Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - The Slotification of Liverpool is nearly complete

Low End Derrick

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I’m looking at the whole picture. Ferguson lost two finals to a peak Barca team but dominated domestically.

Ive always called Mourinho overrated l. Struggled in La Liga (Except for one season). Got lucky with Porto. He did well winning the treble with Inter but other than that? He’s a good manager but not as great as he thinks he is.

Pep managed a peak Bayern and Barca. Has an unlimited check book with City... two finals is completely unacceptable when you look at the whole picture. No excuse at all. Zidane won three CLs in a row and 2 La Ligas in under 5 years. :yeshrug:

damn you're a tough critic :pachaha:

The check book argument is crazy to me considering all the other elite managers have unlimited funds too, so in that respect its an even playing field as far as I'm concerned.

And Zidane winning to three in a row is unprecedented. If we were to judge all managers on that, they'd all be considered frauds.

Honestly, I'll add more credence to this:



being the reason Pep hasn't been a finalist recently, than him being a check book manager "fraud":heh:
 

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Considering our current financial crisis, I'd take Chris Smalling at Arsenal :yeshrug:

Also I don't mind the Willian transfer I've always thought he's a good player. A 3 year contract at his age isn't ideal but we clearly aren't in a position to be choosers :ld:
 

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As much as I don't like Mourinho, you can't take away his achievement with Porto. That was major..

Fergie spent a load of money and only 2 European Cups in 30 years says more..yet he's a God to some of you. He couldn't get anywhere when there was the 'foreigner rule' and he had to rotate Giggs and Cantona..
 

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Looking back Pep underachieved at Barca. Dude had Messi and the Spanish dynasty at the peak of their powers and only won 2

This dude gets praised for winning the league with City. Pellegrini did that and with significantly less funds :camby:

What a fukking fraud
 

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After the Monaco debacle, Henry needs to earn his stripes. He goes to Barca and it is another epic failure, he is done coaching in Europe for a long while.:francis:

I agree but nobody is earning stripes anymore, he should take it but if he fails
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I don’t put any stock into this CL with everything that happened during the course of the year. Bundesliga finished their season weeks before everybody else, and Ligue 1 never resumed play after March. These dudes had fresh legs and had more time to be better prepared than the competition.

I know somebody is going to say this is sour grapes, but it’s the truth :yeshrug:
I mean, in theory it makes since, but context wise, Lyon beat and actually outplayed Juve back in the first leg better than they competed against them post lockout. They are also City's boogey team.
Do you seriously see Atalanta beating PSG in a regular tie? Mind you, PSG still beat them with alot of key players missing. And Bayern already dominated Chelsea prelockdown.

Leipzig are the only team left where you can question if rest actually affects their results or not.
 

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I know it's cool to be edgy in this social media era but to make it seem like mourinho is some fraud is shockingly nonsense. despite what he his now and how much he's fell off, he's comfortably a top 10 ever manager.

His greatest achievements:

Real Madrid 11/12: The greatest la liga team in the history of la liga based of records broken. record points. record goals. all during the greateat soccer team of the 2010 decade barcelona. Not even the barcelona team of 08/09, 10/11 or 14/15 can did better in la liga than real 11/12.

Chelsea 04/05: broken various defensive records. most away wins

Porto 03/04: self explanatory. legendary shyt.

Inter milan: miraculously led an aging squad to an Italian treble. 2nd barca leg was legendary, the chelsea game too.

he didn't win the cl with madrid or chelsea but it he who originally assembled their squads that eventually led to them win it.
 

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I know it's cool to be edgy in this social media era but to make it seem like mourinho is some fraud is shockingly nonsense. despite what he his now and how much he's fell off, he's comfortably a top 10 ever manager.

His greatest achievements:

Real Madrid 11/12: The greatest la liga team in the history of la liga based of records broken. record points. record goals. all during the greateat soccer team of the 2010 decade barcelona. Not even the barcelona team of 08/09, 10/11 or 14/15 can did better in la liga than real 11/12.

Chelsea 04/05: broken various defensive records. most away wins

Porto 03/04: self explanatory. legendary shyt.

Inter milan: miraculously led an aging squad to an Italian treble. 2nd barca leg was legendary, the chelsea game too.

he didn't win the cl with madrid or chelsea but it he who originally assembled their squads that eventually led to them win it.
People trying to downplay winning the cl with Porto! :stopitslime: . Chelsea 04/05 only conceded 15 goals in a whole season!:damn: 15 fukking goals conceded, and ppl want to challenge his credentials:childplease:
 
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