Just in case you were wondering I don't either now.
Given my taste in Carly Simon tracks, I think you do
Oh you guys butt buddies
Yall can go do ur thing
I know you still feelin dat 7-1 trashin breh
Essential The Official Football (Soccer) Thread - The Slotification of Liverpool is nearly complete
Oh you guys butt buddies
Yall can go do ur thing
I know you still feelin dat 7-1 trashin breh
Ganso was suppose be the next number 10. His slow style of playmaking is similar to pirlos. He was a beast at santos and then the injuires piled up. Its funny everyone was complaining about dunga coaching the brazilian squad but scolari makes him actually look good
shytting on Fred and Jo is all well and good but who else do they have?
Pato? Luis Fabiano? Leandro Damiao? Wagner Love?
Pato, Lucas Moura, Adriano, Ronaldinho, Coutinho, Robinho... fukk a Scolari
mastermind
Rest In Power Kobe
The other thing with Brazil is that they have ALWAYS had a #9. When I saw that Fred was the #9, I knew they had no chance to win this tournament.
Pato was supposed to be the guy, but he quit the sport at 22.
Pato was supposed to be the guy, but he quit the sport at 22.
Mané Swagincha
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@horse. kills, we need to be together at a time like this homie
That match left me speechless, no words to describe what went wrong, what we should've done, although i will say that we should've started more defensive instead of replacing Bernard for Neymar. If we did we wouldnt have lost so shamefully.
Facebook feeds are full of the "i told you so" "dilma deserved this" etc bullshyt. Self-hating brazilians, shyt is ridiculous, brazilians that live abroad are supporting the country (not the team because of the obvious disgraceful performance), and while those brazilians that live in Brazil are burning flags for who knows what reason?!
I dont want to see Argentina anywhere near the final, and i think if we play them and beat them in the 3rd place game, we'll at least finish the tournament with some dignity.
Btw, I did vote for Germany in the BBB WC Thread.
That match left me speechless, no words to describe what went wrong, what we should've done, although i will say that we should've started more defensive instead of replacing Bernard for Neymar. If we did we wouldnt have lost so shamefully.
Facebook feeds are full of the "i told you so" "dilma deserved this" etc bullshyt. Self-hating brazilians, shyt is ridiculous, brazilians that live abroad are supporting the country (not the team because of the obvious disgraceful performance), and while those brazilians that live in Brazil are burning flags for who knows what reason?!
I dont want to see Argentina anywhere near the final, and i think if we play them and beat them in the 3rd place game, we'll at least finish the tournament with some dignity.
Btw, I did vote for Germany in the BBB WC Thread.
Diddly Drogba
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Let's be real a second because there's nothing suprising about how Germany performed yesterday : they have been consistent since 2006. After their horrendous 2004 Euro, they just decided to do a tabula rasa and built new foundations. What's funny is that they supposedly used the '98 French model to destroy and rebuild their team (dunno how true is that). All the 25 and under players are a direct consequence of the 2004 trauma where they didn't get out of the group stage (but they were with the Dutch and the Czech so). Germany been sexy since then and used their 2006 WC to kick start their project that is finally coming to fruition this year. These brehs know each other for years and are both solid and creative in all 4 lines (including Nooyah).
The top South American teams rely too much on superstars or providential messiahs : Messi for ARG, Neymar for BRA, Suarez for URU, Falcao for COL. What's nice is how Colombia played well as a team without their superstar (I'm convinced they wouldn't have played like that with Falcao on the pitch because Ramès wouldn't have been able to express himself as the true 10 that he is). And that's also why I like Chile which placed teamwork and tactics above the individual. Football nowadays and since 2008 and Spain victory is a team game where individuals can't decide for shyt.
The football played yesterday by Germany was beautiful : passing, movement, space awareness, all top notch. The collective expression was absolutely incredible and that's the result of years and years of under-achievement and detail tweaking but also as of producing world class midfielders. The game has changed and the core of the collective expression is the midfielder as Pep the GAWD hinted since his Barcelona 6 years ago. And in that sense, I could really feel the '09 Guardiolism in Germany yesterday. High defensive line + pressing from the attacking line, midfield coming to the rescue and shutting down second solutions, passing AND verticality when needed, movement everywhere to propose and to disrupt the opp's formation, patience and balance when building, clinical finishing. And I say '09 Barça and not '13 Bayern because Germany played a 4/3/3 which is is far from the typical German 4/2/3/1.
But to me, Brazil had way too much pressure. Too much emotion flowing in that team. I don't know why but the cries, the theatrics, the prayers, the hymns was like some kind of story-telling to mask the simple fact that this squad was simply over-achieving. A little better than average and they relied on physicality and on Neymar's genius to win (and dives). That's why I'm not even sad for them because they fouled Ramès way too much to cry over what happened to Neymar afterwards. I must say, I've never been impressed by Brazil for years now (excepted a few matches in the Confed Cup last year or 2002 final maybe). Can't remember the last time I was 
watching them. Maybe it's because I value the teamwork above the messiahs but still can't remember a Brazil that blew my mind team-wise.
The top South American teams rely too much on superstars or providential messiahs : Messi for ARG, Neymar for BRA, Suarez for URU, Falcao for COL. What's nice is how Colombia played well as a team without their superstar (I'm convinced they wouldn't have played like that with Falcao on the pitch because Ramès wouldn't have been able to express himself as the true 10 that he is). And that's also why I like Chile which placed teamwork and tactics above the individual. Football nowadays and since 2008 and Spain victory is a team game where individuals can't decide for shyt.
The football played yesterday by Germany was beautiful : passing, movement, space awareness, all top notch. The collective expression was absolutely incredible and that's the result of years and years of under-achievement and detail tweaking but also as of producing world class midfielders. The game has changed and the core of the collective expression is the midfielder as Pep the GAWD hinted since his Barcelona 6 years ago. And in that sense, I could really feel the '09 Guardiolism in Germany yesterday. High defensive line + pressing from the attacking line, midfield coming to the rescue and shutting down second solutions, passing AND verticality when needed, movement everywhere to propose and to disrupt the opp's formation, patience and balance when building, clinical finishing. And I say '09 Barça and not '13 Bayern because Germany played a 4/3/3 which is is far from the typical German 4/2/3/1.
But to me, Brazil had way too much pressure. Too much emotion flowing in that team. I don't know why but the cries, the theatrics, the prayers, the hymns was like some kind of story-telling to mask the simple fact that this squad was simply over-achieving. A little better than average and they relied on physicality and on Neymar's genius to win (and dives
). That's why I'm not even sad for them because they fouled Ramès way too much to cry over what happened to Neymar afterwards. I must say, I've never been impressed by Brazil for years now (excepted a few matches in the Confed Cup last year or 2002 final maybe). Can't remember the last time I was watching them. Maybe it's because I value the teamwork above the messiahs but still can't remember a Brazil that blew my mind team-wise.
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Julius Skrrvin
I be winkin' through the scope
Just like the Heat, if you rely on iso plays you're really only as good as your stars happen to beBut to me, Brazil had way too much pressure. Too much emotion flowing in that team. I don't know why but the cries, the theatrics, the prayers, the hymns was like some kind of story-telling to mask the simple fact that this squad was simply over-achieving. A little better than average and they relied on physicality and on Neymar's genius to win (and dives
They were mad homotional too lol
hopefully they bounce backEDIT: This match has its own wiki page now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineirazo
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
I'm the biggest German stan this side of the Rhine thoughOh you guys butt buddies
Yall can go do ur thing
I know you still feelin dat 7-1 trashin breh
Which qualifies my opinion about your opinion in a way that is rather damning to your opinion
They will bounce back because Brazil will always have talent. It will just take time. Some players are traumatized and the squad will need to be modified for more at than 50%. Fred, Hulk, Fernandinho, Marcelo, Maicon and themJust like the Heat, if you rely on iso plays you're really only as good as your stars happen to be
They were mad homotional too lol
EDIT: This match has its own wiki page now
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mineirazo
EDIT : And yeah it was really a Spurs/Heat style of match : team play VS individualities, the former being always superior except when one of the individuality is on fire.
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
Yeah saw that too@Liu Kang Froome is gone
He's not even hurt it seems, he just fukking quit
Wiggins is probably laughing so hard he's gonna give himself a hernia
But he fell twice today because of the rain and he fell yesterday. So I guess, it was maybe a little injured or it's just real bad luck. Is there any animosity between Wiggo and Froome ? I don't know SKY like that.
Scottie Drippin
Should Never Mention Me
BIG time. It was all behind the scenes until Froome put out his book (which btw if you read any bit of it will make you despise him) and basically aired out all of their dirty laundry and tried to play Wiggo like an insecure bum who was nothing without him. Dude tried to low-key ask if he could attack and win the Tour in 2012. And then all the stories coming out of the team basically say Froome was going to bounce unless he was promised team leader at the TdF, and then was given hegemony over the squad taken and didn't want Wiggins with him. Some of the Sky brehs even came at him for attacking Wiggins in 2012 and he didn't want them either.Yeah saw that too
But he fell twice today because of the rain and he fell yesterday. So I guess, it was maybe a little injured or it's just real bad luck. Is there any animosity between Wiggo and Froome ? I don't know SKY like that.
And then this year, Wiggins doesn't ride the Giro, no plans to ride the Vuelta, looked obvious he was going to the Tour but it seems like Froome didn't want him there.
It's just hilarious that Riis came out and said that Sky would regret not bringing Wiggins, and that especially at this stage it would kill them.
And then this weak spirited fukkboy quits before they even hit the cobbles
Seems Wiggo said fukk it after the Tour of California since he knew he wasn't going to the tour and has started focusing on the track for the commonwealth games. Rumors have him bouncing to Garmin or Orica next year.
BIG time. It was all behind the scenes until Froome put out his book (which btw if you read any bit of it will make you despise him) and basically aired out all of their dirty laundry and tried to play Wiggo like an insecure bum who was nothing without him. Dude tried to low-key ask if he could attack and win the Tour in 2012. And then all the stories coming out of the team basically say Froome was going to bounce unless he was promised team leader at the TdF, and then was given hegemony over the squad taken and didn't want Wiggins with him. Some of the Sky brehs even came at him for attacking Wiggins in 2012 and he didn't want them either.
And then this year, Wiggins doesn't ride the Giro, no plans to ride the Vuelta, looked obvious he was going to the Tour but it seems like Froome didn't want him there.
It's just hilarious that Riis came out and said that Sky would regret not bringing Wiggins, and that especially at this stage it would kill them.
And then this weak spirited fukkboy quits before they even hit the cobbles
Seems Wiggo said fukk it after the Tour of California since he knew he wasn't going to the tour and has started focusing on the track for the commonwealth games. Rumors have him bouncing to Garmin or Orica next year.
Well damn, I didn't know about all that. Anyway, I've never had any sympathy for Froome so I will not hide my joy at him retiring
But let's be real, Froome was always better than Wiggo even in 2012 when I remember him attacking without even trying and Wiggo struggling in the mountains. I can understand him being frustrating because his potential was locked because of Wiggo.
