florida selling these cats? Got these dudes looking like smokey from the PJs. Every time you see Kodak Black he twitching and jittery or slumped like Lubin here.

Omari Jones need to stay away from these nikkas. Start training in Vegas or something.

 

[patscorpio]

What the hell these dope dealers in Florida selling these cats? Got these dudes looking like smokey from the PJs. Every time you see Kodak Black he twitching and jittery or slumped like Lubin here.

Omari Jones need to stay away from these nikkas. Start training in Vegas or something.

so many questions on how lubin found himself in a place like this and why no one could bring him in to sleep off whatever the fukk he consumed

and this nikka is about to be fighting murtazaliev ...at least no one robbed him for his chain

 

[ba'al]

so many questions on how lubin found himself in a place like this and why no one could bring him in to sleep off whatever the fukk he consumed

and this nikka is about to be fighting murtazaliev ...at least no one robbed him for his chain

Murtazaliev beats Lubin especially if this is what breh doing in his freetime.

Yeah man I don't know what's going on with some of these guys.

Lubin strung out. Keyshawn Crashing out not making weight and jumping people. Tank beating his girl like a bongo.

These cats all could do better if they were discipline and focused on their craft.

 

[patscorpio]

Murtazaliev beats Lubin especially if this is what breh doing in his freetime.

Yeah man I don't know what's going on with some of these guys.

Lubin strung out. Keyshawn Crashing out not making weight and jumping people. Tank beating his girl like a bongo.

These cats all could do better if they were discipline and focused on their craft.

this surprised me..i never heard of lubin being a ned the wino ass nikka whereas the other 2 have history of fukkery and undisciplined shyt

what was sad is apparently they said its not a one off..he has passed out there before and knows no one in that building ...thats not a good recipe for future success

 

[ba'al]

this surprised me..i never heard of lubin being a ned the wino ass nikka whereas the other 2 have history of fukkery and undisciplined shyt

what was sad is apparently they said its not a one off..he has passed out there before and knows no one in that building ...thats not a good recipe for future success

Hopefully dude can pull it together. Get himself cleaned up.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

I mean anybody with SNAC is suspicious off the bat .....I think Brian Norman has every right to feel weird about victor conte's involvement with vada. Seeing as he's working with his opponent. That's a huge conflict of interest. And why would you choose to work with a guy who literally went to prison for dealing steroids. A guy who bragged dozens of times about being able to beat any drug test. Conte said his goal is to mimic the effects of ped's but do it by using substances that haven't been banned yet. He said that's the goal of every nutrition coach. To stay ahead of the curve on banned substances and then once the drug testing companies get hip to something, they just replace it with something else that hasn't been banned yet. So it's not necessarily about "being clean", it's about staying under the radar. And since victor conte clearly has connections to vada I'm sure that's very easy for him to do.

Obviously victor conte is a genius in his field. One of the best in the world. Which is why he's been able to revive his career. But the athletes that work him shoulda known they were gonna get some heat for it. It's been brewing for a while, but it seems this haney-norman situation has finally brought it to a boiling point.

 

[Megadeus]

I mean anybody with SNAC is suspicious off the bat .....I think Brian Norman has every right to feel weird about victor conte's involvement with vada. Seeing as he's working with his opponent. That's a huge conflict of interest. And why would you choose to work with a guy who literally went to prison for dealing steroids. A guy who bragged dozens of times about being able to beat any drug test. Conte said his goal is to mimic the effects of ped's but do it by using substances that haven't been banned yet. He said that's the goal of every nutrition coach. To stay ahead of the curve on banned substances and then once the drug testing companies get hip to something, they just replace it with something else that hasn't been banned yet. So it's not necessarily about "being clean", it's about staying under the radar. And since victor conte clearly has connections to vada I'm sure that's very easy for him to do.

Obviously victor conte is a genius in his field. One of the best in the world. Which is why he's been able to revive his career. But the athletes that work him shoulda known they were gonna get some heat for it. It's been brewing for a while, but it seems this haney-norman situation has finally brought it to a boiling point.

Yet Y'all ain't typing paragraphs and essays for Eddy Reynoso and his fighters who ACTUALLY get busted for cheating regularly.

Norman knocking ppl into last year, has never even been VADA tested. Wasn't tested once during camp. They ask him to start testing (the same testing his opponent is on), and he starts juelzing with Ryan Garcia azz talking points.

 

[((ReFleXioN)) EteRNaL]

Yet Y'all ain't typing paragraphs and essays for Eddy Reynoso and his fighters who ACTUALLY get busted for cheating regularly.

Norman knocking ppl into last year, has never even been VADA tested. Wasn't tested once during camp. They ask him to start testing (the same testing his opponent is on), and he starts juelzing with Ryan Garcia azz talking points.

So victor conte being a coach and having ties to the agency handling the testing is ok with you?....Norman already said he would start testing august 1st. Which is damn near 4 months of testing.....haneys throwing a fit because of 2 weeks?.....seems goofy to me. The normal window for vada testing is 8 weeks leading up to a fight. Norman agreed on double that amount. The haneys acting like some ho's in this situation. Did they demand ramirez do 4 months of testing?

 

[patscorpio]

 

[Scottie Drippin]

So victor conte being a coach and having ties to the agency handling the testing is ok with you?....Norman already said he would start testing august 1st. Which is damn near 4 months of testing.....haneys throwing a fit because of 2 weeks?.....seems goofy to me. The normal window for vada testing is 8 weeks leading up to a fight. Norman agreed on double that amount. The haneys acting like some ho's in this situation. Did they demand ramirez do 4 months of testing?

The person who is on everyone's radar and has done his time versus the guy who has fighters fail tests all the time and they just carry on like nothing happens and gets away with it


HMM

 

[Scottie Drippin]

Also - everyone sings VADA's praises as the best when it comes to drug testing but then also wants to act weird about Conte's relationship with them.

VADA is good specifically because he works with them

You've got the godfather of modern doping working with the doping control people instead of against them and it's a coincidence they're the best?

And why does he do all of this? Because his legal business makes him more money than his illegal one ever did AND he doesn't have to worry about going to jail.

 

[Bone Bender]

TKO-Backed Muhammad Ali Bill Aims to Shake Up Boxing World

U.S. Reps. Brian Jack (R-Ga.) and Sharice Davids (D-Kan.) believe they have come up with a way to innovative the boxing industry.

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TKO-Backed Muhammad Ali Bill Aims to Shake Up Boxing World

Two U.S. Congress representatives have introduced legislation that plans to make massive changes to how boxing operates in the country.


The Muhammad Ali American Boxing Revival Act, a new piece of legislation supported by TKO Group Holdings, the parent company to UFC and WWE, was first unveiled this week. A draft of the 21-page document was published Wednesday.


Georgia Republican Brian Jack and Kansas Democrat Sharice Davids introduced the bill, which is also supported by the Association of Boxing Commissions (ABC).


The new act introduces the concept of Unified Boxing Organizations (UBOs), groups which will be allowed to run events, manage their own rankings systems, and award titles “without reliance on a sanctioning organization operating independently.”


The legislation, if passed, would eliminate many of the checks and balances that sanctioning bodies have attempted to impose on boxing promoters for decades.


Currently, sanctioning bodies like the World Boxing Association (WBA) and World Boxing Council (WBC) manage their own ranking systems, distribute championships, and order matchups to be made. Under the newly proposed bill, those competing in UBOs would compete entirely separate from this system.


Boxers would be given the option to compete for a UBO or remain under the current sanctioning body-based system in boxing, per Georgia Rep. Jack.


“The thrust here is we have a system and if you want to stay in that system, you can,” Representative Jack told Sports Illustrated, referring to boxing’s current sanctioning body-focused setup. “We are not touching the Ali Act. Instead, we are adding an additional section to U.S. code that allows for the creation of UBOs, and we’re touching the PBSA [Professional Boxing Safety Act] by amending it.”


Sanctioning bodies would continue to operate, but with boxers and promoters altogether opting out of the system, it could possibly give them less influence than ever before.


The UBO system has parallels to how UFC manages itself inside the MMA ecosystem. MMA promotions have their own titles and rankings, which are not controlled by outside parties, unlike boxing.


No oversight from sanctioning bodies has given UFC more freedom over the years to make the matchups they’d prefer, and control their titles in the way they’d see fit.


While sanctioning bodies in boxing can order matchups to be made, forcing different promoters to work together on a fight to maintain title status, no such requirements have ever been forced on the UFC, allowing them to completely shut down any collaborative opportunities with smaller companies.


Many have argued that these freedoms have helped UFC maintain dominance in the sport’s market.


These changes come amid TKO’s plans to begin promoting boxing events alongside Saudi Arabia’s Turki Alalshikh, beginning later this year. After announcing a formal partnership in March, UFC CEO Dana White spoke about how they plan to implement a proven model into a new sport.


“The model is proven to deliver the fights that fans want to see,” White said in March. “The best will fight the best, and the fighters will continue to move up the rankings and become world champions.”


TKO plans to promote their first-ever card in September, hosting a super-fight between Canelo Alvarez and Terence Crawford at Allegiant Stadium in Las Vegas, Nevada.


Along with the massive overhaul to how boxing is organized across the country, the “Revival Act” will also introduce new rules that would protect fighters.


The new bill would require promoters to pay boxers a minimum of $150 per round, and force them to provide up to $25,000 in health coverage for injuries. While these numbers seem low, they would be raising a limit that, in some places, doesn’t exist at all currently.


Rules regarding pay and health benefits would be in effect on both the UBO and non-UBO side of boxing, Jack said.


“The only overlap, so to speak, is that amending for minimum fighter pay and specified health coverage,” Jack said to SI. “That applies to both models.”


Discussions regarding a potential retooling of the way boxing is governed in the United States have been a focus of TKO for months. In April, a spokesperson for the company told ESPN that they were in “preliminary talks” regarding how the act, which prevented boxing from being governed by any league, could be “expanded.”


Boxing has been regulated by Congress since the early 1950s, although no changes have been made since the Muhammad Ali Boxing Reform Act was introduced in 2000. The newly proposed changes could shift power away from sanctioning bodies in a way that could completely change the landscape of the sport.

I dont know anything about the business of boxing but this article makes it sound like the passing of this bill is a good thing for boxers and the sport. Any of you more knowledgeable agree or is this bill going to screw over boxers?